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This episode of the One Verse Podcast concerns the question about whether or not animals go to heaven.
Do you believe that “All Dogs Go to Heaven”? To be honest, I don’t know if they do or they don’t. I am nearly certain that there will be animals in the eternal state, but I do not know if God will bring Fido or Fluffy to join you there.
Some people use passages like Genesis 1:20-23 as an argument for the idea that animals have souls, and therefore, animals will go to heaven.
Genesis 1 does in fact teach that animals have souls. Even fish, as we see in Genesis 1:20-23, have a soul. So does this mean that if Nemo had been flushed down the toilet, he would have found himself in paradise? This is one of the things we look at in this study of Genesis 1:20-23.
The Text of Genesis 1:20-23
Genesis 1:20-23. Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens.” So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”
So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
In this discussion of Genesis 1:20-23 we look at:
- Why “creatures” in Genesis 1:20 is better translated as “swarmers.”
- Why many English translations leave out the word nephesh in Genesis 1:20.
- Why a belief that dogs go to heaven leads to a belief in universalism.
- Nephesh does not mean “soul” but “life.”
- What it means for birds to fly across the face of the firmament.
- The connection between blessings and obedience.
Resources:
- Logos Bible Software
- Eight Reasons Genesis 1 Does Not Teach Creationism – Spencer Boersma
- Study what it means to save the soul from death: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5
- Hamilton, Genesis 1–17 – Amazon or CBD
- Hasel Article on Genesis 1
- Hertz, The Pentateuch – Amazon
- Kidner, Genesis, Amazon or CBD
- Waltke, Genesis, Amazon or CBD
- Wenham, Genesis – Amazon or CBD
- Subscribe and Leave a Review on iTunes
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Comment on Spencer Boersma’s resource – Had to smh a number of times as I read his piece. Many of his frustrations and critiques of the ‘creationists,’ I find Spencer himself engaging in in order to ‘defeat’ them. He seems almost desperate to read his own presuppositions, constructs, and assumptions into the text. Appealing to ridicule, taking lack of evidence as evidence of lack, ignoring the concept of semantic range of words, etc. He reminds me of Kenneth Ham, just on the opposite side of the fence.
Spencer wrote: “When the earth totters, with all its inhabitants, it is I who keep its pillars steady” says God in Ps. 75:3. One cannot escape that the ancient people thought of the world like a building, with a dome over top and pillars below (cf. Ps. 104:5).
Is Spencer speaking ex-cathedra here? Look, we can respect Spencer’s position and understand where he’s coming from(even though he doesn’t return such civility to people that disagree with him), but just like Kenneth Ham and the ICR he’s lifting up his interpretation as the only valid one. In the Hebrew, the word translated ‘earth’ is ‘eretz’ and is also commonly translated ‘land.’ It isn’t necessarily the spherical planet. The bible often refers to the Eretz of Israel, so do we assume then that the ancient Israelites thought they were on their own separate planet? Detached from the planet of the Canaanites or the Phoenicians?
But even if we translate eretz as ‘earth’ here instead of land, what about observational language? Or figures of speech? Are we really 100% certain there wasn’t an idiom or figure of speech being used here? When I say the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, nobody chuckles and says, ‘Ummm Dave, the sun doesn’t orbit the earth.’ Or if I say, ‘I’d travel to the ends of the earth to get one of those.’ Friends don’t reply, ‘Dave, don’t you know that the earth is spherical? It’s not flat. You really need to take a science class to correct your erroneous cosmology.’
Looking at Spencer’s piece, he seemed to be protecting a sacred cow more than anything else.
Regarding Spencer Boersma’s post which you list under “Resources” — I found his article to be spirited, engaging, and worthy of a considered response from a creationist. (I concur with much of what Dave says in his Nov. 9 comment, but I think a lot more can be said.)
My response/critique article can be read here: http://www.creationbc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=187&Itemid=62
It should be noted that subsequent to the initial appearance of my response article, Mr. Boersma made various changes to his post. I will be modifying my article shortly to take those changes into account.
Thanks! I will check it out. Well done on responding through an online setting like your website.
OK, I have now addressed the changes Mr. Boersma made to his article on Genesis 1. I’ve just added a “Postscript” at the end of my critique, which appears here: http://www.creationbc.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=187&Itemid=62