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My review of Greg Boyd’s “Cross Vision”

By Jeremy Myers
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My review of Greg Boyd’s “Cross Vision”

Cross Vision Greg BoydGreg Boyd is out with a new book,  Cross Vision. I interviewed him yesterday about this book and his theology, and here is my review of his book.

Having read both Cross Vision and the longer 2-volume work, The Crucifixion of the Warrior God, I think that this shorter book should be the one you start with. Then, if you want more details, footnotes, and scholarly discussion, you can get the longer two-volume explanation.

As I read through the longer two-volume work, I found myself thinking about Cross Vision and what Greg Boyd should take out and leave in. While I liked the 2-volume work, I found much of it to be rather repetitive. He spent SO much time in The Crucifixion of the Warrior God (most of volume 1) defending the idea that the crucifixion of Jesus should be our guiding lens through which to read the entire Old Testament, including the violent portions of the Old Testament.

Most of Greg’s readers were probably already on board with this idea, and so this made much of what he wrote in the 2-volume work unnecessary. That is why this present volume, Cross Vision, is such a breath of fresh air.

What is GREAT about Cross Vision

In a concise and easy-to-read way, Greg Boyd presents the central ideas of his cruciform hermeneutic (how to read the Bible through the lens of Jesus Christ and Him crucified), while addressing some of the major issues related to this approach.

Also, this book includes more “illustrations” and stories than does the more scholarly work. This helps generate interest in the average reader and helps show why Greg’s cruciform hermeneutic is helpful for life, theology, and ministry.

There are so many other excellent things about his book. Just buy and read it. You’ll see.

My ONE Criticism of Cross Vision

As with the two-volume work, although I agree with nearly everything Greg writes in the book, I once again found myself disagreeing with the central idea … that God withdraws from Jesus on the cross, and therefore, in the violent portions of the OT, God is withdrawing Himself from the people and nations who experience/suffer violence.

While Greg is absolutely right that “something else is going on” in those violent texts, I do not think that the “something else” is that God is withdrawing from Jesus or from other people.

This doesn’t mean I reject the idea of understanding God and violent Scriptures through the cross of Christ. Far from it!

Yes, the Cruciform Hermeneutic is Correct

I too have a cruciform hermeneutic (which I refer to as crucivision), and I do not believe it is necessary to read Jesus’ statement from the cross “My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?” as a statement about God withdrawing from Jesus. Therefore, I do not believe that it is necessary to read the violent portions of the OT as God withdrawing from other people/nations.

I do not believe God ever withdraws from the objects of His love, whether it is Jesus or humans. Jesus said, “I will never leave you nor forsake you,” and since Jesus fully reveals God to us, then we must not say that God ever leaves us or forsakes us either. He did not forsake Jesus, and God does not forsake (or withdraw from) humans (See my book, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus for my view).

Anyway, … yes, read this book. You can buy Cross Vision on Amazon. I recommend you read it before the two-volume work, The Crucifixion of the Warrior God. Greg presents a spectacular vision of the love God has for all people, as revealed in the crucified Christ.

Greg is absolutely correct that we must understand God, Scripture, and life through the lens of Jesus Christ and Him crucified. But if you are uncomfortable with the idea that God withdraws when people need Him most, just recognize that there are other ways of understanding what happened to Jesus on the cross and what His crucifixion reveals about the violent portions of Scripture.

Have you read these books by Greg Boyd? What were your thoughts?

God is Redeeming Books, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Books I'm Reading, crucifixion of Jesus, cruciform, crucivision, Greg Boyd

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Hack the Theologian – Brian Zahnd

By Jeremy Myers
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Hack the Theologian – Brian Zahnd

This is part of an ongoing series where I briefly interview a theologian, pastor, author, or Bible scholar that I highly respect, and ask them to tell us a bit about themselves, their most current teaching project, and the one most important truth (the hack) they wish every Christian could learn.

I call the series “Hack the Theologian.” This doesn’t mean I think these theologians are hacks. Far from it! It means that I am trying to find (and share with you) the one thing that makes them tick, the one insight that keeps them writing and teaching, the one truth they are most passionate about, the one idea that turned their life and theology upside down. You can read the other posts in the series right here.

(Do you know an author I can highlight in this series? Have them contact me!)

So Let’s “Hack” Brian Zahnd

Brian ZahndBrian Zahnd is a pastor and author of numerous books. His newest book, Sinners in the Hand of a Loving God, is releasing on August 15. Since this is also my birthday, he clearly meant this as a birthday present to me…

Here are my questions to Brian Zahnd…

1. Can you tell us who you are and what you do in 40 words or less? (I put the word limit so we can see what you focus on.)

I’m the founding pastor of Word of Life Church in St. Joseph, Missouri. I’m also an author, speaker, an occasional mountain climber, and a pretty serious Dylanologist. My wife and I have led Word of Life for 35 years.

2. Tell us something about yourself that few people know.

I’m an introvert. (Though people who really know me know that.)

3. What is the best book you have read this past year? (It doesn’t have to be theological!)

Non-fiction: Patient Ferment of the Early Church by Alan Kreider
Fiction: Eyrie by Tim Winton

Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God4. You have a new book called Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God. Tell us a bit about it. What is the main point and what do you want people to learn or do?

In Sinners in the Hand of a Loving God I wrestle with the question of whether or not God is actually angry, violent, and retributive. I deal with the issues of the wrath of God, Old Testament violence, the violence of the cross, hell, and the seemingly violent nature of the book of Revelation. My desire is that Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God will help people read the Scriptures in the light of Christ.

5. Karl Barth was once asked to summarize his life’s work in one sentence. He answered, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” How would you summarize your life’s work? To put this question another way, if you could get people to understand just one idea, what would it be?

God is like Jesus. God has always been like Jesus. There has never been a time with God was not like Jesus; we haven’t always known this, but now we do.

Brian Zahnd’s new book is releasing tomorrow. I highly recommend you get a copy. Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God, is available on Amazon.

God is Redeeming Theology, Theology Hack Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Brian Zahnd, cruciform, hermeneutics, Jesus

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Hack the Theologian – Greg Boyd

By Jeremy Myers
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Hack the Theologian – Greg Boyd

This is part of an ongoing series where I briefly interview a theologian, pastor, author, or Bible scholar that I highly respect, and ask them to tell us a bit about themselves, their most current teaching project, and the one most important truth (the hack) they wish every Christian could learn.

I call the series “Hack the Theologian.” This doesn’t mean I think these theologians are hacks. Far from it! It means that I am trying to find (and share with you) the one thing that makes them tick, the one insight that keeps them writing and teaching, the one truth they are most passionate about, the one idea that turned their life and theology upside down. You can read the other posts in the series right here.

(Do you know an author I can highlight in this series? Have them contact me!)

So Let’s “Hack” Greg Boyd

Greg BoydGreg Boyd is the pastor of Woodland Hills Church in Minneapolis, MN, and author of numerous books, including his magnum opus, The Crucifixion of the Warrior God. His newest book, Cross Vision, is releasing on August 15. Since this is also my birthday, he clearly meant this as a birthday gift to me…

He also is putting on a conference about the topics of these books in September. I am attending the ReKnew Conference in September. If you live in the Minneapolis area, or are attending the ReKnew conference, let’s connect while I am there! Go here to register.

Here are Greg Boyd’s answers to my questions:

1. Can you tell us who you are and what you do in 40 words or less? (I put the word limit so we can see what you focus on.)

I am a pastor, theologian, professor, author, and public speaker. I’ve been married to Shelley Boyd for 38 years and we have three children and five grandchildren, and in my spare time I enjoy speed walking, speed metal, and drumming.

(Note: That was EXACTLY 40 words! Well done, Greg!)

2. Tell us something about yourself that few people know.

I have a phobia of sharp objects going into my eyes, to the point that I have trouble looking at any sharp object pointed in my direction, even when it’s on TV!

3. What is the best book you have read this past year? (It doesn’t have to be theological!)

N.T. Wright, The Day the Revolution Began

Cross Vision Greg Boyd4. You have a new book called Cross Vision. Tell us a bit about it. What is the main point and what do you want people to learn or do?

Cross Vision, teaches believers how to interpret the Old Testament’s violent portraits of God through the lens of the cross and to thereby see how these portraits bear witness to the self-sacrificial, non-violent, enemy-embracing love of God revealed on Calvary.

5. Karl Barth was once asked to summarize his life’s work in one sentence. He answered, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” How would you summarize your life’s work? To put this question another way, if you could get people to understand just one idea, what would it be?

All we need to know about God, ourselves, other people, and the world is found in the crucified Christ.

Greg Boyd’s new book is releasing tomorrow. I highly recommend you get a copy. Cross Vision, is available on Amazon.

God is Redeeming Theology, Theology Hack Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, cruciform, crucivision, Greg Boyd, hermeneutics

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Don’t become a Christian clone

By Jeremy Myers
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Don’t become a Christian clone

If Scripture reveals anything to us about people who live in light of the gospel, it is that the gospel does not make us into clones. The gospel is not about making Christian clones.

christian clones

Humanity consists of a wide diversity of people, which means that when the gospel is lived out in human life, it will take a wide diversity of forms and applications. … So be generous and gracious as different people live out the gospel in different ways.

Instead, the gospel calls out the best in people so that they can use their God-given strengths, talents, abilities, and desires to glorify God and further amplify the impact of the gospel in this world. The gospel, when rightly lived, will not cause all Christians to look, act, and talk the same, but will cause all Christians to celebrate their diversity and follow Jesus wherever He leads, even if it is in opposite directions.

The sooner we recognize this, the better off we’ll be. Gospel unity does not mean Gospel uniformity, but the willingness to allow gospel diversity.

Ministry Disagreements with Paul and Barnabas

Take Paul and Barnabas as an example. In their first missionary journey, they brought John Mark with them. But for various reasons, John Mark returned home before finishing the trip. Because of this, Paul insisted that John Mark not go with them on a second missionary journey, but Barnabas, being the encourager that he was, wanted to give John Mark a second chance. When they were not able to agree, Barnabas went off with John Mark and Paul chose Silas as his missionary companion (Acts 15:36-40).

So who was right and who was wrong?

The eventual answer of Scripture is that both were right. Paul and Silas get most of the attention in Acts, but John Mark later becomes very important and helpful to Paul (Col 4:10).

Apparently, God preferred to have two teams of people living out the gospel in opposite directions and in different ways than just one team. It is not that one person was right and one person was wrong. Both had different visions, plans, dreams, goals, and strengths, and God wanted each to use these differences in their own way to live out the gospel in the various ways He had called them.

How to live in unity with others

This idea might help various groups of Christians understand each other better and work together in peace and unity.

Christian diversityIf there is a local church where half the people want contemporary music and half want traditional hymns, both sides can stop accusing the other of cultural compromise or religious traditionalism and instead recognize that it takes all kinds of churches to reach all kinds of people, and that the two groups can either go their separate ways in peace.

Maybe God prefers to have two teams of people joyfully singing about the gospel in their own ways than to have one team of people where everybody is bitter, bored, and angry about the music that touches none of their hearts. The same sort of approach could be applied to nearly every divisive issue in the church.

The truth of the gospel is that when we live it out in our lives, there is no perfect, biblical blueprint that we are to model ourselves after. God needs all kinds of people to reach all kinds of people.

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The entire course is free for those who join my online Discipleship group here on RedeemingGod.com. I can't wait to see you inside the course!

God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: biblical living, Christian living, following Jesus, good news, gospel

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Hack the Theologian – Frank Viola

By Jeremy Myers
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Hack the Theologian – Frank Viola

This is part of an ongoing series where I briefly interview a theologian, pastor, author, or Bible scholar that I highly respect, and ask them to tell us a bit about themselves, their most current teaching project, and the one most important truth (the hack) they wish every Christian could learn.

I call the series “Hack the Theologian.” This doesn’t mean I think these theologians are hacks. Far from it! It means that I am trying to find (and share with you) the one thing that makes them tick, the one insight that keeps them writing and teaching, the one truth they are most passionate about, the one idea that turned their life and theology upside down. You can read the other posts in the series right here.

(Do you know an author I can highlight in this series? Have them contact me!)

So Let’s “Hack” Frank Viola

Frank violaFrank Viola is the author of numerous books and heads up an online discipleship group called “The Deeper Christian Life.” Here are Frank Viola’s answers to my questions:

1. Can you tell us who you are and what you do in 40 words or less?

Just an Italian guy who is captivated by Jesus and shares the same name as the MLB pitcher. Ever since I’ve been a Christian, I’ve known in my heart that there must be more. So my spiritual journey has been that of discovering the “more” and sharing my discoveries with others.

2. Tell us something about yourself that few people know.

I used to pitch in high school, and I was also the lead singer of an incredible music band. (Sadly, I never made the Majors — without counting in my dreams. The other Frankie V. did.)

3. What is the best book you have read this past year? (It doesn’t have to be theological!)

Shaped by Vision – the biography of T. Austin-Sparks (second time around).

4. You have a new book called There Must be More. Tell us a bit about it. What is the main point and what do you want people to learn or do?

Frank Viola Titan There Must be MoreWe are calling this monstrosity my Titan. It’s an oversized, 800-page, limited edition hardcover that contains over 380,000 words. It includes all of my published writings from 2008 – 2016, some of which were rejected by my publishers because they were too controversial. I (and others) regard the Titan to be more radical than Pagan Christianity, my 2008 book with George Barna. It’s also a robust follow-up to Pagan Christianity.

Here is what it covers and who it’s for:

Serious Reasons

  1. It’s for those who have read some (or all) of my other works and want some of my best writings that have never been printed, which go deeper into the themes.
  2. It’s for those who are part of a Christian community or plan to be in one. It includes my memoir about church and body life with dozens of lessons learned. It also addresses the dangers and the common problems, along with how to deal with them based on my experience in body life since 1988. It’s more detailed in this regard than any of my other works.
  3. It presents a fresh look at God’s eternal purpose and driving passion through the sections on “Magnificent Obsession” and “Rethinking the Mission.”
  4. It’s for any Christian who knows in their hearts, “There has to be more than this” (meaning, more than what they’ve been taught and what they’ve seen).
  5. It’s for those who are interested in a totally different take on the baptism of the Spirit and spiritual gifts than the Pentecostal view and the cessationist view.
  6. It’s for those who wish to have in print my critique of John MacArthur’s Strange Fire.
  7. It’s for those who desire to get a fresh perspective on Christ and His kingdom that will warm the heart, edify the spirit, and inspire the soul.
  8. It’s for those who want all of my unpublished writings in one place. The Table of Contents gives readers an easy way to navigate the content.
  9. It’s for those who wish to contribute toward helping some of the poor and sick people we are trying to help.

Humorous Reasons

  1. It’s for those who are looking for an excuse to buy a new coffee table (there’s a good chance that the Titan will break it immediately upon placement).
  2. It’s for those seeking a blunt force object for a time of need (who needs guns when you have a copy of the Titan on hand).
  3. It’s for those who are looking for a heavy, unmovable door stopper.
  4. It’s for those who own fireplaces and are looking for good kindling material that will burn for at least 8 hours (the 800 pages are constructed in such a way that they roast slowly).
  5. It’s for both my fans who desire to collect all my work. (My mother being one of them.)

5. Karl Barth was once asked to summarize his life’s work in one sentence. He answered, “Jesus loves me, this I know, for the Bible tells me so.” How would you summarize your life’s work? To put this question another way, if you could get people to understand just one idea, what would it be?

Jesus Christ is ALL, everything else is commentary.

The Titan will only be printed once and never again. It’s presently on discount until August 20th. Check it out and get your copy at ViolaTitan.com

God is Redeeming Theology, Theology Hack Bible & Theology Topics: Frank Viola, Jesus, pagan

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