You may have noticed that I did not get a post out yesterday. Why? Because I am struggling with how to present my view about the violence of God in the Old Testament in a way that makes sense and in a way that does not get me branded as a heretic.
So far, I have only briefly shared this view with two people (my wife Wendy, and Steve Dehner), and the response of both was something like this:
Then there are all of your fantastic comments and emails which have raised other great questions and points which I need to consider…
Sooooooooo…. I am going to approach a presentation of my theory through the back door.
So far, I have presented most of the major theories about how to understand the Violence of God in the Old Testament, and rather than just blurt out why my view is, I am going to lead you through the theological and Scriptural reasoning that I went through to get to my view. In doing this, you will see my own thought pattern, and will also see how I arrived at my proposed theory.
The drawback to this approach is that traveling down this road will take 4-8 posts.
One benefit, however, is that some of you may figure out the view on your own before I ever present it here on this blog (No telling, Steve!). That should be somewhat satisfying for some of you…
So, let’s jump in.
Inspired and Inerrant Scripture
As seen in the previous posts (which you can find listed at the bottom of this post), one common approach to explaining the violence of God in the Old Testament is to deny or modify one of the central and historic convictions of conservative Christianity: that the Bible is the inspired and inerrant Word of God. Some views say that the Bible is full of errors and exaggerations so that the things it describes didn’t really happen, while other views hold that the violent events might have happened as described but God did not command them to do it nor did He inspire the biblical authors to write about these events as they did.
I am extremely uncomfortable with all such approaches to the problem of divine violence.
Of course, the greater problem is when people admit that the Bible is an accurate portrayal of God, and end up assigning monstrous actions and behavior to Him. If God truly did half of what He is portrayed as doing in the Old Testament, then the God of the Old Testament appears to be the most violent, petty, and hateful being in the universe, and people are right to reject Him as the ruler of their lives.
Frankly, if the choice is between a monstrous God and an errant Bible, I would choose an errant Bible every time.
But thankfully, we need not choose.
One of my core convictions which I wanted to hold to at almost any cost, is that the Bible is the inspired and inerrant Word of God. I do, of course, leave room for the use of literary techniques such as metaphor, hyperbole, and poetic imagery, and also allow for minor errors to have crept in through the process of copying manuscripts by hand over the centuries.
But I believe that the Bible says what it says because God wanted it to say it, and that it is a reliable, accurate, and trustworthy account of what it says.
Furthermore, I believe that the traditional and conservative views about biblical authorship are essentially correct. I believe that Moses wrote the vast majority of the Pentateuch (For example, Moses clearly did not write most of Deuteronomy 34). I believe that the events described in Joshua and Judges happened within history as described, and at the period of time these books claim. The same holds true for the rest of the Old Testament (and the entire Bible), including the descriptions of Israelite violence by the command of God.
This is pretty much what I have always believed about the Bible, it is what I have been taught at Bible College and Seminary, it is what I preached and taught as a pastor, and is what I have taught on this blog (for the most part).
In seeking a solution to the problem of divine violence in the Old Testament, I was quite hesitant to accept any view which called into question the traditional understandings of the inspiration or inerrancy of Scripture. I wanted to hold on to this belief as one of my core convictions.
Tomorrow we will consider a second core conviction which initially seems to be at odds with this first core conviction, but which ultimately led to the view I will propose later.
Until then, where are you at on your beliefs about inspiration and inerrancy? I’d be curious to know!How can a God who says "Love your enemies" (Matthew 5:44) be the same God who instructs His people in the Old Testament to kill their enemies?
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You set yourself an almost impossible task of explaining the Old Testament, Jeremy.
That is what Jesus did, and in almost every case his disciples and others didn’t understand until later.
Jeremy Myers says
You are right. It is nearly impossible. But Jesus did it in Himself, and I hope that as we all keep our eyes fixed on Jesus, the OT will come into focus.
The parts that are in focus were explained by Jesus, Jeremy. He was teaching ‘doctors’ in the temple at 12 years old.
The rest remains a mystery.
Thank you. I never really studied this until today. I found it overwhelming and frightening and ugly at first. There is a lot of studying to do. At my Bible studies I never heard about this. I find it hard to believe that they were doing much violence in God’s time and when you explained about the devil blaming God I felt some release. My stomach is up in my mouth seeing this. Getting ready for Xmas I don’t have the time to concentrate on it. Tom
Samuel, Malachi, and James say that God is “immutable” (does not change). By believing that the God of the OT is angry, wrathful, jealous, vindictive, etc etc and then kind, loving, forgiving, etc etc, we contradict the veracity of the inerrant and inspired Bible! God in His character is Perfect! God makes no mistake. Is the God of the OT different than the God of the NT? No!
The figure of speech that is applied to God in giving God human emotions along with human parts is Anthropopatheia and Anthropomorphic language. God “condescends” to human understanding, weakness, and ignorance.
Now that being said, God and Israel made a covenant and Israel agreed to it, if they disobeyed and reneged on this Covenant, they would suffer the consequences! God had to “withdraw” His protection and allow them to be conquered by others, if not, then God would be a liar for not following up on the consequences for His people disobeying the Covenant. For they would have said, “Wow! We have disobeyed and turned our backs on the Covenant we made with God and nothing happens to us.”
The problem is Not Ever going to be GOD! The problem is always finite human beings who are born outside the Garden of Eden with a defaced and corrupt Image of God, and with the removal of the Likeness of God!