A couple weeks ago, I announced that I was giving up on my proposal (…again).
Then Chuck McKnight alerted me to this video interview of Greg Boyd by Nate Cunningham.
The video should start at the 13:40 mark, but if it doesn’t, that is where the interview begins to talk about Greg Boyd’s proposal on how to understand the violence of God in the Old Testament.
Greg Boyd’s view sounds shockingly similar to the view I am having great difficultly defending from Scripture. I am not at all saying that Greg Boyd is borrowing from me (he doesn’t know me), but it makes me wonder if I was on the right track after all…
Sigh…
06/26/14 UPDATE:
As a follow-up from the comments below, here is a much more in-depth video about Greg Boyd’s proposal (thanks to Soli Deo Gloria):
It sounds shockingly similar to what I have been arguing. I promise I have never watched this video before until yesterday (June 25, 2014). The things he is talking about in this video I was writing about over a year ago. But it looks like he gave this Q&A several months before that… So did Greg Boyd steal my book, or did I steal his? Neither!
I was listening to a podcast this morning from 2012 where Raborn Johnson and Steve Sensenig talked about a Theology Rooted in Love, and they were saying many of the same things as well!
You know what I think is going on? This is another example where the Spirit of God moves in the hearts and minds of people all around the world to see similar truths at similar times so that we all work together to teach and learn what the Spirit is saying to the church. It is, as Richard Rohr calls it, the spiritual “symbiosis” between mutual members of the Body of Christ (Things Hidden, 2).
Anyway, watch the videos above, and then let me know what you think in the comments below.
Wow. He really sounds like he has read your blog.
So what will you do? Keep going … again? Or still quitting?
Greetings from germany
Jay
I really don’t think he is reading my blog. I started recently going back to read some of his posts on his blog, and it looks like he was saying these things before I was. So the case could be made that I was reading his blog! I don’t know what to do with my proposal. I feel I need to persevere and finish the research, but I also know that if I publish it, it will have to be modified extensively…
I had found a similar Boyd sermon on this topic here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5CkCGR9YI4
Wow. Thanks. I’ll check it out.
I would not be comfortable if Mr. Boyd and I agreed on something.
From the video—The “open view of God” from Greg Boyd and also Schoenheit makes a lot of sense to me. It basically says there are many possible futures but God with his infinite intelligence knows every single possibilty of every possible future.WOW!.
It explains why God many times in the bible says if you do this -this will happen if you do that that will happen…..
Our prayers matter and help determine the future.
Aha! I’ve always explained it to my terribly logical son in a similar way: God is a master chess player on a multidimensional chess board. He is so good at it, he can anticipate not just the next 10 moves, but all our moves into infinite, and he can then do his best to steer us into His perfect will accordingly. Yeah, it’s oversimplified (what if we sacrifice our knight for nothing?), but you can’t really explain God without oversimplifying something. And it worked for the mind it was meant for at the time.
Here is a youtube video series that does a very good job of explaining the open view and answering the objections against it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of52ji-NfBk
It sounds like pretty much the same thing. He states some of it slightly differently, but you two are saying something similar, which I think is a reasonably accurate portrait of God.
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