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C. S. Lewis on Gay Marriage

By Jeremy Myers
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C. S. Lewis on Gay Marriage

CS LewisAs far I know, C. S. Lewis never directly wrote about gay marriage (but see the update note at bottom of this post). But he did write about whether or not the government should be involved in defining what is marriage and what is not.

In his classic book, Mere Christianity C. S. Lewis wrote something which directly applies to the question in our courts and churches today about defining marriage. Lewis was writing about marriage between divorced people, but the idea can equally be applied to marriage between two gay people.

Here is what he wrote:

Before leaving the question of divorce, I should like to distinguish two things which are very often confused. The Christian conception of marriage is one: the other is quite the different questionโ€”how far Christians, if they are voters or Members of Parliament, ought to try to force their views of marriage on the rest of the community by embodying them in the divorce laws. A great many people seem to think that if you are a Christian yourself you should try to make divorce difficult for every one. I do not think that. At least I know I should be very angry if the Mohammedans tried to prevent the rest of us from drinking wine.

My own view is that the Churches should frankly recognize that the majority of the British people are not Christian and, therefore, cannot be expected to live Christian lives. There ought to be two distinct kinds of marriage: one governed by the State with rules enforced on all citizens, the other governed by the church with rules enforced by her on her own members. The distinction ought to be quite sharp, so that a man knows which couples are married in a Christian sense and which are not.

Incidentally, Lewis’ view appears to be quite similar to my view on the gay marriage amendment. It is time for Christians to recognize that the United States Government (or any human government for that matter) is not the enforcer of biblical guidelines and laws. Governments make their own laws which they believe will help bring peace, safety, and security within their own lands, but these laws are often at odds with the instructions and commands of Scripture.

Even though the government makes something “legal,” this does not mean that it is now legal for Christians, for we must follow both the laws of God and the laws of our government, with the laws of our King taking precedent in our personalย behavior over the laws of our land. And we must be wary about trying to get our government to enforce Biblical guidelines on all the people in a country, for if it can be done with “Christian” laws, it can also be done at a later time with “Muslim” laws, or “Mormon” laws, or whatever religion is in “power” at the time. C. S. Lewis gives the example of Muslims and their prohibition to drinking alcohol, but if Mormons ever came into power over the country, maybe they would put a law into effect prohibiting the drinking of coffee. Then where would we be? Just imagine if Romney had been elected President!!!

I’m joking, of course, for I doubt Mormons would ever do that. But in some countries Muslims are trying to enforce their Sharia law upon everybody in that country, just as here in the United States some Christians are trying to enforce some of our laws on all the people in our country. If anything has been learned from history, we know that it is bad for everybody when any religion picks up the sword of government and tries to enforce religious laws on anybody.

UPDATE: In re-readingย The Four Lovesย recently, I discovered that Lewis did in fact write about homosexuality, but mainly in the context of male friendship. He scoffs at the idea that some modern proponents of homosexual marriage see homosexual behavior in the deep male friendships of ancient literature. Here is some of what he says:

It has actually become necessary in our time to rebut the theory that every firm and serious friendship is really homosexual (p. 245)

Which Lewis then goes on to do for the next page or two. He concludes with this:

Kisses, tears and embraces are not in themselves evidence of homosexuality. The implications would be, if nothing else, too comic. Hrothgar embracing Beowulf, Johnson embracing Boswell (a pretty flagrantly heterosexual couple) and all those hairy old toughs of centurions in Tacitus, clinging to one another and begging for last kisses when the legion was broken up… all pansies? [His word; not mine!!!] If you can believe that you can believe anything (p. 247).

So he did say a little something on the subject after all…

UPDATE 2:ย I have been reading the letters of C. S. Lewis compiled in Yours, Jack.ย C. S. Lewis wrote a letter to Sheldon Vanauken about homosexuality (p. 241). In it, he wrote this:

I take it for certain that theย physicalย satisfaction of homosexual desires is sin. This leaves the homosexual no worse off than any normal person who is, for whatever reason, prevented from marrying. Second, our speculations on the cause of the abnormality are not what matters and we must be content with ignorance. The disciples were not toldย whyย the man was born blind (John 9:1-3): only the final cause: that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

… What should the positive life of the homosexual be? I wish I had a letter which a pious male homosexual, now dead, once wrote to me–but of course it was the sort of letter one takes care to destroy. He believed that his necessityย couldย be turned to spiritual gain: that there were certain kinds of sympathy and understanding, a certain social role which mereย menย and mereย women could not give. But it is all horribly vague–too long ago. Perhaps any homosexual who humbly accepts his cross and puts himself under divine guidance will be shown the way.

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God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: CS Lewis, Discipleship, gay marriage, homosexual, homosexuality

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A Church Builds the Tower of Babel

By Jeremy Myers
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A Church Builds the Tower of Babel

There is a church in Australia that has decided to build the world’s tallest spire.

I am sure this is exactly what Jesus wants.

Here is an artists rendering of the proposed structure:

church spire tallest

I kind of doubt it will actually look like that, but whatever….

I know I do not agree with a lot of the ways that churches spend money, but is there really any justification of any sort whatsoever to build the world’s tallest church spire?

I mean really…. I complained when First Baptist in Dallas decided to raise $50 million for their building renovations (and then later upped it to $115 million!!!), and the plan by this church in Australia is more of the same. It may look beautiful to men, but I firmly believe that in God’s eyes, it’s a big pile of crap.

I am sure the church is quite generous with their money and is doing a lot of good in their town, but even if they are giving 99% of their income away, and only spending 1% to build this spire, what justification is there to build the world’s tallest church spire?

I just don’t get it.

I know I am not supposed to judge other people and other churches and their use of money, and I am certain there are ways I am spending my own money wastefully, but I just cannot help myself on this. What kind of message does this send to a watching world?

Does it say, “We care about the poor, the homeless, and needy, and weak, the orphans, and widows, the outcast, and the rejected”? Or does it say, “Look at us! We have the world’s tallest church spire!”?

Sigh. I just don’t know what to say sometimes. Am I wrong on this somewhere?


 

Someone please explain this to me.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, Theology of the Church

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How to Understand Women

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How to Understand Women

Hey men! Do you want to better understand the women in your life? I finally found a book thatย actually helps!ย Whether you want to understand your wife or your daughter, there is finally a book with some helpful tips and suggestions. This book is going on my “Best Christian Books” list.

I have read a dozen or two books about marriage, but have never found a book this helpful.ย 

Daddy DatesAnd the most surprising thing of all is that it was not necessarily written to help men understand women. It was just written to help dads connect with their daughters. But the tips, suggestions, and ideas that the author gives will help us better understand the women that are in our lives.

The book is Daddy Dates by Greg Wright, and it is one of the best books I have ever read on the subject of women. Even if you don’t have daughters, this book will help you understand your wife.

Greg Wright realized one day that he knew next to nothing about his daughters, and so set out to learn as much about them as he could. But he didn’t know where to start. So he decided to start where all of us guys start when we want to get to know a woman – by dating! He starting taking his daughters on dates, and in the process, learned more about his daughters than any man thinks is possible!

This great little book is a quick read, and is full of humor (great for us guys), and is chock-full of ideas of how to date your daughters, what to avoid, topics to discuss, and even has a list to get us started of the “Top 15 Daddy Dates.”

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

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I Hate Church Bullies

By Jeremy Myers
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I Hate Church Bullies

This is a guest post by Sam Riviera.ย Heย spends most of his time and energy caring for others in his community so that through his life and actions they might see Jesus. He has also written โ€œ14 Reasons I Never Returned to the Institutional Church.โ€œ

If you would like to write a guest post for this blog,ย check out the guidelines here.

church bulliesWhen I was in first grade I told my mother that one of the boys in my class was picking on me. Much to my surprise, my mother taught me how to protect myself. She taught me how to hold one arm in front of me to ward off blows while holding a balled-up fist behind it ready to throw a good punch if someone decided to punch me first.

Only many years later did I learn that no one dared pick on my mother when she was a kid. After mother taught me how to protect myself, no one dared pick on me.

If only it were that easy to respond to church bullies!ย A few well-placed punches and all the church bullies would stop bullying us for fear of suddenly acquiring a flattened nose.

How do we identify a church bully? Why do they bully? How can we best respond to them? (Even though they might deserve a flattened nose, I donโ€™t advocate that response.)

How Do We Identify A Church Bully?

Church bullies usually give themselves away by what they say. Often, they might say things like this:

โ€œA Christian would be at Wednesday night prayer service.โ€ย (I worked evenings.)

โ€œA Christian would go to that Sunday school class.โ€ (It was horrible. Iโ€™d have preferred going to the town dump to shoot rats.)

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, guest post

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Santa Clausette

By Jeremy Myers
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Santa Clausette

believe in the spirit of christmasMy wife is the epitome of Christmas spirit. She is Santa Claus incarnate. She is Santa Clausette. We are near the tail end of a cross-country move from New York to Oregon, and still trying to find doctors and mechanics, grocery stores and gas stations, and she still has somehow found the time to put together the greatest Christmas of all for myself and our three girls.

Almost every day when I come home from work, something else is decorated for Christmas, or another batch of cookies has been made. Also, this year she rescued a stray cat from off the streets, and named it Christmas. She has decorated not just one Christmas tree, but four. Yes, four Christmas trees. She has put up boughs and lights inside and out. And every single day, she reads piles of Christmas stories to our three girls, lighting up their eyes (and hers) with wonder and delight.

This is the spirit of Christmas. She is Santa Clausette.

But beyond all the goodies and decorations, she has exhibited the Christmas spirit in two other tangible ways.

homeless feetAs we have been driving around Oregon, we have noticed many homeless people. They seem to be everywhere. Our friend, Sam, in California likes to give tarps, bottles of water, bags of chips, and socks to homeless people in his town, and when Wendy heard this, she decide to put together Christmas bags for the homeless people in our area. She bought a box of canvas bags, a box of blue tarps, several flats of water bottles, and along with the girls, put together โ€œChristmas care packagesโ€ for the homeless.Each canvas bag gets filled with a tarp, bottles of water, snacks, food, and a candy cane or two.

We carry these bags around in our car, and every time we see a homeless person, we stop and give them one. This has also helped our girls to begin looking for homeless people instead of trying to avoid seeing them. They have also begun to recognize the homeless people as well. The other day we were driving through town and one of our girls said, โ€œThereโ€™s a homeless lady! Letโ€™s give her a gift bag!โ€ But when we got near, one daughter said, โ€œOh, we gave her one last week. But that is okay. We can give her another one.โ€ They recognized her. She was not a faceless person sitting on a corner holding a sign. She was a person in need, whom we could help. And she deserved two bags of goodies.

And my wife, Santa Clausette, thought of doing all this.

candlesThen last week, she found out about a lady near where we live who moved up here from California. She was married to an abusive husband, and was scared that he would start abusing their daughter, and so she took the brave step of moving to a place where she had no home, no job, and no friends. My wife is putting together boxes for this lady and her daughter, and in the coming week, we are going to take it all to her. The boxes are filled with food, candles, cookies, some of our favorite Christmas books, Christmas ornaments, and numerous other items which we hope will help this lady and her daughter have a slightly better Christmas, and to know that there are people around her who love her and want to help care for her.

This is the spirit of Christmas. This is my wife.

Thank you, Wendy, for being Santa Clausette, the spirit of Christmas, for showing the light and love of Jesus to a hurting world by being His hands and His feet.


This post is part of the December Synchroblog in which the participants tell a story about the meaning of Christmas, and the advent of Jesus Christ. Below is a list of the other contributors. Go check them all out!

  • Carol Kuniholm writing atย Words Half Heard
  • Liz Dyer celebratesย Dreams Do Come True
  • Leah Sophia digs in withย Planting Hope
  • Glen Hager reveals a story ofย Christmas Surgery
  • Kathy Escobar wrestles withย holiday expectations

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Blogging, Christmas, Discipleship, family, Santa Clause, wife

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