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You can have a Relationship without Fellowship, but it’s not what God wants (1 John 1:6-7)

By Jeremy Myers
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You can have a Relationship without Fellowship, but it’s not what God wants (1 John 1:6-7)
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There are many words in the Bible that often get confused with the concept of “gaining eternal life.” The word “salvation” is the primary word of this sort, but the word “fellowship” is similar. Often, when people read in Scripture about “fellowship with God” they think it is referring to having eternal life or being born again.

But the word fellowship does not refer to gaining eternal life, but to the experience of life within the family of God. This is especially true for the word fellowship.

The word fellowship is a translation of the Greek word koinōnia (2842). “Fellowship” is a good translation, but not if we think of “fellowship” as what typically happens on a Sunday morning in most church buildings.

fellowship 1 John 1 6-7

Your Church is Not Really a Fellowship

Though many churches call themselves a “Fellowship,” the people who gather there are not often good examples of genuine fellowship. The term refers to a friendship, a community, a partnership, of having common interests, desires, goals, directions, and even possessions.

The term “fellowship” is a favorite expression for the close, intimate friendship that exists between a husband and wife, and also for the unity one experiences in the context of brotherly love. So the word fellowship is not about gaining a relationship, but rather about maintaining the friendship, love, and unity within a relationship.

Relationship vs. Fellowship

To understand how this works, it is helpful to think of our relationship and fellowship with God as we think about these with other person.

There is a vast difference between being born into a family, and having a positive experience within that family.

For there to be a positive experience in a family, certain things need to happen. Everybody in the family needs to participate, help out, contribute, love, forgive, and work together as a team.

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It is a lot of work to maintain harmonies and loving fellowship within a family.

Sometimes the friendships that are to naturally exist within a family begin to break down. A son might rebel against his parents. Parents might abuse or neglect their children. Such activities will result in a loss of fellowship, friendship, or “togetherness.”

It is even possible for families to be so broken that people who are related to one another by blood might not see or talk to each other for years at a time. In some cases, family members might spend most of their lives apart, such as when a parent abandons a child or gives them up for adoption, or when a child runs away from home and severs all contact with his or her family.

But note that even in these situations where the families are severely broken, this does not cause the relationship itself to stop.

From a biological, or “blood relative” perspective, children are always related to their parents, and vice versa, even if they break off contact for years at a time or never know each other at all. This is not an ideal situation, nor is it the way God intended families to function, but it is a very common situation for many people.

We could say that in such situations, while the relationship itself continues to exist, there is no fellowship or friendship between the separated family members.

They are related, and nothing can ever erase that relationship, but they do not have fellowship.

Even if someone changes their last name, considers their family members as dead, or gets legally-binding court documents to change their identity, the biological fact of the relationship remains unchanged and unchangeable.

This is exactly how it works with the family of God.

Once a person is born into the family of God, they cannot be unborn. Once a person is in the family of God, they have entered into an unbreakable and unchangeable relationship with God and with every other member of the family.

Even if this person says they hate God, hate Christians, and wants nothing ever to do with God or His people ever again (just as nearly every teenager says or thinks from time to time about their own parents or family), the fact of the relationship remains unchanged and unchangeable.

The relationship is eternal even if the fellowship is not.

But again, this is not God’s ideal, and this is not what God wants or desires for the people who have an eternal and unbreakable relationship with Him.

family fellowshipGod desires both relationship and fellowship with and between His children.

This also is the healthiest and happiest way to live within the family of God. This is why the Bible contains so much teaching about how to have fellowship with God and with one another.

In fact, it is not an exaggeration to say that most of the Bible contains teachings of this sort. Though the word “fellowship” is not always used, the vast majority of Scripture is not about how to join the family of God or be born again into the family, but about how to live within the family of God so that we can have the healthiest and happiest relationships possible with God and with each other.

So when the Bible talks about fellowship with God, it is not telling non-believers how to gain eternal life or join the family of God, but is instead telling believers (people who are already part of the family of God) how to enjoy and fully experience their relationship with God and with other Christians.

One key passage that is helped by this understanding is 1 John 1:6-7.

Fellowship in 1 John 1:6-7

If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

If someone confuses the two concepts of fellowship and relationship with God, then passages like 1 John 1:6-7 will be radically misunderstood.

When people think that 1 John contains “Test of Life” then they read 1 John 1:6-7 as teaching that if we claim to have eternal life and a relationship with God, but we walk in the darkness by sinning, then this proves that we are a lair and do not actually have eternal life.

This is a very dangerous teaching.

In fact, since John goes on to say that we all still sin (1 John 1:8), then if John is saying that the presence of ongoing sin proves that a person really isn’t a Christian, then nobody is a Christian.

Thankfully, a proper understanding of the word fellowship helps clear up any confusion about this text.

John is giving instructions about fellowship with God rather than about gaining or keeping a relationship with God. He says that if we claim we are friends with God, but we walk in sin and darkness, then we’re lying, because God only walks in the light.

walk in the darknessOne cannot walk in the darkness and also be a friend with God.

While a person can be a child of God and walk in the darkness, such a child is living in rebellion and is not abiding with Christ or living in fellowship with God.  If we walk in the darkness, we obviously cannot be walking with God, because God does not walk in the darkness but in the light.

But if we walk in the light, then we will obviously be walking with God—going where God goes and doing what God does, because God walks in the light.

Walking in the light, however, leads to fellowship both with God and one another, as Jesus works to cleanse us from sin and help us live in unity and peace with each other.

This is a much more encouraging and helpful message, as it does not lead to doubt and fear about our standing with God or eternal destiny, but instead helps us move forward in our life with God on the basis of His infinite and undying love for us (1 John 4:7-19).

walk in the light 1 John 1:6-7

Fellowship vs. Relationship

Recognizing the difference between fellowship and a relationship is key to properly understanding several passages from Scripture. To see this difference, it is helpful to consider the difference between these two words in our normal, everyday relationships.

It is quite common for people to have a biological relationship with someone without participating in any fellowship with them at all.

It is not uncommon for some related family members to go days, weeks, months, and even years without eating meals together, celebrating holidays together, or even speaking to each other. In such tragic situations, the relationship still exists, even though fellowship is absent. Even where there has always been a complete lack of fellowship, the relationship remain intact and nothing can dissolve or break it.

It is the same in our relationship with God and other Christians.

All who have believed in Jesus for eternal life are part of the family of God. These relationships exist eternally and cannot be broken or dissolved. But this does not mean that all who belong to the family of God will live and exist in fellowship with God and with each other. For that to happen, we must seek to live in peace and unity with each other, while extending love, grace, and forgiveness toward others.

This is the only way to experience fellowship and friendship within the family of God.

Does this understanding of the difference between relationship and fellowship help you make sense of 1 John 1:6-7? There are other texts in the New Testament that are helped by this as well, which I discuss in my online course, The Gospel Dictionary.

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6 Gospel Questions

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6 Gospel Questions

I am doing a little research for one of the books I am writing (which I hope to put out later this year for FREE to people who subscribe to the newsletter).

Do you want to help? You can…

What is the Gospel?

Answer the Six Gospel Questions Below

I have asked the following six questions to various Bible study groups and discipleship classes over the years. If you are familiar with Evangelism Explosion, you may recognize a couple of the questions….

Note that I have never asked any of these questions to unbelievers, nor do I recommend anyone doing so. I do not think that asking these sorts of questions is a good way to do evangelism… I do, however, think that these sorts of questions are helpful to ask Christians as a way to gain insight into what sorts of ideas and truths people think are essential to the “gospel” and as a way to see what people think about how to gain or keep eternal life. So that is why I am asking them now.

I am not going to judge or condemn your answers…. in fact, your answers are anonymous. I am just curious what sorts of ways these questions get answered.

Oh, and one more disclaimer…. I know that the questions are loaded. They contain terms and ideas that carry lots of religious baggage, and lead you to answer the questions in a certain way. I am aware of this, but it is intentional. So answer the questions as best you can. I look forward to reading your answers.


[The survey is over…Thanks for participating, but the questions are still below. Feel free to weigh in on them in the comment section.]

Gospel Question 1

If you died today, do you know for sure you would go to heaven?

Gospel Question 2

If you died and stood before God and He asked you “Why should I let you into heaven?” What would you say?

Gospel Question 3

If you are certain that you would go to heaven if you died today, is there anything you could do or say in the future which might keep you from going to heaven? If so, what?

Gospel Question 4

Imagine that you walked outside today, and just as we step onto the sidewalk, you see a woman get run over by a car. You run up to her, and are able to tell that she has less than 30 seconds to live. As her life bleeds out of her there on the street, she looks up at you and says, “Tell me how to go to heaven when I die.”

What would you say?

Gospel Question 5

You are talking with a man about how to receive eternal life. You say whatever you think is necessary. He responds positively. Afterwards, he gets in his car. He is very excited about what you shared with him, and cannot wait to get home and tell his wife. He is so excited, he is not paying attention to the road very well. A dog runs out in front of his car. He swerves to miss the dog, and ends up careening of the side of the road, hitting a tree head-on. He dies instantly.

Does he go to heaven?

Gospel Question 6

Okay, now start over with the man getting in his car. He has just accepted your conditions and requirements for being justified and receiving eternal life. He is driving home and is very excited to tell his wife. And on his way home, he tunes all his radio stations to Christian music. Once he gets home, he tells his wife about Jesus, and she is pretty skeptical, but he doesn’t let this stop his love for God.

For several years he reads his Bible every day, prays, and attends church. He leads his neighbor and a few of his coworkers to Jesus in the same way that he was led to Jesus by you.

But one year, the man loses his job. He tries to find another one, but is not able. He falls into a depression. Pretty soon he is arguing with his wife all the time. He doesn’t feel loved and respected any more at home, so he goes out and has an affair. His wife finds out and divorces him. To numb the pain of losing his job and his wife, he turns to alcohol. After a while, alcohol cannot drown his problems either, and he turns to drugs. Somewhere along the way, he gets caught up in something he shouldn’t have, and ends up killing a man.

He is so shaken up about this, that he is not paying attention while driving home. A dog runs out in front of his car. He swerves to miss the dog, and ends up careening of the side of the road, hitting a tree head-on. He dies instantly.

Does he still go to heaven? Why or why not?


Feel free to weigh in below on what you think of these gospel related questions, though if you are going to answer them, please do that using the form above.

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