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What if you were God? How Would you Set up Church?

By Jeremy Myers
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What if you were God? How Would you Set up Church?

As I try to dream and imagine what kind of “church” model best fits my personality and the cultural and historical context in which I find myself, I have slowly yet systematically stripped away everything I know and believe about how church has been traditionally done, and even how it is being done in the most innovative and progressive churches of our day.

In the process, I have found one question to be more helpful than anything else. It is a helpful question in developing a vision for church, but a dangerous question due to where it might lead. Do you want to ask it?

First, before you can ask the question, you have to clear your mind of everything you think you know about church. Start with as blank a slate as possible. Then, you have think about everything you know about God’s character: His mercy, love, grace, righteousness, and justice. You have to be willing to let people be people. You cannot coerce people, or force them to do what you want.

With “church” gone, and your mind filled with the character of God, ask yourself this question:

If I were God, how would I want church to look?

In other words, if you were God, and you were dreaming up how you wanted the church to be, and what you wanted the church to do in this world, how would it look? Since all power and knowledge are at my disposal, how would “church” look? What instructions would you provide?

if you were godWhat non-negotiables would you require? What would be the best way for God to expand His rule over the earth?

Once you have done this sort of brainstorming, look at your description.

That is the kind of church God wants you to be. You have just discovered what God might want to do in this world through you.

When Jesus came to this earth, He came to reveal God to us, and when He left, He told us to do the same thing. We need to reveal God to the world, and live like God to the world, to live the way we think God would live.

This way of visioning the church can also be applied to other theological and missional questions which are not necessarily about the church, but about God’s work in the world. For example, let’s say that you want to end global poverty. How would you do it if you were God? Rain down money from the sky? Is free money really the answer for the world’s poor? Maybe there is a better, wiser way to end global poverty. If so, what is that better way?

None of this, of course, means that your answers are the right answers, or that your solutions are the best way forward. But this process gets you thinking in a visionary way. 

Here is a video where people ask this sort of question. Interestingly, God has actually done some of the things the people suggest… but the most beautiful thing about the video is to see their eyes light up and wonder about the possibility.

Guess what? By trying to do some of the things we imagine God should be doing, God is actually doing those things through us!

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: be the church, being the church, church, missional, Theology of the Church

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Realistic Images of Jesus

By Jeremy Myers
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Realistic Images of Jesus

Before reading this blog post, go do a Google search for images of Jesus. Take note of what you see, then come back here.

Images of Jesus Online

If your image search returned the same sort of images of Jesus that my image search returned, you probably saw a bunch of images of Jesus like this:

Images of Jesus Gallery

And then, of course, you have the weird and wacky images of Jesus…

Images of Jesus

And let us not forget the food appearance images of Jesus…

food images of Jesus
food appearance of Jesus

What I would like to see sometime is some realistic images of Jesus.

And no, Megyn Kelly, Jesus probably wasn’t white (or with blue eyes). Of course, He wasn’t black either. And whatever color His skin was, He didn’t glow.

images of Jesus

Frankly, I have no idea what Jesus looked like, but even these images of Jesus are probably pretty far off the mark:

From Scripture, it seems to me that Jesus would not stand out in a crowd. He wouldn’t have a glow around his head, he wouldn’t be taller or cleaner than everyone else, His clothes wouldn’t be shining white. His face probably wasn’t perfectly clean or his teeth sparkling white. His eyes weren’t piercing or his complexion smooth.

I wish that artistic renderings of Jesus would make Him look more…. like the rest of us. Drab, boring, slightly unkept.

images of Jesus laughingThe thing that attracted people to Jesus was not His beauty, His eyes, His stature, His glowing clothes, or angelic halo. He had none of these things.

The thing that attracted people to Jesus was His love, acceptance, and forgiveness.

Do you want to know what Jesus looks like?

Images of Jesus in the World

He looks like you when you wash the dishes for your spouse, when you give up that television show to help your child with homework, when you take a plate of cookies to your neighbor, when you mow the lawn for the shut-in lady across the street, when you give food and water to the homeless downtown, when you give of your time and money to help anybody in need. When you do these things, you are the image of Jesus in the world today.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: being the church, following Jesus, images of Jesus, Jesus, looks like Jesus, Theology of Jesus, Theology of the Church

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Biblical Illiteracy is Not a Problem

By Jeremy Myers
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Biblical Illiteracy is Not a Problem

OK, OK, despite the title of this post, I fully admit that the vast majority of modern day Christian are biblically illiterate.

Biblical Illiteracy

Most cannot name the books of the Bible or find Scripture verses when asked. Shockingly few know how many apostles there were, or how many plagues, and what the difference is between Noah and Moses, or John the Baptist and John the Apostle. Aside from some of these historical facts of Scripture, the vast majority have no clue about the major teachings of Scripture regarding the Gospel, the atonement, the church, the Trinity, or most of the other central doctrines of the Bible.

But guess what?

Biblical illiteracy is not a problem

I believe that Biblical illiteracy is not a problem. Widespread biblical illiteracy is not that big of a deal to me.

Biblical illiteracy is not a problem. Theย real problemย is that Christians don’t even put into practice the little tiny bit of Scripture knowledge we do have!

As I wrote previously, the entire Bible can be summed up in 24 words:

You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, your soul, your strength, and your mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.

The problem is not that people don’t know the Bible. The problem is that we don’t even follow or practice the little bits we do know.

Jesus said that the entire law and prophets were summed up with those words above (cf. Matthew 22:37-40; Mark 12:30-31; Luke 10:27-28).

If we do not even attempt to love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength, or make any attempt to love our neighbors as we love ourselves, we do not need more Bible knowledge crammed into our heads.

We don’t need more Bible facts; we just need to get out and put our love of God into practice by showing love to others.

Loving Others

For most of us, this begins at home with showing sacrificial love to our spouse and children. It means giving up our desires and needs to help achieve the hopes and dreams of those in our family.

biblical illiteracy not the problemSomewhere along the way, showing love to others requires that we also show love to our neighbors. It is a tragic reality of most Christians that while we spend hours at church hearing and studying about loving and serving the community, very few followers of Jesus know the names of the people who live in the homes on either side of them, let alone the needs, worries, and concerns that they have about their health, they job, their marriage, their children, or their finances. So along with loving our families, we can also making loving our neighbors a high priority.

I believe that while we are loving others, it is then that God helps bring greater insight and understanding to the Scriptures. It is while we are loving our neighbors that the stories and doctrines and facts about Scripture come to life. It is while we are loving others that the Holy Spirit illuminates our ย mind with the meaning, intent, and proper application of ย the Bible.

If the church wants to combat the increasing biblical illiteracy of our modern age, the solution is not more teaching, but more loving.ย 

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: being the church, Bible Study, learn the Bible, love others, loving neighbors

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How to Host a Halloween Party

By Sam Riviera
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How to Host a Halloween Party

Every year on Halloween, rather than go down to a local church for a “Hallelujah Party” or hide out in our house with our lights turned off, we host a big Halloween party for our entire neighborhood. This is another practical way we have shared the love of Jesus with our neighbors. (To get more outreachย ideas by email,ย enter your email address at the bottom of the post.)

The day before Halloween we hand out quarter sheets of orange paper in the neighborhood, inviting neighbors to join us at dusk.

Here are some of the things we do:

Build A Fire In The Driveway

On Halloween night, we take our iron chiminea and put it on the driveway. Then we build a fire, put a circle of chairs around it, and hand out candy to the trick-or-treaters on the driveway.

We have also started to invite the neighbors to join us.

Last year, we put out a big pot of chili. And of course, chili needs cornbread to go with it. And since the night can be chilly, we put out hot cider and hot chocolate. While weโ€™re at it, we make a few batches of our Secret Recipe Cookies.

Pumpkins, Cats, and Candy

halloweenWe fill a large bowl with candy bars. Sometimes there is a neighbor who will not get home from work until later in the evening, and she gives us a package of candy to hand out for her. In addition to the circle of chairs, we set up tables to hold the food and carved pumpkins, fiber-optic pumpkin heads, and cats.

People start showing up just after dusk. We light the fire and people gravitate to the food tables and the chairs around the fire. Several neighbors bring their bowls of candy to hand out to trick-or-treaters on our driveway instead of at their houses. A few also bring food and drinks to share.

Some people stay all evening. Some only stay for a short while, eating a bowl of chili, and chatting with friends and neighbors. Others came by with their children, greet a neighbor or two, grab a cookie or cup of hot cider, and continue accompanying their children on their trick-or-treating rounds.

Tricking Our Neighbors?

Did we do this so we could invite people to a Bible study, church service, or give them Christian literature? โ€“ Never! People can smell this sort of fake evangelism a mile off. Don’t befriend people just to invite them to church.

We do this so we can get to know our neighbors better, and so they can get to know each other better. Weโ€™re learning to love our neighbors like Jesus, and before we can do that, we have to get to know them.

halloweenAnd we do! Simply by spending time with, eating with them, and sharing life with them, we get to know them. Inevitably, we have conversations about life โ€“ including the meaning of life and its problems and where God is in all of that, hopes, needs and a variety of other issues. These all take place before, during, and after these events.

What A Great Neighborhood!

Do people want community? In our experience most people definitely do.

After last year’s Halloween party, several people at the Halloween party commented that their friends and relatives have said they wish they lived in our neighborhood, a neighborhood where people know each other and have neighborhood parties. One of our friends who does not live in the neighborhood commented this week โ€œWhat a great neighborhood!โ€

People often say, “You need to go to church to be in community.” I say, “We are the church, in our community!”

We are the church as we get to know our neighbors, live in community with them, and show them the love of Jesus.

Weโ€™re learning to love our neighbors and help them in places where they need help, in places where we are able to help. Weโ€™re helping build community, a community where people know each other and care about each other, a community where people talk about inconsequential things as well as about really important things, including Jesus.

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God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: be the church, being the church, church growth, Discipleship, evangelism, guest post, Halloween, looks like Jesus, love like Jesus, loving neighbors, neighbors, Sam Riviera

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Religious Conversations vs. Spiritual Conversations

By Jeremy Myers
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Religious Conversations vs. Spiritual Conversations

talking about GodWhen someone finds out you are a Christian, how do they respond?

As Wendy and I talk with people in our neighborhood, at the store, or down at the park, it often seems thatย the discussion comes back around to “religion.”ย Maybe someone asks what brought us to Oregon, and when they find out I am a chaplain, the subject moves to religion. Or maybe they find out that I used to be a pastor. Orย maybe one of our girls is singing “Jesus Loves Me” at the top of her voice.

Anyway, however it comes up, Wendy and I have noticed that there areย four basic responses.

Antagonistic Response

A very small percentage of people get somewhat antagonistic and imply that we are crazy for believing in God and the Bible.

Wendy and I are not offended or put off by this kind of response, and we are generally able to have great conversations with these people. The conversations are not always about Jesus or the Gospel, but that’s okay. We’re not trying to cram Jesus or the Bible down anybody’s throat.

Usually we find that the criticisms and concerns these people have with Christianity (and religion in general) are the exact same criticisms and concerns we have. Acknowledging and agreeing with their concerns often leads to a great conversation about Jesus.

Avoidance Response

About half of the people who hear the words “Jesus,” “seminary,” “pastor,” or “church”ย just want to avoid talking about religion, and quickly change the subject. That’s understandable, especially in light of many of the common “evangelistic” techniques that are popular today.

If they don’t want to talk about such things, neither do we. We aren’t one of those “Christians” who have to turn every conversation around to Jesus (e.g. “Oh, it’s your daughter’s birthday? Cool! You know who has a birthday on December 25th?”).

We always allow the other person to determine how much or how little they want to talk about spiritual matters. If someone simply doesn’t want to talk about God, Scripture, or Jesus, then neither do we.

Religious Response

Around 25% of the people respond positively by telling us how involved they are in church.

Generally, when they hear that we are followers of Jesus, they tell us what church they go to, how faithfully they attend,ย and how involved they are. I call this a religious response because they seem to want to emphasize to me that they are performing their religious duty.

god in every conversationFrankly, I have the hardest time connecting with these people, because once they know I have been a “religious” leader, it seems that all they want to do is talk about devoted and dedicated they are. I find that I am often the one trying to change the subject to sports or the weather, but they keep bringing it back to their own religious efforts (e.g. “Yes, it is hot, and I’m so glad, because I prayed for good weather today.”)

Quite often, these people quickly get around to asking where we attend church. I have struggled with how to answer this question for many years, because while we do not officially “attend church,” we feel that we are more involved with the Church than ever before, and are following Jesus in a more relational way than we ever did as regular church attenders or church leaders.

So now we simply say that we are trying to follow Jesus in a deeply relational way and that right now, we are taking a break from attending church so that we can allow God to lead us into what He wants for us. This is not only the truth, but it also avoids any sort of heated discussion about “forsaking the assembling of yourselves together.”

Usually, of course, when the person hears that we do not currently “attend church,” they immediately invite us to attend theirs. We never turn them down or say no, but thank them for the invitation, and tell them we will keep it in mind.

Again, the goal is not to convince them to leave their church or understand what we are doing and why. Since nobody persuaded or convinced us to follow Jesus the way we do now, I am pretty sure I can not persuade or convince others to do the same. Hopefully, the conversation I had with this person will lead to future conversations as well.

Relationshipย Response

One of the responses I enjoy the most comes from people who seem to haveย a relationship with God, but who may or may not attend a church. In fact, with these people, church rarely comes up.

I find that they are not too concerned about telling me all that they are doing for God in church. They are not focused on their own performance. Instead, they focus on how God is at work in their life, what He is teaching them, and where He has shown up in miraculous ways.

Sometimes they are apologetic about not “attending church” and I am able to affirm and encourage them that I don’t “attend church” either, but am able to follow Jesus in a more relational way just as they are.

Since some of these people have never heard a former pastor and seminary student praise them for “leaving the church,” this often launches us into a conversation about Jesus and religion.

Not all Conversations are “Religious” … but all are Spiritual

Do not misunderstand. The vast majority of my conversations with other people during my week have nothing whatsoever to do with Jesus, God, church, or the Bible. We talk about sports, work, family, politics, current events, or whatever.

I sometimes think that Christian writers and speakers give the wrong impression with stories like the ones I have shared above. People who read such articles think that if they are truly following Jesus, they need to be having spiritual conversations every day with people.

That is not true.

religious conversationsWell … actually … it is true.

You ARE having spiritual conversations with people every day, even if you don’t talk about Jesus, God, Scripture, or church.

When you begin to understand what life and church really looks like as a follower of Jesus outside of the framework of religion, you begin to see that everything is spiritual, every act is devotion, and every conversation is full of God.

Look at it this way: God is a relational being, and He created us for relationship, and so if you are building a relationship with somebody through a conversation you are having with them, or a way you are encouraging them to show them that you love them, then you ARE being spiritual.

Things get “religious” when we feel that we have to introduce God, Jesus, the Bible, or the church into every conversation.

When it comes to people who claim a connection with God, there are religious people and relational people.

Religious people focus on what they are doing for God and how they can force God into every conversation and relationship.

Relational people, on the other hand, focus on what God has done for them, and know that God is already in every conversation and relationship (even if He is not mentioned), so they can just love and enjoy the person standing in front of them right now.

The most spiritual conversations you will have are never planned or prepared. They don’t take place in a circle where everyone has a Bible in their lap. No, they take place at the grocery store, down at the park, with your neighbor over the back fence.

You do not need to go out looking for spiritual conversations with others. Instead, just recognize that the conversations you are already having ARE spiritual.

Check out this quote from David Bosch’s book Transforming Mission:

Kingdom people seek first the Kingdom of God and its justice; church people often put church work above concerns of justice, mercy, and truth. Church people think about how to get more people into the church; Kingdom people think about how to get the church into the world. Church people worry that the world might change the church; Kingdom people work to see the church change the world (p. 378. He is quoting Howard Snyder, Liberating the Church ).

That is similar to what I am trying to present here.

What are your experiences with having conversations with others about God and church? Do the four categories I present above pretty much fit your experience as well? What about this idea of not having to force God into every conversation? Does it make sense to realize that He is already in every conversation? What might you add to this description?

God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: being the church, Discipleship, evangelism, relationships, Theology of the Church

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