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The Kingdom of God vs. The Kingdom of God

By Jeremy Myers
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The Kingdom of God vs. The Kingdom of God

We are working our way through several of the views about how to understand the violence of God in the Old Testament in light of the love and mercy taught and exemplified by Jesus Christ in the New Testament.

One view is that such an attempt is futile from the start because it is like comparing apples and oranges.

We must not equate what Jesus was trying to accomplish in His life and ministry with what God was trying to accomplish through Israel in the Old Testament. The two events had different goals and different methods, and trying to fit them together is like trying to put a square into a round hole.

Jesus, it is argued, was trying to set up a spiritual kingdom, governed by the rule and reign of God within menโ€™s hearts. In the Old Testament however, God was trying to set up an earthly kingdom, one that had rulers and laws with a system of taxation, government, and military might.

Kingdom of God

The Kingdom of God in Israel

In a world like ours, countries need military might and wartime violence to establish borders, maintain peace and security against invading armies, and protect itself from crime and revolutionaries within its borders. In this view, since Israel was a theocracy, God, as the โ€œCommander in Chiefโ€ sent Israel to war against her enemies. He gave the order to kill, destroy, and annihilate those who threatened the earthly government which He installed in Israel.

The Kingdom of God in Jesus

Jesus, on the other hand, came to install a Kingdom that was โ€œnot of this worldโ€ (John 8:23; 18:36) and therefore, did not need to issue commands for His followers to kill others for their common cause. The Kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom, and as such, our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and powers of the air (Eph 6:10-20).

So just as it would seem to be impossible for any earthly government to exist without a standing military, without violence toward enemies, and without governing rules for order and peace which include death to traitors and some form of capital punishment, so also God had to include such things in the earthly government which He set up in Israel. But Jesus had different goals and different methods, and so He was able to show a way of peace and non-violence toward His enemies, and call His disciples to do the same, for His Kingdom is not of this world.

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: When God Pled Guilty

What if the Bible is a Myth?

By Jeremy Myers
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What if the Bible is a Myth?

This month’s synchroblog challenges us to ask the question: “What ifย some or all of the biblical narrative is not necessarily true history, but is myth of one sort or another?” In other words, what if the Bible is a myth?

I have considered a similar question before: What if Jesus Did not Rise?ย and my answer to whether or not the Bible is myth follows the same logic as in that post.

If the Bible is a Myth, it is a TRUE Myth

I believe that even if the entire Bible is a myth, it would be truer than most historical facts.

Some people say that the Bible is nothing but a myth, but there is no such thing as “nothing” but a myth.

Any good story is far more powerful to change lives and direct history than the most provable scientific or theological fact. This is one reason the Bible is a story rather than a book of theological facts.

If the Bible is a myth, then we have no way of knowing if there is a God, or what happens after death, or how humanity came into being. (Evenย withย the Bible, the answers to those last two questions are anything but certain.) If the Bible is a myth then while a man named Jesusย mightย have lived, he probably certainly was not God, and while he might have died as a criminal on the cross, he most likely did not rise from the dead.

And if all of that could indisputably and unquestionably be verified as historical fiction, if it could be undeniably proven that the Bible is a myth, then you know what I would do? I would shrug my shoulders, and continue living as I have been.

Even if the Bible is a myth, the truth that is contained within the Bible is some of the greatest truth that has ever been put onto paper. Even if the Bible is a myth, the Bible is still true!

Let me put it another way. Would you say that Aesop’s Fables are true?

Well, of course they are true! But they are not “true” in that they did not actually happen in recorded history. In that sense, they are “myths.” They are “fables.” But they are some of the truest fables ever told for they provide insights into human activity, provide guidance on proper living, helping the reader make right choices.

Even if the Bible is a myth, it would function in a similar way.

The Bible is True, but HOW is it True?

The Bible is true, not so much because it is fact (which I believe to be true), but because it does what it claims to do, that is, change lives for the better.ย If you look at the history of humanity, the culturesย and eras where lives have been affected most positively for the good are the cultures and erasย where the Bible has been taught and followed.

Oh sure, there is great evil that has been done because of the Bible as well, but that is true of every holy book in existence, so in that regard, the Bible as a myth would be just like is just like any other myth-filled religious literature.

the Bible is a MythBut when it comes to the positive benefits that have come to the world, it is an indisputable fact that great advances in medicine, science, equality, health, art, music, prosperity, longevity, and numerous other positive traits have existed most where the Bible is taught and followed best. And as cultures that have the Scriptures begin to abandon them (as is happening in Western culture), that society begins to degenerate once again toward lawlessness.

If the Bible is a myth, it would be the truest and most helpful myth ever written, and I would still read it, study it, teach it, and try to follow it… especially the parts about Jesus, for He (even if he didn’t really exist) represents the truest way to be human.

Everybody recognizes that Jesus was a great teacher, and lived an exemplary life, even those who do not believe the Scriptures are true. Even atheists say that Jesus was a good man and provides a great example for people to follow. People who hate Christians and despise the church, still love Jesus and what He stood for.

So what would change in my life if it turned out that the Bible is a myth? Nothing!

If the Bible is a myth, would your life change? Mine would not, for even if the Bible is a myth, it would be the truest myth ever written.


This post was part of the April Synchroblog. Here is a list of other contributors. Go check them all out!

  • K.W. Leslie โ€“ย When People Believe Christianity Is A Myth
  • David Derbyshire โ€“ย What If Genesis Is A Creation Myth?
  • Bud Brown โ€“ย What if Paul was wrong about the life of Christ living in me?
  • Chris Jefferies โ€“ย What If โ€ฆ Creation Was A Myth?
  • Paul W. Meier โ€“ย Is The Bible A Myth?
  • damannwrite โ€“ย The Bible As A Source of Wisdom
  • Phil Lancaster โ€“ย What If the Bible Were A Myth
  • Carol Kuniholm โ€“ย What If Newness Was The Norm
  • Liz Dyer โ€“ย Penultimate Truth
  • Glenn Hager – Myths in the Bible? So What?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: bible, bible is a myth, synchroblog, Theology of the Bible, truth

Which God Do You Know?

By Jeremy Myers
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Which God Do You Know?

This is a Guest Post from Tyson Phillips. Tyson and his sister Tammy grew up in the Midwest. Tyson and his family now live discreetly on the West Coast, very near a large orchid tree.

If you would like to write a guest post for this blog,ย check out the guidelines here.

Everybody thinks they know, love, and serve the “right” God. But do they? Which God do you know and serve?

The Angry God

angry godIn those writings most Christians refer to as the Old Testament, we find a God who bears a striking resemblance to the gods of the nations that surrounded ancient Israel. Anger him and you suffered (poor crops, infertility, death at the hand of the enemy, the earth opened and swallowed you). Please him and you were blessed (good crops, many children, victory in battle).

Dare to venture too close to that God and you would be struck dead. Remember the sons of Abinadab who touched the ark when the oxen stumbled (“the Lord almighty, who is enthroned between the chrerubim that are on the ark”), and were struck dead. Remember the Holy of Holies. Only the High Priest may enter, and then only under extremely restricted conditions. Any who violated those restrictions were struck dead.

The God of Love

Is it possible for us to see a God who by his actions said, “You don’t have it quite right. I am not exactly who you think I am. Therefore I will come and walk among you, heal your diseases and teach you who I really am”? The Jesus of the New Testament differs remarkably from the God portrayed in the Old Testament.

God of Love in Jesus Christ

Yet we believe God is unchanging. If that is the case, what must have changed is our understanding of God. Rather than a God who was supposedly behind everything bad that happened (dishing out punishment, judgment or whatever you want to call it), we find the God who loves, the God who freely gives grace and fellowship with himself.

Mixed Messages

We must remember that those who wrote the books of the New Testament had been schooled in the God of the Old Testament. Even those who had walked with Jesus had not forgotten that God. Do not vestiges of that God appear in their writings?

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: guest post, Theology of God

What if the Bible was Fiction?

By Jeremy Myers
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What if the Bible was Fiction?

If you are a blogger, one of the keys to getting more traffic and readers is getting other bloggers to mention you and your blog on their websites. There are numerous ways of doing this, such as commenting on people’s blogs, writing Guest Posts, and joining blogchains and Synchroblogs.

My favorite Synchroblog is found at synchroblog.wordpress.com, and I participate every single month. This month’s topic looks particularly interesting, and I invite all bloggers to join in.

Here are the steps:

  1. Write a post about the topic by April 16th.
  2. Put up a link to your post on the Synchroblog website.
  3. When the link list is published, add it to your post.
  4. Interact with the other writers on their posts.

It’s that simple!

What? You don’t have a blog yet? Yikes! Start one today!

Here is why I am inviting you to participate this month. The topic is…

What if the Bible is a Myth?

Bible FictionHere is the description:

When I was young, I loved to play the โ€˜what ifโ€™ game.ย  It went like this:ย  I would imagine an unlikely scenario and present it to my mother to find out what she thought.ย  Since I had an active imagination, I engaged in this til I drove her to distraction and she would declare, โ€œNo more โ€˜what ifsโ€™!!โ€ย  Now that Iโ€™m older, Iโ€™ve discovered there is a whole group of people who play the โ€˜what ifโ€™ game.ย  Theyโ€™re called philosophers!

This month we invite you to play the โ€˜what ifโ€™ game with us.ย  Try to imagine that some or all of the Bible narrative is not necessarily true history, but is myth of one sort or another.ย  What sort of effect would that knowledge have on your faith?ย  What effect might it have on the larger church?ย  How would it change you?ย  Would it change you and how you view the world?

We recognize that this might make some or all of you uncomfortable and while we recognize the struggle involved with that sort of discomfort, please feel free to blog about that fact as well.ย  The โ€˜what ifโ€™ game can involve some prickly feelings and we welcome that as well.

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Blogging

The Best Bible Translation

By Jeremy Myers
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The Best Bible Translation

best bible translationWhat is your favorite Bible translation? NIV? ESV? KJV? NAS? RSV?

When you read the Bible, do you like hardcover, softcover, or leather bound?

Do you like the words of Jesus in red letters?

Do you get your Bible engraved?

Do you buy a cover?

Do you get the special Bible marking pens and highlighters?

Me? NKJV, hardcover, no, no, yes, yes.

But here is a video that really made me rethink what the best Bible translation really is. It was sent to me by my sister who works to bring Bible translations to unreached people groups in other parts of the world.

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Theology of the Bible

God-Inspired Error

By Jeremy Myers
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God-Inspired Error

Inerrant errorsHow do you understand the violent portrayals of God in the Old Testament, especially in light of the love and mercy revealed in Jesus Christ?

We are working our way through some of the theories regarding this biblical dilemma, before I eventually propose an idea of my own (for your theological target practice). The view for this post is this:

God-Inspired Error

One view is that theย descriptions of God in the Old Testament are accurate descriptions of what people wrongly believed. That is, the Bible is an inerrant guide to the bad theology some people had during the Old Testament era, and now that Jesus has come, we can see where and how they were wrong. The Bible includes these ideas, not to encourage us to emulate and copy their thinking and their actions, but to show us how their incorrect theology led to poor actions and destructive behavior.

In this way, much of the Old Testament is not a positive example to follow, but a negative example to avoid. It is not showing us what we should believe and do, but is showing us what people in the past thought about God and what they did as a result, and now that Jesus has come and shown us what God isย reallyย like, we can follow His example inย not followingย the example of much of what the Old Testament says.

Different people who hold this view have different ideas about how involved God was in the whole process of the inspiration of the Hebrew Scriptures. Some believe that God inspired the human authors to write incorrect theology and ideas about Himself so that later generations could see the damaging effects of bad theology, while others think inspiration has little to do with it, and the human authors simply recorded what theyย thoughtย God was saying and telling them to do, even though they were incorrect in what they thought.

When read this way, the Bible is not exactly an accurate record of what peopleย shouldย believe, but instead, an accurate record of what peopleย didย believe

The Bad Theology of Job’s Four Friends

This view sounds pretty far-fetched until you actually begin to realize that many passages of Scripture function in exactly this way. Take the book of Job as an example.

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: When God Pled Guilty

Is God Bipolar?

By Jeremy Myers
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Is God Bipolar?

As we slowly move toward a proposal for why the God of the Old Testament commanded the Israelites to engage in warfare against the the Canaanites, I am laying out some of the views that people have on this tough issue.

One rare view is that the name “Yahweh” in the Hebrew Scriptures represents two different beings: Jesus and Satan. When reading the Bible, the word “Yahweh” can sometimes refer to Jesus Christ and other times depicts Satan. See this article for a more complete explanation: Forgotten Key to Old Testament.

Apparently, one of the basic premises of this view is that ancient Israel cosmology had not yet developed to the point of being able to discern the difference between Yahweh and Satan. Ancient people, it is taught, believed that God was behind everything that happened, and so sometimes wrongly attributed the works of the devil to Yahweh. Today, since we know the difference between God and Satan, we can use the revelation we have received in Jesus Christ to tell the difference.

So according to this view, whenever we see Yahweh mentioned in Scripture (translated as Lord in most Bibles), we should use the revelation of Jesus Christ in the Gospels to determine whether Yahweh is referring to Jesus or to the devil. If Yahweh is doing, saying, or commanding something that appears evil, then Yahweh is the devil, but if Yahweh is doing, saying, or commanding something that looks like Jesus, then in these cases Yahweh is Jesus.

Proponents of this view do not argue that Yahweh is both good and evil, but that the term Yahweh represents two different beings, Jesus and Satan, and we must use later revelation in Scripture to determine when Yahweh refers to one or the other. God Himself, of course, is always loving and just, but sometimes the human authors of Scripture confused the true God as revealed in Jesus Christ with the actions of Satan in history, and referred to the actions of both as coming from “Yahweh.”

I, frankly, am opposed to this view.

Bipolar God

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Allegorical Genocide

By Jeremy Myers
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Allegorical Genocide

Canaanite Genocide

We are working our way through some of the views about how God could command theย Israelitesย to kill and annihilate various people groups as theyย enteredย Canaan.

The bottom of this post contains links to some of the other views we have looked at so far. After I get through summarizing the views, I will present my own view, which (so far) I have not read anywhere else.

The view in this post isย quite similar to the view which believes the Bible is wrong.ย Christians who hold this view simply cannot believe that the God revealed in Jesus Christ would do the things that Yahweh is said to be doing in the Old Testament. Those descriptions of God are clearly wrong.

But whereas the people who hold the previous view state that the Bible is in error, there are other Christians who argue that these passages are not in error, they just should not be interpreted literally. Instead, they must be understood allegorically. The tough texts of the Hebrew Scriptures which have God commanding Israel to go kill men, women, children, and animals are taken out of their historical context, and are given spiritual meaning which fits with what we find in the New Testament.

Allegorical Interpretation was Popular in the Early Church

This view was the dominant view of the Early Church Fathers, and is how most of them taught and understood these Old Testament texts.

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God, Violence, and Atheism

By Jeremy Myers
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God, Violence, and Atheism

Atheism Violence and GodAs I try to move toward an idea about how to understand the violent portrayals of God in the Hebrew Scriptures, I posted two introductory posts on the subject, here and here, and then had planned to present my thesis….

As a result of those two posts, I received numerous emails and Facebook messages from people who had their own theories which I did not cover. Thank you for sending these in!

Of course, I always think that if one or two people have a question about something I wrote, dozens more probably have the same question and just didn’t write in or leave a comment.

By my most recent check of email and Facebook, I have eight additional views!

So in an attempt to be fair (and in a way that I hope will not bore you), I decided to spend several more posts looking at other ideas about how to understand the violentย portrayalsย of God in the Bible, before finally getting to a post that reveals my idea.

One of the things that I hope this series of posts accomplish is to show you how difficult the problem is, and how creative some of the “solutions” get. This problem has not been “solved” and will likely not be solved by me either. But through my posts I hope to move the conversation in a particular direction, so that maybe together we can come up something that raises appreciation for God rather than alarm.

A Violent God Does Not Exist Because No God Exists

So one view which almost everyone is aware of, but which I neglected to write about in my previous posts, is the view of atheism.

When dealing with the problem of violent portrayals of God in Scripture, some simply say that the Old Testament is wrong in its most basic premise, namely, that God exists.

This is the view of atheists who argue that there is no way a God of love could command the Israelites to do the things they do in Scripture, and there is also no way a God of love could send the flood, the plagues, and the other natural disasters that are described in the Old Testament, and so the best option is simply to believe that God does not exist, and that the people who wrote these texts ascribing these actions to God were simply deluded.

Just like the ancient Mesopotamian people had creation myths, and the Egyptians had tales about Amun, Ra, Seth, and the rest of their gods, and the Babylonians, Assyrians, Greeks, and Romans all developed their various pantheistic beliefs to explain weather patterns and the movement of the sun and stars across the sky, and why bad things happen to some people, so also, the Israelites developed and invented their own โ€œfairy talesโ€ to describe events and situations in their life which they did not understand or comprehend.

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Looking for the Image of God in Others

By Jeremy Myers
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Looking for the Image of God in Others

The Image of God in ManHowever we understand the Imago Dei, the image of God in which humans were created, most of us would agree that all people were created in Godโ€™s image.

While some might argue that those who are not in relationship with their creator have lost that image, as is evidenced by what we may believe to be their obvious sin, many of us have come to another conclusion โ€“ that all people continue to bear the image of God in some sense.

Rather than look for the signs of peopleโ€™s brokenness, we choose to look for the image of God in them, and in turn love and honor them not only for who they are, but also for the potential of who they can be in Christ.

Regardless of the condition and situation in which we find any person, we choose (as Jesus himself advised) to love them, and look for whatever we may find of the image of God in them. Regardless of their age, race, physical condition, economic situation, gender, apparent moral or religious position, we choose to love that person.

Practical Application

On the face of the matter, this appears to be a completely idiotic approach. That fellow voted for the wrong guy in the last election, he cheats on his wife, is dishonest in business, drinks like a fish, doesnโ€™t go to church, has crazy religious ideas, and his neighbor tells me he may be gay! Only a total idiot would love and honor such a person.

Iโ€™m quite sure Jesus would approve if I told everyone I know what a nasty piece of work that fellow is. I should be certain to tell all the folks at church so we can confront him with Bible verses that will prove how wrong he is. Itโ€™s our responsibility. That way he will know he is going to hell. Obviously somewhere along the line that fellow lost Godโ€™s image.

Impractical Application

On the other hand, I can choose to spend some time getting to know that fellow, try to build a relationship with him and love him. Rather than point out what I believe to be his sins, I will look for what I can find of Godโ€™s image in him, and will honor him in every way I can. Regardless of what I discover about him, I will learn to love him and let him know I care about him and love him.

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