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Is our Culture Becoming Post-Christian?

By Jeremy Myers
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Is our Culture Becoming Post-Christian?

post ChristianI recently read John Burke’s book No Perfect People Allowed. This is another book that every Christian should read.

In the book, he makes the statement that we no longer live in a postmodern era, we now live in a post-Christian era (p. 15).

Is our Society Post-Christian?

Apparently, Christianity has already lost the war against postmodernism.

(I personally don’t think it was a war that ever should have been waged in the first place. Christians are to engage, embrace, and redeem culture, not fight against it.)

In his book, John Burke explains how the church can operate and function in a culture that is “post-Christian.”

Atheists think Christianity is Growing

Ironically, as I was reading this book about how to live as Christians in a post-Christian era, I ran across an exchange between atheist Christopher Hitchens (author of the best-selling book God is Not Great) and Suchin Pak (correspondent for MTV news). She announced to him that our culture was becoming increasingly Christian. She said, “Our audience is more religious and conservative than we assume.”

When he heard this, Hitchens replied, “I really hate to hear that the young are becoming more Christian. If that’s true, that’s the worst news of the night!”

So here we have two leaders both coming to different conclusions about our culture. The Christian says we are becoming post-Christian, while the atheist is alarmed that we are becoming increasingly Christian.

I guess it’s like the debate over global warming. Some say the polar ice caps are melting while others, who note that this it the coldest year in a century, are predicting a new ice age.

So what do you think? What have you observed in your community and with your friends? Is our society and culture “Post-Christian”?

The Great “Post-Christian” Opportunity

If you want to know what I think, the following picture sums it up nicely.

post Christian pre Christian

While institutional Christianity is quickly dying, there is rapid expansion in the number of people who are seeking to follow Jesus in organic, missional, relational ways. While the number of people who “go to church” might be decreasing, the number of people who seek to “be the church” is increasing.

In my opinion, this is a good and healthy thing, and provides a great opportunity for a post-Christian church to truly live and love others like Jesus in the world.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: atheists, be the church, Christianity, culture, Discipleship, evangelism, going to church, mission

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Would Jesus be a Christian?

By Jeremy Myers
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Would Jesus be a Christian?

Jesus is not a ChristianI have a friend who sees everything wrong with the world, and then looks at the average Christian, and as a result wants nothing to do with Christianity.

He says that it appears Christians would rather spend their time arguing and debating theology than helping the poor and homeless, and would rather drive Hummers and build huge church buildings than drill wells in Africa or feed orphans.

He doesn’t think that Jesus would be a “Christian” if Jesus were walking the earth today.

The other day, he showed me a YouTube video where a secular rock artist posted his video about this very thing.

The artist was very angry. The video and song lyrics show Christians going to church and pastors preaching sermons, all the while ignoring the hungry and needy that are all around them. The basic message of the song is “Christians need to stop praying and preaching and building huge cathedrals for themselves, and start doing something that actually helps!”

After I watched the video, my friend turned to me and said, “I think there is a special place in hell for Christians.”

Whether you realize it or not, this is the prevalent attitude toward Christianity among those who are ages 18-35. If you don’t believe this is true, you probably don’t know many non-Christians who are 18-35 years old.

How have we as Christians come to this, and what (if anything) can we do about it?

Here are two books I recently read which may be of some help in this area:

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: be the church, Christian, Discipleship, love others, Theology of Jesus, Theology of the Church

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How can we do church? Make Disciples!

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How can we do church? Make Disciples!

Once we understand what church is, we realize that we cannot go to church. Others in the world have come to understand this as well, and have started telling Christians to “Stop going to church…instead be the church.” Though shocking to some, it is right on target for how we need to be thinking. We cannot “get credit” for church by showing up in some building for an hour on Sunday morning, singing a few songs, smiling a few smiles, and listening to a sermon. That’s not “church.”

Do Church - Make Disciples

If, as we suggested yesterday, church is something you are, then it is something that you are part of all the time. Just as you are part of the human race everywhere you go, so also, you are part of the church everywhere you go.

So the question isn’t “Where do you attend church” or “What do you do in your church service” but instead, “As a part of the church, what can you be doing to strengthen it?” or “What does church do?”

The Biblical answer to this is simple. As the church, our task is to make disciples.

Make Disciples

And there are few “church guidelines” on how to do this. We have several examples of what various believers did in the first century do make disciples. They met together, prayed, ate meals, learned the teaching of the apostles, and served one another. Also, it seems that a big part of their disciple-making process was telling others about Jesus.

In history, we have many more examples of what other believers did to make disciples. Some of them worked for a time, but then became alarmingly ineffective. our modern day “church service” is a great example of this. At one point in history, it was a great way to reach the community for Jesus and teach and train these new believers about Jesus. It was where people came to serve and be served, hence the name “church service.” But this method doesn’t seem to work any more for most people. So why hang on to it?

What is the church supposed to do? Make disciples. So let us stop trying to figure out how to do church and instead figure out how to make disciples. 

In our day, we need to reexamine the ways we try to make disciples and if they are not working, ask ourselves:

  • What will work?
  • How can we best make disciples?
  • Are meetings necessary?
  • If so, when/where should we meet, and what should we do when we meet?
  • How can we get believers to know what God wants them to know and do what God wants them to do so we can be the church in our community?
  • How can we best tell people about Jesus?”

The answers to these questions will be different for different groups of believers living in different cities. But they are questions that every group of believers must ask if they are going to effectively make disciples.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: be the church, church, Discipleship, make disciples, Theology of the Church

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No More Mix and Match Church

By Jeremy Myers
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No More Mix and Match Church

NOTE: This is an OLD post from 2007, and I no longer agree with everything I have written about church below. To learn my more recent views, read some of my newer posts on the church, or my books on church. Better yet, sign up to take my free online course on the church.

Fast Food ChurchesI like fast food, but not always from the same place. I like the hamburgers from Wendy’s, the french fries from Burger King, and a soda from the convenience store ($0.59 for 32 oz!). Occasionally, when I have the time, I will actually eat my lunch this way, driving around to each location to get what I want.

It gets even worse when I’m with my wife and daughters. Wendy won’t eat fast food at all, unless it’s a Deli fresh sandwich and Jamocha shake from Arby’s. Taylor will only eat cheeseburgers from McDonalds. Selah won’t eat fast food at all, and so we have to bring apples and a PBJ for her. We can’t figure out what Kahlea eats.

Needless to say, with such a mix-and-match menu, we don’t do fast food very often.

But this is how many people “attend church.” They go to one church for the awesome music and great children’s program. But the pastor’s preaching there is usually too shallow, so they get their sermons online from  John MacArthur, Mark Driscoll, or Rob Bell. The church they attend has small groups, but most are too far away, so they get fellowship on Friday night by going out to dinner with a few friends, most of whom go to different churches. Some of these friends don’t go to church at all, in which case, it’s not “fellowship” but “relationship evangelism.”

Though many churches today try to provide “one stop shopping” most Christians engage Christianity with a “mix and match” mentality.

Church Shopping

I have been guilty of this myself quite frequently the past few years, but recently, I have begun to question the legitimacy of it. I have justified such church venue as trying to get the “best of everything” from wherever I can find it. “Besides,” I tell myself, “I’m part of the universal church, and it doesn’t matter where I get the things I need to be healthy, as long as I get them from somewhere.”

But is this true?

In a previous post, I proposed a definition for what the church is and does. After reflection, I think this definition needs some refinement.

Not only must Christians exalt God through a life of worship, edify one another through the use of spiritual gifts, and evangelize the world, I now also believe that all of these things must be done together with the same group of believers.

Body of Christ

I get this from Paul’s frequent usage of “body” imagery when talking about the church (cf. Eph 4:11-16; 1 Cor 12). The emphasis in these passages is not only that the various parts have various functions, but that each part must perform it’s particular function with and for the other parts that it receives benefits from.

The body of Christ is a symbiotic relationship. If you have the gift of helps, the person(s) you get your primary Bible teaching from should also be the person(s) you are trying to help (in big churches, you may not actually be helping the teaching pastor, but you can help him indirectly through doing things in the church and for the people of the church). The group you meet with for encouragement and prayer should be the group that goes out with you to develop relationships for evangelism and discipleship. Only in this way can they encourage and pray for you more effectively.

Body of Christ the ChurchFollowing the imagery of the body, the people whose spiritual gifts you are spiritually benefiting from, should be the same people who benefit from your spiritual gifts. Otherwise, we’ve got a foot taking nourishment from a mouth and cleaning from a hand, but not helping either one walk where they need to go. It’s a selfish and disjointed way to function.

Does this mean you can’t get good Bible teaching from Alistair Begg or Matt Chandler unless you go their church? Of course not. Just don’t consider that your church teaching. Does this mean you can’t reach out to the community with people from other congregations? I hope you do partner in this way with other churches! But don’t consider this your evangelism unless you are also joining with people from your own body of believers.

I am not trying to be legalistic about all this. I just want you and your church body to be healthy. Besides, you’ll find this approach much more enjoyable and natural than driving all over to get a full meal.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: be the church, Church planting, Discipleship, Theology of the Church, what is church

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