A Commentary on the New Testament from the Talmud and Hebraica<\/em><\/a>, 15).<\/p><\/blockquote>\nLightfoot goes on to cite several quotes from the Jewish Talmud which describe this practice being carried out.<\/p>\n
But how are the things in the Lake of Fire Tormented Forever?<\/h2>\n
But John not only writes about things that are contrary to God being cast into the Lake of Fire, he also says that such things will be \u201ctormented day and night forever and ever.\u201d The word for \u201ctorment\u201d (Gk., basaniz\u014d<\/em>) literally means \u201cto rub on a touchstone.\u201d<\/p>\nA touchstone (Gk., basanos<\/em>) was a stone that was used to test the quality of metals, especially gold and silver coins. It was usually a fine-grained dark schist or jasper stone that was used to determine the purity of gold and silver coins by the streak left on the stone when rubbed with the metal. A basanos <\/em>helped discover whether or not a coin was counterfeit.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n
When used in reference to people, the verb form of the word can refer to physical suffering (Matt 8:6; Rev 9:5), hard toil (Mark 6:48), and the pain of childbirth (Rev 12:2). When used of inanimate objects, it has the idea of being buffeted and battered, like a ship in a storm (Matt 14:24). In the Gospels, the demons often ask Jesus if He has come to torment them before the set time (Matt 8:29; Mark 5:7; Luke 8:28).<\/p>\n
But in Revelation, the word only applies to the devil, the beast, and the false prophet (Rev 20:10), which are not \u201cpeople,\u201d but institutions or powers that had been twisted and perverted away from God\u2019s will and design.<\/p>\n
These \u201cthings\u201d will be \u201ctormented\u201d in that, like a counterfeit coin, they will be discarded and thrown out, having no more value, power, or influence in this world. They will be shown to be false and fake forgeries, twisted perversions of what God wanted and desired.<\/p>\n
Death, after all, does have a role in God\u2019s good creation, as does religion (Jas 1:27), and the proper use of judging between right and wrong (accusation is a perversion of judgment). But the perversions of these are done away with in eternity. This is a judgment of ungodly structures and institutions; not primarily a judgment upon people.<\/p>\n
But doesn\u2019t the text say that people are cast into the Lake of Fire?<\/h2>\n
Revelation 20:13-15 says that the sea, and death, and had\u0113s<\/em> gave up the dead that were in them, who are judged at the Great White Throne Judgment, before being cast into the Lake of Fire.<\/p>\nAnd then Revelation 21:8 seems to list the sorts of people who are cast into the Lake of Fire, such as the cowardly, unbelieving, murderers, sexually immoral, and liars. If this judgment is not specifically upon people, then what is happening to the people who are described in these ways?<\/p>\n
Some scholars try to argue that John is referring only to a past historical event here, in which cities and nations were destroyed by fire.<\/p>\n
For example, since Sodom and Gomorrah were characterized by the sorts of behaviors described in Revelation 21:8, and since these cities were destroyed by fire, and since the \u201cruins\u201d of these cities likely lie at the bottom of the Dead Sea (the Lake of Fire), some scholars say that this is what John is referring to in this text.<\/p>\n
But this cannot be the case, for when people died in those historical events, this was their first death. Revelation 20:13-15 says that people are resurrected and brought back to life to face judgment, and are then sent to the Lake of Fire.<\/p>\n
But note that the text does not say that the humans who end up in the Lake of Fire will be tormented by<\/em> the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:15).<\/p>\nUnlike the devil, the beast, and the false prophet, humans are not tormented in<\/em> the Lake of Fire. They are actually sent there to escape <\/em>torment. A careful reading of Revelation shows how this works.<\/p>\nEarlier in Revelation, John wrote that the people who worship the beast and his image will \u201cbe tormented with fire and brimstone \u2026 and the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever\u201d (Rev 14:10-11).<\/p>\n
The word used for \u201ctorment\u201d in Revelation 14:10-11 is the same word used in Revelation 20:10. But the torment that these people experience in Revelation 14:10-11 does not come from the Lake of Fire, because they are not there yet. They do not get sent to the Lake of Fire until after the Great White Throne judgment.<\/p>\n
The torment these people experience comes from \u201cfire and brimstone,\u201d which is what brought the initial destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. The fact that the smoke ascends forever would remind the readers that the smoke of Sodom and Gomorrah was still ascending in the region of the Dead Sea to that very day.<\/p>\n
So is John saying that humans will get tormented after all, but in a different way? No, for John subverts the violent imagery of Revelation 14:10-11 in a subtle way.<\/p>\n
When people think and teach about the torment that people receive in the fires of hell for all eternity, they usually also teach that such people are completely separated from the presence of God. But Revelation 14:10 says that the torment these people receive is \u201cin the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.\u201d<\/p>\n
Isn\u2019t this strange? They are only tormented when they are in the presence of Jesus (the Lamb) and the holy angels (which might represent the spirits of the church; cf. Rev 1:20). But does this mean that our entertainment in heaven will consist of watching people burn and suffer? It cannot be, for this would be less than restful (Rev 14:13).<\/p>\n
Quite to the contrary, it appears that John is saying that as long as these people worship the beast and his image (whatever they may represent), it is torment for them to be in the presence of Jesus and His righteous church.<\/p>\n
How is it torment? Earlier, in Revelation 11:10, John wrote that these same people were tormented by the preaching and presence of the two witnesses.<\/p>\n
This does not mean that the two witnesses were burning people alive with their sermons. It refers instead to the inner conviction one feels when they are presented with something that is contrary to their spirit or nature. Righteous people have this same experience when they are in the presence of wickedness (2 Pet 2:8).<\/p>\n
Therefore, the \u201ctorment\u201d (Gk., basaniz\u014d<\/em>) of humans in Revelation is not physical torture in fire, but refers to the spiritual vexation that unrighteous people experience when they are presented with the truth or when their behavior is challenged (Rev 11:10).<\/p>\nIn Revelation 11:10, the people who experienced this torment, tried to escape it by killing the two witnesses, but John writes in Revelation 14:10 that they will continue to experience the torment of the truth as long as they are in the presence of Jesus and the holy angels.<\/p>\n
Therefore, since Jesus knows that the life of those who worship Him is not compatible with the life of those who worship the beast, and that each group is tormented by the other, Jesus separates them so that neither group is tormented.<\/em><\/p>\nIn Revelation 20:14-15, out of love for the people who do not want to hear the truth, Jesus sends them to be with the beast, the false prophet, death, and had\u0113s <\/em>in the Lake of Fire. They are not sent to be tormented, but to escape the convicting and \u201ctormenting\u201d presence of Jesus and the church.<\/p>\nSo what will their existence be like? What will they do? How will they live?<\/p>\n
What will existence be like for those in the Lake of Fire?<\/h2>\n
The truth is that we do not know. But it won\u2019t be torment or torture. It won\u2019t be burning and screaming in agony for all eternity. Scripture does not say what their existence will be like, or if it can even be called \u201cexistence.\u201d<\/p>\n
It seems that the life in the Lake of Fire (which is not a literal place of burning and flame) is a place where people are allowed to live as they want.<\/p>\n
It is a place where they will be given true human freedom apart from God, which is what many people think they want, but which is actually not freedom; it is slavery. It will likely be similar to life on this present earth, but without physical death.<\/p>\n
While this initially sounds like heaven, such an existence will end up being hell. People who try to live life apart of from God, live life in a way that God never intended it to be lived. This way of living does not build loving relationships, but ruins and destroys them. It is a selfish, hateful, broken way of living.<\/p>\n
And a truly hellish existence is having no way out of this sort of living.<\/p>\n
True hell is an eternal existence in a sin-filled world without the blessed escape through death. <\/strong><\/p>\nCurrently, we have a \u201cway out\u201d through death and resurrection. But if there is no death, there can be no resurrection, and so those who experience the eternal second death (living in the realm of death, but never dying) are living in a hell of their own making.<\/p>\n
Their eternal existence will be a life dominated by the sins mentioned in Revelation 21:8. In eternity, where there is no death to deliver a person from the devastation they have brought into their lives, this ongoing death will simply continue forever and ever.<\/p>\n
C. S. Lewis\u2019 theological fantasy book, (#AmazonAdLink) The Great Divorce<\/a>, <\/em>depicts what this sort of everlasting death might look like. In this life, as we destroy our families, friendships, and health, we draw into ourselves and become more and more separated from others over time.<\/p>\nDeath stops this process of separation so that we can finally see ourselves and others as we really are. Death and resurrection provide reconciliation, so that we can forgive and be forgiven, and begin to live in eternity with the love and grace that God desires.<\/p>\n
But in an eternal existence without God, where physical death is not an option, people will continue to separate themselves until eventually, they cut off all contact from everyone, and live solitary lives of self-centeredness and complete separation.<\/p>\n
For people who were created for community and relationships, this truly is a living hell. But it is a hell constructed by their own choices.<\/p>\n
So what is the Lake of Fire?<\/h2>\n
It is literally the Dead Sea, into which all things are cast that are contrary to the will and ways of God.<\/p>\n
As a symbol, therefore, it refers to an existence without God.<\/p>\n
People who are sent to \u201cthe Lake of Fire\u201d for eternity will not be tortured in flames for all eternity as more than people who live in Salt Lake are covered with salt as long as they live there.<\/p>\n
Those who exist in the Fiery Lake will be given the freedom they think they want, so they can live life as they please, apart from the guidelines and instructions of God.<\/p>\n
This way of living is not really \u201cliving,\u201d however, and such people will ultimately find themselves separated, not only from God, but also from all other people. The Bible calls it the second death (Rev 21:8).<\/p>\n
So the Lake of Fire is not traditional hell where people suffer and burn for eternity. They are not in torment there, but are sent there to escape their torment. While there, they can live according to their sinful desires, which will lead them into an eternal existence and experience of ongoing death.<\/p>\n<\/a>Do you have more questions about hell?<\/strong> Are you afraid of going to hell? Do want to know what the Bible teaches about hell? Take my course \"What is Hell?\" to learn the truth about hell and how to avoid hell.\r\n\r\nThis course costs $297, but when you join the Discipleship group<\/a>, you can to take the entire course for free.\n