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The Gaping Chasm of Suicide

By Jeremy Myers
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The Gaping Chasm of Suicide

The following is something I wrote in July of 2008 while in the midst of a time of deep despair and discouragement. I had not read this again until last week, and it was surreal for me to remember what I thought and felt back then.

I never posted it because I was scared by what I wrote. Looking back now, I am also ashamed of how I reacted. What happened to me is nowhere near as bad as what happens to some people every single day, and they handle their trials way better than I did. But I am posting it now because I hope it can encourage others who might be facing something similar. I apologize for the length.

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No Christian has really lived until they have stared into the glowing eyes of atheism, staggered along the gaping chasm of suicide, and camped near the smoking gates of hell. But thatโ€™s where Iโ€™ve been for about six months.

And Iโ€™m not on a sightseeing tour. Iโ€™m not taking pictures. Iโ€™m not buying trinkets to take home and put on my bookshelf and show off to my Christian friends. No, Iโ€™m here for life.

Even if I do find my way back out of this pit, and get back home with some souvenirs, I donโ€™t have many Christian friends left to show them to. When I began this descent into depression, despair, and doubt, those that didn’t shoot at me while I fell, simply abandoned me. No calls. No e-mails. No letters. Even when I cried out for help, the most frequent response (if I got any response at all) was, โ€œIโ€™ll be praying for you.โ€

At first, I was bitter. But then I realized I brought this all on myself. You see, I grew up in a Christian home. My father was a pastor of one of the largest churches in town. I attended a Christian school, then went to a Christian college. After college, I spent five years as a pastor before enrolling in a leading Christian seminary to get a four-year Masterโ€™s degree in Bible and Theology. While in seminary, I worked as an editor in a Christian non-profit publishing and conference organization. As I neared graduation, I put together my resume so that I could get back into pastoral ministry. The placement counselor of the seminary told me that he had never seen a resume like mine, and that I could basically write my own ticket to nearly any church on their list.

Thatโ€™s when my world began to fall apart. As I began to look at these churches that might want to hire me, I realized that I didn’t want to pastor a single one of them. They all had nice buildings, and lots of smiling, happy people with thick wallets. If I got a job with one of these churches, I and my family would have led comfortable, safe, and secure lives. I probably could have risen in the ranks of church hierarchy, written a few books, and been asked to speak at conferences.

But as I looked at these churches, I began to get quite alarmed. Despite all their talk about missions and evangelism, not a single one of the churches I was looking at were doing much to reach, love, and serve those in their own communities that needed Jesus most. Oh sure, they courted the businessmen, the lawyers, and the doctors, and mail checks to the missionaries in Nigeria, and send a team to build a medical clinic in Bolivia. They had groups that served down at the local soup kitchen, and a few radical souls who hand out tracts on the street corners downtown. But as I looked around these churches, there were no poor, no homeless, no prostitutes, no atheists, no drug addicts. There definitely weren’t any democrats. Apparently, such people could be prayed for, but were not allowed to actually attend church.

Thatโ€™s when I realized that I no longer wanted to be a pastor in the type of church that would want to hire someone like me.

So I began to change how I prayed. And that was the biggest mistake of my life.

I prayed that God would help me love people that most churches loved to hate. Democrats, pornographers, and abortion doctors. I prayed that God would help me reach people that most Christians saw as unreachable. Homosexuals, prostitutes, strippers, and atheists. I prayed that God would help me understand what people are going through when they turn to drugs, alcohol, suicide, and crime as a way to solve or forget their problems.

In hindsight, I wish these were prayers God had said โ€œNoโ€ to.

Jesus, out of his great love for us, came to earth to become like us and dwell among us. I guess God thought that if I wanted to reach people that many Christiansย weren’tย reaching, I needed to become like them and experience what they were experiencing. I suspected that some of this might happen, and so tried to enter their world. But Iย didn’tย understand how deep and how fast the floor would fall out from under me.

As I was praying, I began making attempts to enter the world of the people I wanted to love. Not knowing where to begin, I read books, blogs, and articles that challenged the way I had been taught. I saw that much of what I believed depended upon a very narrow and relatively recent tradition. Thatย doesn’tย make this tradition automatically wrong, but it did require me to honestly delve into alternative explanations.

Tragically, I made the mistake of letting some of my Christian friends know what I was studying, and what questions I was pursuing. I predicted that a few of the more fundamental types would call me a heretic for asking such questions, but I was not prepared for what happened. With the exception of two or three friends (who were having the same questions I was), all my friends banded together, tied me up, and through me off the train. I overheard one friend telling another that for the sake of the ministry, they needed to “throw me under the bus.” I kid you not.

A few, going well beyond calling me a heretic, labeled me an apostate, and consigned me to hell unless I repented and returned to their definition of orthodoxy. All of this was done under the guise of Christian love and concern. Apparently, for someone in my situation, the most loving thing to do was โ€œhand me over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.โ€

Please note that at that point, I had not yet changed any of my beliefs. I just had questions. I simply wanted to study alternative explanations and different views. I wanted to truly understand these views, and why people believed them. I was told when I got fired from my ministry job that it was okay to study different views if the only reason for studying such views was to disprove them. I consider such an approach to be intellectual suicide. I believe that the truth can stand up to any and all questions and that the only way truth can be known is if we genuinely consider the arguments and ideas that challenge our beliefs. If our beliefs survive such challenges, then we come out stronger for facing the questions. If our beliefs do not survive, and we change our beliefs, then we have actually come to free ourselves from error. When viewed this way, the only negative consequences to really questioning what you believe is the potential loss of friends and jobs, and with both, a sense of worth and personal identity.

So what happens when a Christian loses their job and friends all in one week? I canโ€™t speak for others, but for me, the initial shock evolved into fear, anger, depression, despair, bitterness, resentment, and hurt. Stress set in, and health problems arose in both myself and my wife. Though my wife and I dearly loved each other, we started arguing more. Bills piled up. Bad decisions got made.

Those few Christians still around advised me to just โ€œLet go and let Godโ€ and remember that โ€œThe joy of the Lord is your strength.โ€ When I asked what that meant in light of my circumstances, they said they would pray that โ€œGod will provide for my needsโ€ while they went out to dinner and a movie with friends, bought new cars, and embarked on vacations around the world.

At church, the songs seemed almost silly, the preaching was empty, and the handshakes were cold. I became scared to pray because every time I prayed for something, the exact opposite seemed to happen. God wasn’t just saying “No” to my prayers; when I prayed for a fish, He gave me a snake. At least, that is the way it seemed.

I was frantically looking for a job, but because I was now branded as a heretic, Iย couldn’tย get back into ministry. My friends made sure of that. I tried for secular jobs, but since my entire life and training was in ministry, no place wanted to hire someone with no experience. Since I had some office management experience, I applied for some of those positions, but was told I needed experience in the medical, legal, retail, or restaurant field to manage in these areas. They said that if I wanted to come back later, I could apply for a cash register position, or driving a forklift. Even then, I was told I probablyย wouldn’tย get these jobs because of all the other applicants who had actual experience in these entry-level positions.

I began to drink, just so I could โ€œtake the edge offโ€ and fall asleep at night. I had a pretty good life insurance policy (which Iย couldn’tย pay for any more), and seriously considered how I could kill myself while making it look like an accident so that I could provide for my wife and three children. I stopped attending church, reading my Bible, and praying. I felt that if this is what God does to a person who is trying to serve and follow Him, I wanted none of it. Iโ€™d rather be a non-Christian who looks out for himself and is able to feed his family, have a nice house, and go on fancy vacations.

It was just today that I realized that if God is really behind all of this, he is probably just answering my prayer. Itโ€™s like He said to me today, โ€œRemember that prayer you prayed before all this began to happen? That prayer about learning to love those that most Christians hate, reach those that many saw as unreachable, and understand what people are going through when they reject God and turn to drugs, alcohol, and crime? Iโ€™m just doing what you asked. You canโ€™t love those who are hated by Christians unless you understand what itโ€™s like to be hated. You canโ€™t reach the unreachable unless you are beyond reach. You canโ€™t understand what people go through unless you go through a small fraction of it yourself. Iโ€™m just answering your prayer.โ€

And thatโ€™s when it hit me. Though Iโ€™m staring into the glowing eyes of atheism, staggering along the gaping chasm of suicide, and camped near the smoking gates of hell, there are millions upon millions of people who have been here a lot longer than I. Iโ€™m a newcomer. (By the wayโ€ฆJesus is here too. I saw him last week when a strip club owner reached out with love to a bunch of hurting girls and responded with love to a horde of angry Christians. But thatโ€™s another story.)

I haveย realized that however painful it is to be here, I canโ€™t understand, love, or reach the people around me if I leave. At the same time, I canโ€™t survive here unless they help me learn how. Iโ€™m not sure yet what that will look like, but Iโ€™m excited to find out.

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This post is part of the
March Synchroblog on Wilderness Experiences

You can also read more about this time in my life at
Oh Me of Little Faith

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Here is the list of the other synchroblog participants.
There are some great stories here, so go read them all!

  • Patrick (at Dual Ravens) was prolific with a four part series called โ€œMusingsโ€ and they can be found here:ย Part One,ย Part Two,ย Part Three andย Part Four
  • Katherine Gunn at A Voice in the Desert writesย What is Wilderness?
  • Wendy McCaig giving us a View from the Bridge bringsย A Voice Calling in the Wilderness
  • EmmaNadine who describes Life By List wonders aboutย Life in the Wilderness
  • Tammy Carter of Blessing the Beloved is taking a rest as sheย Puts down the axe
  • Kathy Escobar shares the carnival in my head and writes aboutย belonging
  • Steve Hayes of Methodius describesย Anatomy of exile
  • Marta Layton at Martaโ€™s Mathoms writesย On Sabbaths, Mountain-Topsโ€ฆ and Brothersโ€™ Keepers
  • Liz Dyer at Grace Rules discoversย Beauty In The Wilderness

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How to Plant a Church in Three Minutes

By Jeremy Myers
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How to Plant a Church in Three Minutes

Want to plant a church? Forget the books, seminars, and conferences. Just watch this video and follow the simple instructions. Thanks to Steve Addison for posting this.

To see a similar video about How to Invite Someone to Your Church, see the post atย GraceGround.com.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

What Could the Church do with $18.7 Billion?

By Jeremy Myers
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What Could the Church do with $18.7 Billion?

If you ever need statistics and facts on churches, church attendance, megachurches, and numbers of people who attend church in the United States, I posted someย demographic sites here.ย One of the sites was theย Hartford Institute for Religion Research. Here are some of the statistics I found:

-There are about 300,000 protestant churches in the US.
-The median church size is 75 people (the average is 186).
-50% of people who attend church attend the largest 10% of churches (350 people or more).
-There are 600,000 clergy members in the US.
-The average pastoral salary is $31,234. But if we only look at pastors in churches of more than 1000 people, the average salary is $81,923.

There are a lot of other statistics there as well.

Just for fun, do the math on these last two statistics. If the average salary for 600,000 clergy is $31,234, then this means that every year, $18.7 billion goes toward pastoral salaries in the United States.

I’m not necessarily saying this should happen, and I believe the worker is worthy of his wages…but I wonder what the church could do with $18.7 billion if we were not paying our pastors?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Theology of the Church

A Million Miles with Donald Miller

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A Million Miles with Donald Miller

In one of my posts of infamy, I mentioned that I knew my thinking was changing because I started agreeing with authors I used to despise. Donald Miller was one of those authors. He is most known for Blue Like Jazz, but one of his other great books, A Million Miles in a Thousand Years, is also a great read.

One of the things I am also looking forward to is Blue Like Jazz: the Movie. It is directed by my favorite musician of all time – Steve Taylor. But I will have to talk about this in a later post.

For now, check out this video from Donald Miller about choosing which story you will live, rather than just letting your life story happen to you. It is a principle I first heard from him about four years ago, and am trying to live it out in my own life. If what he says in the video tugs at you, you can read more about it in his book.

What story are you telling? from Rhetorik Creative on Vimeo.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Books I'm Reading, Discipleship

Lonely? You’re not Alone

By Jeremy Myers
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Lonely? You’re not Alone

Henri Nouwen worked among AIDS victims in San Francisco. He writes of young men who are dying, many of them banished by their own families, forced to hustle on the street. Many of them have had hundreds of relationships. But they are dying. Cast off from society. Rejected.

Nouwen says that all they want is to be loved. They want a safe place. A safe relationship. A place to call home. Someone to accept them. Someone to love them.

Henri Nouwen has also worked among orphanages in Peru. Here is what he writes:

How little do we really know the power of physical touch. Those boys and girls only wanted one thing: to be touched, hugged, stroked, and caressed. Probably most adults have the same needs but no longer have the innocence and unself-consciousness to express them. Sometimes I see humanity as a sea of people starving for affection, tenderness, care, love, acceptance, forgiveness and gentleness. Everyone seems to cry, ‘Please love me.’

Lonely? Welcome to the Crowd
I don’t know about you, but that is my own cry. I believe that is the cry of my wife, my children, and pretty much every person I have ever met. Also, I think nobody is more lonely than the person who gets into a relationship to quench their need for love, only to find out that they are still just as lonely.ย It is not really comforting to realize this, but we are all lonely together. We all feel lonely, but knowing this doesn’t help us feel any less lonely.

So I believe that one goal in life should be to find someone to be lonely with; to find someone who can hopefully take the edge off the loneliness. Marriage can be good for this, and so can children and friends. But some of the loneliest people I know are married with kids, and have lots of friends.

As for myself, I am married to a wonderful woman, and have three beautiful children. But they cannot always be there for me. Even when they are, they do not always know everything I am thinking or feeling. And so sometimes I feel separated from them. I feel lonely.

Lonely? You Don’t Have to Be
Call me crazy, sappy, or just plain weird, but one person I have found who is always there for me, who listens when I yell and scream, who doesn’t judge when I fail, and who loves me no matter what, is Jesus. I try to converse with him throughout the day, talking to him as I drive to work, as I face problems, encounter joys, eat my food, or whatever.

Back in a period when I experienced great doubt and fear, I yelled at Jesus almost every day. I said some very bad things to him. Looking back now, I am so thankful I yelled at him instead of my wife and children. I think they would have forgiven me, but it’s possible I would have damaged them forever. But not Jesus. He took it all in. Suffered through it with me. He never left. He never said, “That’s it! I’m outta here!” Why? Because he understood.

A French proverb says, “To understand all is to forgive all.” Jesus understands, and so he forgives all, which means he will never leave us nor forsake us. If we have Jesus, we will never be alone. We can converse him with him, talk with him, and walk with him.

I think this is what Brother Lawrence described in his classic, Practicing the Presence of God. Jesus is not somewhere out there, sitting on a throne, listening to our prayers from the other side of the universe. No, I believe that he is right here, with us and by us. ย Though we cannot see him or feel him, we can interact with him as with any other human. He knows my deepest secrets and blackest sins. He sees all, knows all, and forgives all.

I am fully known by him, and yet he loves me still. That is why he helps remove my loneliness when no one else can.

What is your experience with Jesus? Is it something like this, or do you think I am just crazy?

This post was based (loosely) on the Grace Commentary for Luke 5:12-16.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, Theology of Jesus

Is it Church or just a Bible Study?

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Is it Church or just a Bible Study?

I posted another article over at GraceGround.com today called, “Bible Study or Church?” Once criticism people sometimes have of house churches is that they are nothing more than a Bible Study.

I take a stab at answering this question in that article. Head on over there to weigh in on the subject.

By the way, if you already have a blog, and want to start another blog at GraceGround.com just so you can repost some old articles of yours or provide “incoming links” to your blog, feel free. The only thing I ask in return is that you put GraceGround.com on your Blogroll.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, Theology of the Church

No More Booty in the Bible

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No More Booty in the Bible

The next edition of the New American Bible, the preferred translation for millions of Catholics, is removing the booty from the Bible.

And just when people were beginning to think the Bible was fun to read…

Actually, all they are doing is updating their translation to more modern wording. According to NPRs News blog, here are some of the swaps included in the new Bible:

  • “booty” is now “spoils of war” โ€” for presumably obvious reasons.
  • “virgin” becomes “young woman” โ€” especially where the original uses the Hebrew word “almah.”
  • “holocaust” will become “burnt offerings” – scholars say that was closer to the original meaning, before “holocaust” came to be identified with the genocide of World War II.
  • “cereal”โ€” now co-opted by General Mills and Post, becomes “grain.”

Ironically, a woman named “Mary” reported that “virgin” in Isaiah 7:14 should no longer be translated as “virgin” but as “young woman.” Mary Sperry, who oversees Bible licensing for the bishops, told Reuters thatย “The bishops and the Bible are not signaling any sort of change in the doctrine of the virgin birth of Jesus. None whatsoever.”

So I guess Mary is still a virgin. There was no midnight booty call.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

The Pastor’s Guide to Church Growth

By Jeremy Myers
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The Pastor’s Guide to Church Growth

A while back, I picked up a free VHS tape called “The Pastor’s Guide to Church Growth.” I still own a VCR, and so was able to watch it, not becuase I was all that interested in what was on the tape, but because I figured that if it was on a VHS tape, it must be about 10-20 years old, and I wanted to see what they were saying about church growth back then.

As it turns out, the tape was nothing more than an informercial for Kingdom Tapes. So I know the guy had an agenda, but still, what he said on the tape was amazing. The whole point of the tape was to tell pastors that if they wanted their church to grow, all they had to do was start a tapeย ministry!

According to him, if you can have a dozen duplicating machines in the back of your church, and a few volunteers to duplicate and label the tapes, then you can have the tapes ready for sale (or to give away) as the people leave the church service. This is when they are most likely to buy the tapes, not only for themselves, but also get one or two for a friend or neighbor.

Can’t you just hear it? “Pastor, what a great sermon today!” “Thanks.ย If you want to hear it again, it’s on sale at the tape table for only $3.”

This,ย according to the guyย from Kingdom tapes,ย will lead to more people coming to your church.

First of all, I seriously doubt that there was ever a time in church history that a tape ministry contributed to any kind of substantial church growth. But even if there was, those days are long gone. If someone were to hand me a cassette tape and say, “After listenng to this, you’ll want to come to our church!” I would stay as far away as possible.

A church that still does a “tape ministry” only proves that they are operating about ten years behind the technology. Even CD’s are almost too archaic now. The current techonology requires MP3 Podcasting, but even that is almost totally unwieldy since audio files cannot be properly tagged or searched. (If somebody could figure out a way to coupleย search softwareย with voice recognition software, they would become instantly rich.)

But the point in all this is that most church growth gimicks are nothing more than gimicks…someone trying to sell you something: Their book. Their consulting services. Their construction company. Their tapes. And none of it “works.” If we want trueย church growth, we’ve got to startย by focusing on the church, which is the people that make up the church, and investing our time and energy with them.

So you want to grow your church?ย Years ago, when I began pastoral ministry, my father said: “Jeremy, there are three keys to pastoral ministry: Love God, Love His Word, and Love His people.” I still think that is good, timeless advice.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

Don't Build a Church Building

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Don't Build a Church Building

Want to know what kind of church facilities people prefer most? Back in 2008, Dave Ferguson posted the results of a study done by the Cornerstone Knowledge Network. Here is what he reported:

Note: The answers do not equal 100% because I only listed the top answers and the survey allowed the respondents to give multiple answers.

  • In what setting other than a home would you be most likely to interact with a friend?
    • 47% – “Sit-down” restaurant
    • 15% – Bar or night club
    • 13% – Coffee shop
  • In what settings do you feel close to God?
    • 41% – “no where”
    • 40% – References to nature
    • 14% – Anywhere, everywhere
    • 10% – Church, cathedral, synagogue
  • If you were to design and build a church building, what adjectives would best describe it?
    • 43% – Open
    • 38% – Beautiful
    • 36% – Bright
    • 35% – Simple
    • 24% – Reverent

I think that Dave Ferguson was trying to provide guidance on what kind of church buildings we should construct, but I think that if we begin with the question, “Should we construct a building?” rather than the question “What kind of building should we construct?” the survey results indicate that church buildings might only get in the way of people connecting with God and each other.

What do you think?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Close Your Church for Good, Discipleship, Theology of the Church

The Pitfalls of Pastoral Ministry

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The Pitfalls of Pastoral Ministry

I was going through my “Post Drafts” this morning (I have over 100 of them), and found an old draft from 2007. It was a list by Gary Lamb about Ten Things he wished he had known when he started out in church planting.

I decided to see if the post was still there. It wasn’t. So I searched Gary’s site, and found out that in 2009, he had an extramarital affair.

I am not judging or condemning him, but it did make me wonder: Would Gary’s list of Ten Things still be the same?

Note: If you want to read the list, I posted it over at GraceGround.com.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

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