{"id":36729,"date":"2014-09-17T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2014-09-17T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/redeeminggod.com\/?p=36729"},"modified":"2014-10-12T14:56:37","modified_gmt":"2014-10-12T22:56:37","slug":"john-15_4-5-total-inability","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/redeeminggod.com\/john-15_4-5-total-inability\/","title":{"rendered":"John 15:4-5 Does Not Teach Total Inability"},"content":{"rendered":"

The teaching of Jesus in John 15 about the vine and the branches is sometimes used by Calvinists to support the idea of total inability, especially when Jesus talks about how without Him, people can do nothing.<\/p>\n

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing (John 15:4-5).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\"John<\/p>\n

Calvinists focus on the statements in these verses that a \u201cbranch cannot bear fruit of itself\u201d and that without Jesus \u201cyou can do nothing\u201d and claim that these statement prove that people cannot do anything on their own, including believe in Jesus for eternal life.<\/p>\n

[Jesus] used the illustration of a grapevine and its branches. In speaking of the inability to do good works, He said: \u201cJust as the branch is not able by itself to bear fruit\u2014unless it abides in the vine\u2014so neither can you unless you abide in me. \u2026 Apart from me you can do nothing\u201d (John 15:4-5). That\u2019s total inability (Palmer, Five Points<\/em><\/a>, 14-15).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So how can we understand John 15:4-5?<\/h2>\n

First of all, it is important to note that this chapter is part of the \u201cUpper Room Discourse\u201d of John 13\u201315. It takes place in the upper room of a house in Jerusalem where Jesus and His disciples shared their last supper together, which was a Passover meal. After the meal, Jesus washed the feet of His disciples (John 13:1-17) and then proceeded to give them some final words of instruction and encouragement.<\/p>\n

So when Jesus spoke the words which are recorded in John 15:4-5, Jesus was not speaking to people who did not have eternal life, but to those who did. That is, He was speaking to His disciples, to those who were already regenerate.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

Among many other things He told His disciples during the Upper Room Discourse, John 15:1-8 is about how the disciples can be productive and fruitful as followers of Jesus.<\/p>\n

He basically tells His disciples that they must not try to engage in ministry on their own strength, but must abide and remain in Him. They must stay attached to Jesus. They must look to Him for guidance, wisdom, and strength.<\/p>\n

If they try to work in the world under their own power, they will not get very far. They will accomplish nothing.<\/p>\n

The Illustration of the Vine and the Branches<\/h2>\n

The illustration Jesus uses for this lesson is the vine and the branches.<\/p>\n

\"JohnJust as a branch cannot bear any fruit unless it remains attached to the vine, so also, the disciples of Jesus will not be able to accomplish anything for the kingdom of God unless they remain connected to Jesus by looking to Him for guidance and direction.<\/p>\n

So when John 14:4-5 is studied in context, it quickly becomes obvious that these verses have absolutely nothing to do with the inability of unbelievers to do anything.<\/p>\n

Jesus isn\u2019t talking about unbelievers at all!<\/p>\n

Instead, Jesus is talking to believers, and specifically to His disciples, telling them (and all future disciples as well) that if we want to minister faithfully within the kingdom of God as followers of Jesus, they must abide in Jesus.<\/p>\n

That is, they must look to Him for guidance, seek to follow His example, learn to listen to His voice for wisdom, and depend upon Him for strength.<\/p>\n

John 15:4-5 is talking about total inability, but not the total inability of unbelievers.\u00a0 Instead, Jesus is teaching about the total inability of disciples to do anything in the Kingdom of God by their own strength and resources.<\/p>\nIf you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God<\/a>.\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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