I’m working this weekend at a Christian festival/concert called Celebrate Freedom. It’s put on by the Luis Palau association, and includes a couple dozen Christian bands, BMX shows, and lots of fun stuff for families. I was invited to set up a booth in the Family Fun Zone to introduce people to Chinese Juggling Sticks (remember my friend Lance?). I needed some help manning my booth, so invited my friend John to join me. He is slightly better at the sticks than I am. He is also a Buddhist. (I don’t think the two are connected.)
I didn’t tell him much about the festival for two reasons. First, I didn’t know much about it in the first place, and second, I wanted to see how he reacted.
At the end of the night, I asked him what his overall impressions were, and he said, “It’s just a big show…a production. I thought Jesus was about serving and helping other people, not about lights and loud speakers, and trying to act like Britney Spears. I’ve spent many years investigating all religions, and tonight has convinced me further that Christianity has nothing I want.”
Isn’t that the saddest statement you’ve ever heard? And it comes from one Buddhist observing a Christian “evangelistic” festival.
As soon as he showed up, the first thing he said was, “I didn’t realize this was only for Christians. Am I welcome here?” Ironically, this was an “evangelistic” event, but every single person I talked to was already attending a church somewhere, while John, the Buddhist, immediately felt unwelcome. I think it had something to do with all the Christian music blaring everywhere, the Christian symbols on every square inch, and everybody wearing Christian t-shirts.
The booth we had been assigned to was right near the Family Fun Zone Stage, and I wasn’t paying much attention to what was happening on the stage, but John sure was! After about half an hour, he came up to me and said, “So…uh…do most churches do Britney Spears impersonations and sing her songs…except change the words to be about Jesus?” Since I don’t listen to Britney Spears, I didn’t recognize the tune, but I glanced up at the stage and immediately saw what he was referring to. The girls were strutting around the stage in Britney Spears fashion singing a pop song about her love for Jesus. When the song was over, John turned to me and said, “Well, I can never listen to that song again. She just ruined it for me.” (I didn’t realize Buddhists listen to Britney Spears, but I guess some do.)
It was boiling hot out (nearly 100 degrees) and we both went through all our water in about an hour, so John went to find more. We were told there was going to be a hospitality booth for volunteers to get free water and food. The booth did not exist on Friday night, so he had to go buy water. He came back with a 12 oz bottle a few minutes later and wryly stated, “I now know how they can give tickets away for free. This bottle of water was $4.” (I had also noticed on my way in that there were numerous signs all over the place stating that outside coolers were not allowed to be brought in to the festival for “security reasons.” When I learned that they were charging $4 for water, I began to suspect that the “security reasons” were financial security.)
Anyway, about this time, the evangelist lady got up to give her talk to the kids, and so our booth had to shut down so there would be no distractions. Ironically, fifty feet away, another stage (for high school kids) was just getting jumping with a Christian rap group (more on that in a bit). Since our booth was shut down, we got to listen to the evangelistic talk. She began by having all the children repeat after her that they were sinners and God hates sin. She had them all raise hands if they had ever sinned. John got upset. “These are kids!” he said. “They don’t need to be told that God hates them!” (Notice that this is not quite what she said…but I didn’t try to correct him. The inference was definitely there). She went on to talk about the gap of sin that separates us from God and how the cross of Jesus can bridge that gap if we just believe that Jesus died on the cross.
Then there was a prayer time in which the kids were asked to repeat after her a prayer to ask Jesus into their heart. Then those who had repeated the prayer (i.e., all the kids) were invited to go to a counseling booth to fill out a response card and have someone talk to them more about Jesus. John rolled his eyes, but didn’t say anything. I can only imagine what he was thinking, but the whole talk reminded me of brain washing: Get all the kids excited, then get them scared, then tell them to repeat things after you to make it all better.
Now back to the rap group. When they got up on the stage, John thought it was funny that our booth was asked to shut down to avoid distractions, but their rap almost made the evangelist on our stage impossible to hear. But he was more intrigued at the idea of “Christian rap.” When they first started he said, “Is that rap?” I told him it was Christian rap. He looked at me with a bewildered look, and said, “What does gang banging and gun running have to do with the gospel?” I laughed so hard. I explained to him that they are probably not rapping about gang banging and gun running, but about Jesus. He shook his head.
There were many more such incidents during the night, and I hope John comes on Saturday too. It is so refreshing for me to see the Christian production through new eyes.
Have you ever tried so hard to do something for people who are not Christians, only to find out that only Christian come, and those few non-Christians who do come don’t stick around long? Maybe you should step back and take a look at what you are doing and how it might look to someone who has not grown up in the church. It truly is a bewildering spectacle.
Hi Jeremy:
Thanks for sending this.
I don’t think I’d like it much better than your friend.
We attended a FBC where the preacher was pretty good, but the music was so loud and in our opinion bad that we couldn’t worship there.
Hi Jeremy – this is very interesting. I posted a link to it over on Conversation at the Edge
Hi Jeremy,
I really was captivated by your story of the Buddhist and the Christian festival/concert. Christians sure know how to put on a “show” that must make God cringe. Does God cringe? Well, I did as I read through the story.
I am moved by your compassion to reach people who are “different” than us! Actually they’re people for whom Christ died. I wouldn’t be good at what you’re doing, but praise God that you’re doing it. God made you and Wendy special…. laying these dear people on your hearts. It’s going to be interesting to see where He places you in ministry.
Enjoy your bog very much.
Diane
🙂
I had the exact same experience as you did, Jeremy, at the Luis Palau Reno Festival (I posted about it on Helen’s blog). I felt like I got bait and switched…and I helped put the dang thing on! Really fantastic that your friend stuck it out with you and gave you such great input. My friends didn’t have such a good attitude about it all…and i had to apologize to them.
Wow. There are so many things that come to my mind as I read this. Here are just a few of them:
-thanks for hanging with friends, like John, who don’t believe the same way as you do. It’s the way of the Master.
-sometimes we (the Church) don’t really understand how to practically speak to friends apart from God in a language that is both relevant and encouraging. (i think we need the gift of ‘new tongues’- sharing the Gospel like they did in Acts 2: practically, relevantly and in a life changing/culture awakening way)
-i am confident there were some people who were touched by God at the event. (God is cool in that way, in that He can reach anyone, anywhere at anytime…even when we fall short in so many ways with ‘our presentations’)
-Luis Palau is an awesome man of God, and anything he is about doing is all about helping people connect to God through Jesus. I admire his efforts and desire his heart for people
-Celebrate Freedom shouldn’t be held in June (or July for that matter) in Texas. Our weather is too freakin’ hot. (I am sure there is some ‘holiday’ we can manipulate, or I mean honor, in October)
-$4 for water is what we would pay for at any event of that magnitude. it’s not really fair to rail the C.F. people for that and not rail the Rangers, Mavericks, Cowboys, any concert at the AAC, stockyards, college sporting events, movie theaters, etc…. (you get the point). stuff costs money, whether we agree with the prices or not.
-my son Harrison loves your chinese juggling sticks. those things are cool
-maybe next time you guys ought to let your friend John pick what ‘event’ he wants to sell the sticks at (EdgeFest would be kinda cool…but then you wouldn’t get to hear the Rap about Jesus..haha)
Thanks dude for sharing these stories. I was moved…again.
Stephen wrote: $4 for water is what we would pay for at any event of that magnitude. it’s not really fair to rail the C.F. people for that and not rail the Rangers, Mavericks, Cowboys, any concert at the AAC, stockyards, college sporting events, movie theaters, etc…. (you get the point). stuff costs money, whether we agree with the prices or not.
But Stephen, this is not a sports event that people who aren’t Christians chose to come to.
This is a sales pitch they were invited to. Salespeople understand it’s bad etiquette to say to their prospects: “We’re putting on a big expensive sales meeting for you. Please help us pay for it”
Why should prospects pay for the salespeoples’ big expensive meeting? They never asked you to have it. It’s nice of them to come at all, to give you a chance to give your sales pitch. They could have said no. And instead of appreciating that you’re saying “Now you’re here, help us cover the cost by paying us $4 for water that you’ll want since it’s such a hot day”.
The people who decided to have the meeting should bear the cost, not their invitees. In my opinion.
If you’re going to use a secular sales model at least live up to the principles they use and don’t expect prospects to pay you for the privilege of trying to sell you something. (Especially not prospects who are already donating their time, free, to help you host your elaborate sales event)
I’ll have to admit that four-dollar water is sort of passe…old news. I mean, Starbucks has been fleecing folks for a couple years like this with bottled water that purportedly helps build clean water wells for impoverished villages around the world. Sadly, only five cents of each four-dollar bottle goes to that cause. Nobody seems to really care.
I thought Jeremy hit it right on the head:
“(I had also noticed on my way in that there were numerous signs all over the place stating that outside coolers were not allowed to be brought in to the festival for “security reasons.” When I learned that they were charging $4 for water, I began to suspect that the “security reasons” were financial security.)”
Security reasons. That’s funny. Yeah…keep out those dastardly coolers. You sure wouldn’t want anyone sneaking wine or beer or (heaven forbid) a picnic lunch into a Christian fesitival for non-christians.
And Helen, surely as a former BSF leader and conservative evangelical you must know that if just one person gets saved because of that four dollar bottle of water they were forced to buy (because it was as hot as HELL at the event and you can’t bring in your own water)…well, it’s worth it. That’s been our modus operandi as evangelicals for as long as I can remember. Make sure they know they are thirsty…make ’em sweat…then (and only then) offer them the living water. And hey, if you can raise some money while you do it…Brilliant!
(I’m hoping you can feel the cynical sarcasm dripping from that last paragraph).
You’ve been out of the game too long, H. But then BSF really wasn’t into the evangelism game, I guess.
And yes…you pretty much summed up my sarcasmic strategy to win souls with water (in a really hot place, of course). Not bad for an almost atheist.
this is actually jeremy’s wife wendy.
Randy and Helen
I really appreciate all your comments. I just want to add to what Jeremy said as far as the event. This was all advertised as free and so we expected parking to be free as well otherwise in our minds you had to pay to get in, right? I mean every other free show we have taken our kids to in Texas has been that way. Well, it didn’t turn out that way. Before you could even get into this “free” show you were expected to fork over $20 just to park your car. So much for free in my mind. Then if that wasn’t bad enough the majority of this so called entertainment was travelling around from advertising booth to another only to register for a raffle so that you could get swamped in the next few months with tons of Christian literature!
Randy, I take your point – is this the idea: as you hand over the $4 water you say “you think this is your biggest need right now but actually your biggest need is for the LIVING water that Jesus can give you – and it’s FREE!”
And then they get saved and it was all worth it.
BSF was actually very good at keeping costs low. Everyone is a volunteer except the top tier of worldwide management and it’s free to join. When we had monthly lunch fellowships the host was urged to keep things simple, serving only simple (non-alcoholic of course) drinks and no food. People brought their own box lunches so the bar wasn’t set too high for the next host, who might be put off hosting if she had to provide food as well.
So I know nothing of these Christian $4 bottles of water 🙂
Randy, BSF didn’t ‘specialize’ in evangelism but we were encouraged to invite people who weren’t Christians as well as Christians to join BSF. In the hope that as they studied the Bible they’d realize they needed to be Christians and do something about that.
BSF has a ‘how to get saved’ leaflet (since I was saved I didn’t ask for it so I’m not sure what it said). The weekly lectures generally included a mention at the end that “if you don’t know Jesus yet, you can come to know him – if you want more information you can pick up the leaflet after the meeting”. Aka The Invitation. Just like many evangelical sermons include The Invitation near the end. To make sure no-one goes to hell because you didn’t give it that particular week and they got in a car crash two days later. Or whatever. I’ve heard that DL Moody felt very guilty when people died in the Great Chicago Fire a few days after he preached a sermon without The Invitation in it. And after that he always included it. I don’t know whether that’s true but it sounds plausible. Since many conservative evangelicals seem to carry angst about the possibility that people might go to hell because they didn’t do enough to prevent it.
Hi Wendy, thanks for your response. Did they tell you what all the parking (and bottled water) money they were collecting went towards? I expect you would have liked that information!
“What does gang banging and gun running have to do with the gospel?”
Trust me, dude. You do NOT want to know.
To bad the kids were not told that a prayer to Jesus does not give eternal life nor does inviting him into your heart. 🙁 To much of evangelizing children is unbiblical IMO. Thank you for sharing, and it was an eye opener for me as well.
Grace and Truth
Trent
John 20:30-31
Christians will wake-up one day and realize that Christianity is a lie of pagan Rome. There is no salvation today, this world is Satan’s and Christianity proves that fact. Yahweh is the name of the true Messiah and Creator and the whole truth will be taught during the Tribulation Period to every person on earth at that time, which is just a few more years down the road. Christian music that these kids listen to is no different from what the regular world listens to, they just put the pagan name Jesus Christ to it or add God and Lord, pagan names too.