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Did Paul wish that he could go to hell in Romans 9:3?

By Jeremy Myers
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Did Paul wish that he could go to hell in Romans 9:3?
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In Romans 9:3, Paul writes, “For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my countrymen according to the flesh.”

Is Paul saying that he wished he could go to hell if it would mean that his Jewish brethren would believe in Jesus and become Christians?

Romans 9:3 accursed from Christ

No, Paul Does Not Desire to Go to Hell in Romans 9:3

First, hell is not mentioned in Romans 9:3. Paul states his desire to be accursed if this would allow his brethren, the Jewish people, to recognize Jesus as the Messiah.

When people believe that the word anathema, or accursed, means “going to hell when you die,” they think that Paul is wishing he could go to hell if only all his fellow Israelites would receive eternal life instead. This sounds very noble and extremely spiritual, but Paul isn’t saying he wants to go to hell for the sake of the Jewish people.

Paul is saying that he would be willing to lose his life if it meant that his fellow Israelites would recognize Jesus as the Messiah. It is interesting that while the Jewish men in Acts 23:14ย announce a curse on themselves if they donโ€™t kill Paul, Paul here announces a desire to be cursed if it would lead to the deliverance of the Jewish people.

Indeed, Paulโ€™s life was quite often on the line as he sought to declare the gospel to the Hebrew people. So these were not mere words on Paulโ€™s part, but were actually indicative of Paulโ€™s regular approach to ministry.

The Translator is the Traitor

The objection to this way of understanding Romans 9:3, of course, is the phrase โ€œfrom Christ.โ€ In the NKJV, Paul says that he wishes he โ€œwere accursed from Christ,โ€ but other translations are not so vague. The NAS has Paul wishing to be โ€œseparated from Christโ€ while the NIV has Paul stating a desire to be โ€œcut off from Christ.โ€ย Yet neither โ€œseparatedโ€ nor โ€œcut offโ€ are in the original Greek, but were added to the text by the translators in an attempt to explain what they thought Paul was saying.

However, rather than clarifying his point, it appears they have muddied it. While Paulโ€™s statement could be understood as a desire to be eternally separated from Jesus Christ, this does not fit with all other uses of the term anathema in the Bible, and so it is the least likely way to understand this text.

Two other possible ways of understanding Romans 9:3 are preferable.

Two Ways of Understanding Romans 9:3

First, when Paul states his desire to be โ€œaccursed from Christ,โ€ he could be saying that Jesus Christ is the originator of the anathema. In this way, Paul would be stating that if he were put to death (anathema), it would be something that came from Christ.

A second option, however, is more preferable still. When Paul writes about โ€œChrist,โ€ he usually does not have only Jesus in mind. The word Christ (Gk., Christos) is equivalent to the Hebrew word for Messiah (Heb., Messiach), and means King. But in reference to the way Paul uses the title Christ, it does not only refer to Jesus, but also to all those who are in Jesus Christ and rule and reign through Him.

In Paulโ€™s letters, the word Christ is shorthand for โ€œthe body of Christโ€ or โ€œJesus Christ and all who are in Him.โ€ ย Since Christ and Messiah are kingly terms, when Paul speaks of the corporate life of Christ in the church, he is also thinking of the rule and reign of God on earth through the body of Christ, the church.

This final option provides the best way of reading Romans 9:3.

kingdom of god When Paul writes about being anathema from Christ, he is not stating a desire to be eternally cut off or separated from Jesus, but is instead stating his desire, if it were possible, to give up his life and his ministry within the Kingdom of God if such a sacrifice would help Israel come to the knowledge that Jesus is the Messiah.

This, of course, would still allow Paul to spend eternity with God and with all the saints.

In Romans 9:3, Paul does not have a wish for hell, but a willingness to sacrifice himself for the sake of those he loves.

Such sacrificial willingness is supremely Christlike, which only goes to show that if Paul were indeed to die for Christ as he desires, this would not separate Him from Jesus but would instead be the perfect representation of Jesus in His sacrifice for us.

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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: gospel dictionary, hell, kingdom of god, Messiah, Paul, Romans 9:3

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Does 1 John teach that believers will not sin?

By Jeremy Myers
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Does 1 John teach that believers will not sin?
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abide 1 John The book of 1 John is a battleground book regarding the issue of good works and sin. I remember in Bible college listening to a student debate with a professor about what 1 John teaches about whether or not a Christian can commit sin. Here is how the debate went (I am quoting this debate verbatim):

Student: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God (1 John 3:9).

Professor: If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us (1 John 1:10).

Student: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God (1 John 3:9).

Professor: If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us (1 John 1:10).

Student: No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God (1 John 3:9)

Professor: If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word is not in us (1 John 1:10)

Obviously, the professor (it was Dr. John Hart, by the way) then said something about how these verses cannot contradict, and so we would need to understand both in light of the other and the overall message of 1 John as a whole.

This is exactly right.

One of the keys to understanding the book of 1 John is to understand the word “abide” or “remain.”

abide

“Abide” is the first word I look at in my Gospel Dictionary Online course and here is a brief summary of how a few of the texts from 1 John can be understood when we properly define the word “Abide.”

The word “Abide”

The word abide means to remain, continue, or to dwell. It can refer to living in a house or dwelling place, or to following the rules of a particular game or contest.

The Greek word for abide is menล (3531) and just like its English translation, menล means to abide, remain, stay, continue, or dwell. It does not mean “to have, own, or possess.”

1 John 2:6

He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.

The first use of the word abide is in 1 John 2:6. In speaking of our life as a follower of Jesus, John writes that the one โ€œwho says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked.โ€

John is stating the truth that if we are abiding, or remaining, in fellowship with Jesus, then we will follow Jesus wherever He leads so that we will live and love like Jesus. There is nothing here about how to know that you have eternal life, but there is much truth here about how to know whether or not you are truly following Jesus in discipleship.

So it is extremely inaccurate to translate this verse as we find it in the NIV: โ€œWhoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.โ€ The implication is that if you want to have eternal life in Jesus, you need to walk as Jesus did. But this verse is not about whether or not we eternal life, for that life is a free gift of God to anyone who simply believes in Jesus for it.

Instead, 1 John 2:6 is about how to follow Jesus in our earthly lives. John says that if we are following Jesus, our lives will look like Jesus. John is not saying that if we do not walk as Jesus did then this means we do not actually have eternal life. If we do not walk as Jesus did, then we cannot claim to be His follower, and therefore, we will not have fellowship with God or with one another.

1 John 2:17

And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

abide in ChristA similar understanding can be drawn from 1 John 2:17.

Again, the NIV unhelpfully makes the reader think that doing the will of God is a requirement for eternal life (โ€œthe man who does the will of God lives foreverโ€). But John is not writing about living forever, but about abiding forever.

If you want to remain in fellowship with God, then you must do what God says. You can be a member of the family of God without being in fellowship with God. Just as the Prodigal Son did not have fellowship with his father while he was in the far country (Luke 15:11-32) yet continued to be a son the entire time, so also, those who are children of God will stay a member of His family even when they stray into sin and rebellion, but they will not abide or remain in fellowship with God when they are away from Him.

John says that if we want to remain forever in fellowship with God, then we must do Godโ€™s will. John goes on to say that this is not only how we remain in fellowship with God, but also how we abide or remain in fellowship with each other (1 John 2:19).

1 John 3:14-15

We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death. Whoever hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

Astute readers may object to the explanation above that a few passages in 1 John do talk about eternal life. First John 3:14-15 is one of those.

Once again, however, the NIV translation is most unhelpful when it completely removes the word abide in its translation of 1 John 3:15. It reads โ€œโ€ฆ you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.โ€ From this verse, some people teach that a murderer can never be forgiven or go to heaven. John disagrees, as do Moses, King David, and the Apostle Paul (for they were all murderers).

John put the word abide in this statement for a reason and we must not take it out.

When a person murders, John says, it is because they were not abiding or remaining within the reality of eternal life, that is, in the reality of their life with Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ would never lead one of His followers to hate or murder someone else.

So if a Christian lives in hate toward someone else (as frequently happens) or even ends up murdering someone (as occasionally happens), it is not because they are following Jesus, but because they have failed to follow Him. Jesus does not lead us toward hate and murder, but toward love and light.

That this is what John means is clearly indicated by the following context, especially in 1 John 3:17ย where John writes that when the love of God abides in us and we are living in light of Godโ€™s love, we will help our brothers in need rather than hate them (Once again, the NIV unhelpfully deleted the word abide from 3:17).

John is not saying that if you hate your brother, you do not have eternal life. He is saying that if you hate your brother, you are not abiding in eternal life. In other words, when you hate others, it is not the eternal life you have from God that is leading you to do so, but is instead because you are following the principle of death which comes from this world.

So what about 1 John 3:9?

Well, it does contain the word “abide.” It talks about God’s seed “abiding” or “remaining” in the one who is born of God. Based on what you learned above, can you understand what John means? Feel free to offer your input in the comment section below, or join us in the Discipleship Area of RedeemingGod.com to learn more about this passage.

The Gospel DictionaryUnderstanding the Gospel requires us to properly understand the key words and terms of the Gospel. Take my course, "The Gospel Dictionary" to learn about the 52 key words of the Gospel, and hundreds of Bible passages that use these words.

This course costs $297, but when you join the Discipleship group, you can to take the entire course for free.

God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: 1 John 2:17, 1 John 2:6, 1 John 3:14-15, 1 John 3:9, abide, gospel dictionary, remain

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Jonah Conclusion โ€“ What is the Book of Jonah About?

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Jonah Conclusion โ€“ What is the Book of Jonah About?
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What is the book of Jonah all about? Is it about Godโ€™s heart for all the people of the world? Is it about how God wants you to get involved in world missions?

No, it is not about either one of these things, even though this is often the way you hear it taught in sermons and during Missionโ€™s Conferences. In this final study of the book of Jonah, you will learn what the book of Jonah is all about.

Jonah conclusion

In this discussion of Jonah we look at:

  • Common theories about what Jonah is all about
  • The true message of the book of Jonah
  • What you can learn from the story of Jonah

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Jonah 4:10-11 – God Even Loves โ€œEvilโ€ People

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Jonah 4:10-11 – God Even Loves โ€œEvilโ€ People
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This study looks at Jonah 4:10-11, the final two verses in the book of Jonah. But this is not the end of our discussion of Jonah. There will be one final episode next week, Episode #100, in which we discuss what the story of Jonah is all about.

As we will see in this study, the story of Jonah has a very strange ending, but it shows us that God loves all people, even those we consider “evil.”

Jonah 4:10-11

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Jonah 4:9 โ€“ Disgusted with God

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Jonah 4:9 โ€“ Disgusted with God
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Jonah angry at God Jonah 4:9Have you ever been disgusted with God? So disgusted with how God lets evil go unchecked, and how God doesnโ€™t seem to protect you or your family or your plans, or how God seems to bless the wicked people while not helping the righteous?

Have you ever been so disgusted with how God seems to behave that you didnโ€™t want anything to do with Him?

I have felt that way before. And so did Jonah. Jonah was so disgusted with God that he asked God to damn him. This, and more, is what we learn from Jonah 4:9.

The Text of Jonah 4:9

Then God said to Jonah, โ€œIs doing good infuriating to youโ€”because of the vine?โ€ And he said, โ€œDoing good is infuriating to meโ€”unto death.โ€

In this discussion of Jonah 4:9 we look at:

  • What God meant by His question to Jonah.
  • Why God calls it good that a vine was destroyed.
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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: anger, Bible Study Podcast, hell, Jonah 4:9, justice, One Verse Podcast

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