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Client-Patron Churches and Clergy

By Jeremy Myers
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Client-Patron Churches and Clergy

Tithing

As we saw yesterday, in the era of the New Testament, there were two main ways of gaining financial support for the work of the ministry. You either worked a job to pay your own expenses, or you found a rich Patron who would you on as a client and pay for your expenses.

The Early Church Fathers

Outside of the New Testament, we see these two methods referenced over and over in the writings of the early church fathers. Some worked with their hands and supported themselves. Others sought out a Patron to provide for their needs and give them the food and clothes they needed so they could teach, travel, study, and write. Typically, the first few lines of a book indicate whether an early church father was a client or not, as those who have Patrons usually always dedicate their book or pamphlet to their Patron. For example, the patron of St. Jerome was Pope Damasus, and Jerome makes frequent references to works that had been commissioned to him by Damasus, and that once written, they would be dedicated to Damasus.

The Client-Patron Pope

The fact that the Pope was a Patron raises an interesting point. At this point in church history, the spiritual leader in the church of Rome was also a Client. He was a Client of the Roman Empire. When Emperor Constantine converted to Christianity and made it the official religion of the Roman Empire, the church was unified with the Roman Empire, and was viewed as a Client to the Empire. The Empire turned over all the pagan temples and most of the pagan priests to the Church, and paid for them all out of the Empires vast tax and war revenue.

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Money for Ministry

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Money for Ministry

Tithing

Did you know that practice of tithing, as it is taught today in many churches, is only about 300 years old? It did not exist in the days of Jesus. It was not taught or practiced in the churches planted by Paul. Even where we do read in Scripture about tithing (a few places in the Old Testament, and fewer still in the New), the practice then was not at all what we are encouraged to practice today: giving 10% of your income to the church.

Later this week we will look at some of the Scripture passages used to defend the practice of tithing, but first I want to discuss the history of tithing.

We begin with looking at how things worked for most of the first millennium.

Two Ways of Getting Money

Roughly the first 1000 years of the church operated under the Client-Patron system. Under this system, wealthy patrons would offer to protect, sponsor, and provide for the needs of scholars, philosophers, doctors, in exchange for their full-time service. Patrons also would provide for peasants and farmers in similar ways, but with different sets of requirements.

So if one wanted to be a philosopher, doctor, or religious teacher, you had two choices. You either had to pay your own way by having a job, or you had to find a Patron who would take you on as a client, and pay your way for you.

Examples from Scripture

We see examples of both in Scripture. Jesus was trained as a carpenter, but He did not support His ministry through carpentry. Instead, it appears that He had a small network of patrons who supported His work and ministry. Luke 8:3 indicates that Jesus had several followers who provided for Jesus out of their wealth. In others words, Jesus was their client. They believed in what He was doing, and so they supported Him so He could do it full time.

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An Expensive god

By Jeremy Myers
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An Expensive god

Yesterday I wrote about the beautiful church building I discovered in the midst of a slum in Bangalore. The church was doing lots of good in the slum, but I also discovered that many of the poverty stricken people of the slum tithed sacrificially to the church.

I remember wondering if this was what God wanted.

Lavish Buildings in Low Income Areas

In more recent years, I have discovered that having a lavish church building in the midst of poverty is not an isolated incident. It is not uncommon to go into some of the poorest and most destitute communities around the world, where many of the people live in cardboard and tarpaper shacks and have barely enough food to live on, and in the middle of this community, find a large, grandly constructed church building with towering steeples, intricate stained glass, beautiful woodwork, and gorgeous hand-painted murals.

Church in Manila Slum
A slum in Manila. What does this church building tell the people of this slum about God?

In 2001 I went with a mission’s trip to Kino, Mexico, a poor fishing village on the eastern shore of the Gulf of California. Many of the families of this village live in tarpaper shacks and slept on a dirt floor. Yet right in the middle of town was a large, brick church building, complete with stained glass and steeples. I don’t know the story of how it was built, or where the money come from, or who was hired to construct it, or anything about the building, but I still remember thinking that the people of the community might have been better served if that church building never existed.

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Pass on the Offering Plate

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Pass on the Offering Plate

Offering Plate

Chapter 12 in my book, Close Your Church for Good, is called “Pass on the Offering Plate.”

In this chapter, we look at some of the issue of tithes and offerings in the church, and whether the practice is truly biblical or not, and what alternative ways there might be for churches to obtain funding for their various ministries.

Please note that due to some of the feedback I receive on these posts, this chapter might be radically revised for the final edition of the book. These changes will only be available in the print or eBook version when it comes out.

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Cathedrals: Heaven on Earth?

By Jeremy Myers
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Cathedrals: Heaven on Earth?

Bangalore Slum

Several years ago, I visited a slum in Bangalore, India. After walking through the slum and trying to serve some of the people that lived there, the team I was with happened upon a beautiful brick church building, complete with steeples and stained glass. I was a little surprised to see such a building in the middle of such poverty, and asked several of the people in the slum about the church.

A Wonderful Church in the Slum

They had only good things to say about the church. It was a good church. The church tried to offer food, clothing, and basic healthcare to the people of the slum. Those who attended the church said that they liked going. The music was beautiful. The pastor was kind. And they said that the church was cool and clean, and attending the church gave them some reprieve from the heat and filth that surrounded them. Some said that the church gave them a glimpse of what heaven must be like. It was a little bit of heaven on earth.

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