{"id":2894,"date":"2007-07-18T21:01:44","date_gmt":"2007-07-19T04:01:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redeeminggod.com\/?p=16"},"modified":"2015-11-14T11:24:45","modified_gmt":"2015-11-14T19:24:45","slug":"you-be-the-judgenot-really","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redeeminggod.com\/you-be-the-judgenot-really\/","title":{"rendered":"You Be the Judge…(not really!)"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"judge1.jpg\"I indicated in a previous comment<\/a> that I would refrain from debating this gospel<\/a> issue any more because none of us on either side are getting anywhere with the others, and I have better things to do. But in light of what I came across today, I am compelled to begin another post.<\/p>\n

Besides, I guess public “debates” like this are not really for the debaters, but for those who are “on the fence” trying to understand and decide between the two positions. Even still, my follow-up comments to this post will be limited.<\/p>\n

Following the attempts by some of the commenters (from both sides of the debate) to get simple “yes” and “no”\u00a0answers from each other to theological questions,\u00a0I have a REAL LIFE situation to pose to the readers of this blog, and I want you to state with a simple “Yes” or “No” whether you believe the following\u00a0woman is saved or not.<\/p>\n

Certainly, only God knows, but based on how you understand the Bible, the Gospel, how people are justified, and what she says, is the following woman justified,\u00a0Yes or No?<\/strong><\/p>\n

And just so you know, I am not making this woman up. She is a\u00a0REAL woman I encountered today. So give her the benefit of the doubt. If\u00a0she says she really believes something, let’s assume she really does believe it.<\/p>\n

She says she believes that:<\/h2>\n
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  1. Jesus is God… i.e., He is fully divine.<\/li>\n
  2. Jesus is fully human, yet without sin. Also, He was born of a virgin.<\/li>\n
  3. Jesus died on the cross and rose again from the dead three days later.<\/li>\n
  4. She is a sinner and needed Jesus to pay for her sin through His death on the cross so that she could gain His righteousness.<\/li>\n
  5. Simply by faith in Jesus, she has everlasting life which can never be lost.So far, all of us would vote a hearty “YES.” I know I do. But here is where it gets interesting. She also believes that:<\/li>\n
  6. Humans are “divine like Jesus, but to a lesser degree” becuase we sin.<\/li>\n
  7. God is Allah, the same god the Muslims worship.<\/li>\n
  8. The Trinity is fiction… there is only one God and He is not in three person.<\/li>\n
  9. The Qu’ran is inspired by God and is on equal footing with the Bible. Since the two are in conflict on some teachings, neither can be taken literally.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    So, what is the verdict?<\/h2>\n

    And here are the RULES for the comments on this post. YOU MUST, IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT, BEGIN WITH EITHER A “YES” OR A “NO.”<\/strong> Following your one-word answer, you may then explain your answer. Also, in subsequent comments, you do not need to begin those posts with your answer, unless you change you answer.<\/p>\n

    Obviously, none of us are the true judges of a person’s eternal destiny (Isn’t that a relief?), and the Gospel is not even primarily about where one will spend eternity, but this exercise is for the purpose of helping us think through what the Bible says about how to receive eternal life. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don’t go around judging people the way we are doing here on this post.<\/strong> <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

    Obviously, none of us are the judge of someone’s eternal destiny (thank God), but an exercise like this one helps us think through what the Bible says about how to receive eternal life. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":58,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2234],"tags":[1246,1249,1242,1227,1272,28,39],"class_list":{"0":"post-2894","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-redeeming-church","8":"tag-eternal-life","9":"tag-evangelism","10":"tag-gospel","11":"tag-jesus","12":"tag-sin","13":"tag-theology-general","14":"tag-theology-salvation","15":"entry"},"yoast_head":"\nYou Be the Judge...(not really!)<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"I met a woman who believes some strange things. 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