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5 Signs you might be in a fantasy church. #3 actually happened to my wife

By Jeremy Myers
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5 Signs you might be in a fantasy church. #3 actually happened to my wife

In a previous post I introduced the idea that in some ways, church can be worse than porn. The reason is that while porn causes people to feel inadequate with their sex life, many churches cause people to feel inadequate about their spiritual life. Both are presenting a fantasy that does not match reality. Today, (with a head nod to Jeff Foxworthy) I want to present some signs that you might be in a fantasy church.

5 Signs you might be in a fantasy church

fantasy church

1. If everybody in your church seems happy, fulfilled, and satisfied all the time … you might be in a fantasy church. (Did you ever sing that “Happy, happy, happy all the time” song in Sunday school? Yeeeaaah …. nobody is truly happy, happy, happy all the time.)

2. If you are in a church where everybody seems to have devotions every day, their prayers are always answered in miraculous ways, and everybody seems to be talking about God all the time … you might be in a fantasy church.

3. If during the greeting time, someone asks you how you are doing, and when you answer “Terrible” they smile, nod their head, and say, “That’s nice,” … you might be in a fantasy church. (This actually happened to my wife!)

4. If you are in a church where people never seem to sin, have fights with their spouse, get speeding tickets, have trouble with lust or alcohol, or have questions and doubts about what the pastor preaches … you might be in a fantasy church.

5. If all you ever hear from the pulpit is how great it is to be a Christian, and how God will supply all your needs and take care of every problem … you might be in a fantasy church.

(If you can think of others, please post them in the comments below!)

If you find yourself in a fantasy church, beware!

Trying to be real and authentic in such a place will only get you hurt more deeply. The best thing a person can do who finds themselves in a fantasy church is to leave quietly and find a group of people with whom they can be authentic, open, and honest (even if they are not all Christians!).

One of favorite Christian music groups, Casting Crowns, has experienced this also, and sings about it in their song “Stained Glass Masquerade”:

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: attending church, church, Discipleship, honesty, Theology of the Church

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Is Your Church Worse than Porn?

By Jeremy Myers
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Is Your Church Worse than Porn?

I watched a debate last week between porn king Ron Jeremy, and porn pastor Craig Gross. Apparently, the two are traveling around to college campuses and debating the pros and cons of porn. I love what Craig is doing at XXX Church, and his book The Gutter is one of the better books I have ever read.

So I really hate to say that in my opinion, Craig lost the debate. There are multiple reasons why, which I won’t go into here. (This is NOT to say I am in favor of porn!)

But something was said during the debate which really got me thinking. One of Craig’s arguments was that porn is fantasy, and people who watch porn are bound to be disappointed by sex, since reality never matches fantasy. This is certainly true, and even Ron Jeremy didn’t deny that porn presents a fantasy.

But Ron’s rebuttal is what really made me think. Ron argued that we all live in a fantasy world. Everything we see on television is fantasy and does not match up with reality. Most of what we see and read in books and magazines is hyped-up, glossed-over, air-brushed fiction.

church worse than pornHis argument was that if porn is wrong because porn is fantasy, then almost everything we read and watch and get involved in is wrong as well, because most of it is fantasy. Even the way most of us live our lives is fiction. We rarely let people see the inner hurt, pain, depression, frustration, fear, loneliness, and anger.

As my wife and I were talking about this, she made the observation that this fantasy-life fiction is magnified in most churches.

The Fantasy World of Church

We seem to think that since the Bible talks about peace that passes understanding, joy in the midst of trials, contentment in times of need, faith in the face of fear, and happy lives full of holy ambition, that if we don’t have these things, something is wrong with us.

And when we look around at others on Sunday morning, and sing the happy songs, and listen to the motivating sermon, we are tempted to think, “Everybody else seems to have what we are so loudly proclaiming. I better act like I do too, or they will think something is wrong with me.”

A pretty good case could be made that church fantasy is more damaging than porn fantasy.

The reason is that most people in most churches don’t know that everyone else is in just as much pain as they are. Most people wear painted smiles to church. The suits and skirts hide scars. And the pastor isn’t really that excited about God; he’s just high on caffeine (I’m speaking to myself there!).

Most people are afraid to be real and authentic at church because then people will think they’re unspiritual.

fake smiles at churchMany churches are bigger fantasy playgrounds than the porn industry.

Which is Worse?

So the question is this: Which is worse? Thinking that your spouse will never be satisfied with you in bed, OR thinking that God will never be satisfied with you in this life? The first is a result of looking at porn, the second is a result of attending some churches.

Future posts will look at some possible indications that you are attending a fantasy church (Worse than Porn Part 2, Worse than Porn Part 3, and what you can do about it.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: church, Discipleship, honesty, porn, Theology of the Church

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Exposed!

By Jeremy Myers
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I’m attending a church planting conferenceย on April 24-27 called Exposed, and I’m looking forward to it more than any other church planting conference I’ve been to. Here’s why:

First, theyย are limiting attendance to only 20-30. I’ve been to many church planting and church growth conferences over the years, and though it is exciting to be part of conferences with 100’s (or 1000’s) of people in attendance, I always feel a bit…lost. In big conferences, to those who are teaching, I’m just another face in a huge crowd. To those who are attending, I’m just some other guy who they will never meet again. But at Exposed, I imagine I will get to know the speakers and the others in attendance in a wayย not possible at other conferences. Who knows? Maybe I will even develop some friendships with other church planters, and we can partner with each other in the future.

Second, the conferenceย isย being hosted byย Square 1 Church Planting, which was founded by two guys (Joe Centrino and Stephen Hammond) who have actually planted churches and are still pastoring churches. Not only that, they haven’t written books (yet), or been invited to the White House, or raised $4 million in four weeks, or seen their church go from 50 to 5000 in 5 years. While some of this may happen to them in the future (it could!) right now, it’s just twoย guys in the midst of church planting who want to help others plant too.ย Sometimes, I think the “big name” church planting gurus have forgotten (or never experienced in the first place) some of the sweat and blood struggles of planting a church. But Joe and Stephen have been through it all.

Third, Square 1 is about planting Missional Churches. Missional churchesย want to do more than just have bigย buildings and Bible studies, but instead want toย embrace culture so it can be redeemed and transformed by the love of Jesus. Missional churches are churches that are on a mission to see the Gospel actually change lives. If all we do is talk, read, learn, and write about the Gospel, I don’t think we really understand it. Missional churches are trying to live the Gospel.

Finally, rather than just sit around and listen to speakers speak, we are actually going to go out and have some fun together!ย On Friday, our wives get to go shopping together, while we guys enjoy some male bonding. That night, all of us areย going to attend a Texas Ranger Baseball game. Try doing that at Exponential!

Space is really limited for this conference, so if you want to go, contact me for a brochure, or contact Joe and Stephen at Square 1.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

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Pussycat Preachers

By Jeremy Myers
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Pussycat Preachers

Heather Veitch Pussycat PreachersI read about this onย the MMI Weblog.

When young pastor Matt Brown announced he was supporting a ministry for women in the sex industry led by an x-stripper, he was expecting applause. Instead, he got cold stares and an e-mail inbox filled with angry letters. At issue was Heather Veitch, an x-stripper turned evangelist. She looked too much like a stripper and was leading Christian women into the dark world of strip clubs for so-called โ€œoutreach.โ€ Capturing it all, was documentary filmmaker Bill Day for his new film โ€œThe Pussycat Preacher.โ€

โ€œMost Christians know that Jesus spent time with prostitutes and tax collectors because that is where the word was needed. But believing the ideal is one thing and living the reality is another,โ€ says Day.

โ€œIf we all took a vote on being Biblical versus being respectable , we would all vote for Biblical,โ€ says theology expert Professor Sarah Sumner PhD from Azusa Pacific University in the film. โ€œBut the reality is many churches are more concerned with respectability.โ€

Pastor Greg Laurie from mega-church Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside was one of pastors who didnโ€™t believe Heatherโ€™s method of winning souls was worth the risk. He warned Brown to stay away from Veitch.

โ€œWhen a Pastor you look up to tells you something like that itโ€™s scary,โ€ Brown confesses. โ€œIโ€™m a pastor and I am supposed to love people. But I didnโ€™t love strippers. What Heather did was she birthed that in me and my congregation.โ€

Instead of backing away from Heather, Pastor Brown put up $50,000 of church money to support the ministry. But in no time at all, a rumor got started that the $50,000 was being used by Brown to buy lap dances for himself. Brown suddenly found himself on the verge of losing his church facility housed on the campus of Southern California Baptist University.

For her part, Heather Veitch claims she is winning souls and that is what matters. For evidence, she has the documentary which shows a number of strippers making their first venture into church. โ€œNow comes the hard part,โ€ Heather smiles.

Day says the film is not rated but very โ€˜โ€™PGโ€™โ€™ It has no nudity or offensive language. It isย available on DVD from Amazon.

What do you think about this kind of ministry? What do you think about Greg Laurie’s response? Is this kind of ministry too risky?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, evangelism, ministry, missions, strip club, strippers, witnessing

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A Life Prayer from Vince Antonucci

By Jeremy Myers
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A Life Prayer from Vince Antonucci

prayer lifeYesterday I introduced you to my life prayer.

After I wrote that post, I was reading some other blogs and found another prayer that would be a good life prayer.

It comes from Vince Antonucci. Here is what he wrote:

God, I want more.

I want to love, cry, smile. I want to be a radical. I want to pray. I want to sweat blood. I want to feel. I want intimacy. I want passion. I want power, resurrection power.

I want to see You. I want to touch Heaven. I want to hurt, to suffer.

I want to walk, run, and fly.

I want to scream. I want to rejoice. I want to laugh till I ache. I want to ache. I want to care.

I want to be in the rebellion. I want to lead the rebellion. I want to be the rebellion.

I want to live with reckless abandon. I want to be astonished and afraid. I want to dream. I want to see visions. I want to hear the clatter of dry bones coming together.

I want good friends. I want to love my enemies.

I want holiness. I want to experience the sacred, the divine.

I want to hallow Your name. I want to walk on water. I want to dance on water.

I want to touch the sick, I want to experience their pain, I want to heal them. I want truth. I want to be set free. I want to be hungry, and I want to be full.

I want the Spirit. I want to drink the Spirit. I want to be falling down drunk on the Spirit. I want guidance, direction, discernment, wisdom.

I want to be a warrior. I want to never look back, turn back, or go back. I want to attack. I

want to cause trouble. I want to induce fear. I want to turn the world upside down. I want to pour myself out and pour myself into today like there’s no tomorrow.

I want to be comforted. I want to thirst for righteousness. I want to be an agent of justice.

I want to shine. I want to blaze. I want to bathe in grace. I want beauty from my ashes.

I want to seek first the Kingdom, I want to bring the Kingdom, I want the Kingdom to fill me up and spill out of me. I want to carry the cross till my legs burn and my shoulder bleeds.

I want to see that the tomb is empty.

I want Jesus. Lifted up, easy to see, leading my life, overwhelming my life with His life.

I want Jesus. I want Jesus.

Thanks, Vince! I want that too.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, prayer, vince antonucci

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