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The Atheist-Sensitive Church

By Jeremy Myers
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The Atheist-Sensitive Church

Jim & Casper Go to Church - an atheist and a Christian talk about churchI recently readย Jimย & Casper Go to Church by Jim Henderson and Matt Casper. Not only did I thoroughly enjoy the book, but I also appreciate the various blogs managed by Helen (see chapter 5 in the book) over at Off The Map. Go check them out.

The set up for the book is that Jim Henderson “rented the soul” of Matt Casper on EBay for $504. ย Jim took Matt to several churches around the country to see what Matt thought of Christianity and the way we “do church.” The book records what happened.

Encouraging Things about Jim & Casper Go to Church

Theย two main things I took away fromย this bookย is that there is incredible value in (1) visiting other churches, and (2) inviting (or hiring) people who don’t believe the way we do to come and brutally critique our churches.ย Doing these two things would probably change the way most of us do church, and for the better. (As a side note, check out what LeadershipNow says about why businesses should hire “Insultants.” The same thing applies to churches.)

What I found mostย encouraging about the book is that Matt Casper, the Atheist, had many of the same critiques of modern “churchianity” as I do. Since I want to embrace and engage people just like Matt Casper, it was encouraging to see that in some ways, I am on the right track. His concerns about what is going on inย the churches he visited with Jim areย similar to many of theย concerns I have.

Challenging Things aboutย Jim & Casper Go to Church

The most challenging aspect of the book is how Jim, the Christian, rarely tried to correct or fix Casper’s views. Casper, as an “outsider” really did misunderstand what some churches were doing and why. I sometimes found myself thinking, “Why doesn’t Jim explain that to Casper?”

But at the end of the book (pp. 149-150), Jim explains why he didn’t.

There are three basic reasons: First,ย when people visit a church, they generally don’t have someone there to answer their questions and refute their misconceptions.ย Second, most Christians in the pews wouldn’t know how to respond to Casper anyway. Third, most of us Christians are too defensive and argumentative toward people who criticize the church. Instead of trying to develop genuine relationships with people, we most often try to win arguments. That’s no way to reach out. Rather, we should let their critiques stand, and maybe change the way we do some things.

I could go on and on about this great little book (even though there were some things I disagree with). Let me just give you a few of the best quotes:

Jim: “A while back (1,700 years to be exact) the church drifted into the religion business. I call it beliefism — the worship of the right beliefs — and what you’re hearing today is a version of beliefism. Rather than Christians giving priority to what we do, we’ve been taught a view that tells us what’s really important to be known for is what we believe” (p. 7).

Casper: “Is that what Jesus told you guys to do? Put on aย  Christian rock show that’s visually and sonically indistinguishable from a non-Christian rock show, change the words, and call it church? Is that pulled from the Bible?” (p. 18; cf. similar statements on pp. 39, 67).

Casper: “Outreach only lasts so long. The first step is always pretty good, polite outreach: ‘Would you like to come check out our church?’ Then it’s ratcheted up a notch: ‘Have you thought about where you’ll spend eternity?’ And then, they throw in the towel: ‘Have fun in hell, sinner!’ Maybe I’m exaggerating, but you get my drift” (p. 95).

Casper: “I understand that Christians believe Jesus was free of sin, but my impression is that he didn’t focus on that. He wasn’t like, ‘Look at me! No sin at all! Be just like me!’ Based on what I’ve read, his main thing was going out and helping the poor and those who were suffering, and instructing others to do the same” (p. 100).

Casper (note this from an Atheist!): “If the Bible is really the Word of God, it’s very, very important to not take it out of context. I mean, that’s the rule that applies to most every phrase ever said, so you’d think it’d apply tenfold to the Bible! …You can’t take a snippet of the Bible out of context and misuse it, or spin it, to support your particular pitch. That’s twisted” (p. 141).

The book abounds with such insights from an Atheist. I recommend reading it, and then going out and finding an Atheist or two to come visit your church and tell you what he or she thinks. Tell them to be brutal.

Then, when they are brutal, don’t try to defend yourself. Just listen. Whatever you do, don’t do this as some sort of marketing pitch to get Atheists to attend your church. That’s just dishonest. Be genuine. Be real. Just try to make friends. Andย if you can’t make friends with atheists, I suggest shutting down your church because you’re not doing anybody any good.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: atheists, Books I'm Reading, Christian books, church growth, Discipleship, evangelism, ministry, Theology of the Church

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Manly Valentines Day Gifts

By Jeremy Myers
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Ever wonder what a womanย can get forย a manย on Valentine’s Day? The stores are full of things men can get a woman…chocolate, flowers, cards, jewelry…but there is nothing to get for a man. My wife says this is because Valentine’s Day is more for a woman than for a man. Of course, that’s because what a man wants can’t be sold in a store…but that’s all I’ll say about that.

Anyway, if you ladies really want to get a gift for your man, let me suggest the following:

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What if I told you to Pray Less?

By Jeremy Myers
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What if I told you to Pray Less?

I recently heard (#AmazonAdLink) Bob Roberts make the following shocking statement:

“I think all Christians need to pray less. Instead, we need to just shut up and play ball.”

At first, I was shocked, because we so often hear that we need to pray more, and thatย the kingdom of God advances on our knees.

But then I got to thinking about it. I think that many of us substitute prayer for obedience. We need to pray less and obey more.

Pray LessPray vs. Obey?

We know what God wants us to do, but instead of obeying, we pray about it.

Every single one of knows that we are supposed to show love to our friends, coworkers, family members, and neighbors. But instead of actually doing that, most of us pray about it instead.

We say: “Dear God, please help my neighbor with his marital problems. Please help my coworker with her troubled kids. I’ve been praying so long for my father, God. Please do something.”

Does that prayer sound familiar?

Listen to the prayer time in your church this Sunday, or in the Bible Study you attend. I guarantee that in most of these prayer times, someone will pray that God will help the people in your community with their problems and struggles.

Then ask yourself, “What are we as a church, what am I as a Christian, actually doing about these needs ourselves?”

When we pray to God to help others, it is possible that God is “praying” for us to go help others?

How about when someone is hurting, or sick, or in financial need? Do you pray about it, or do you actually help them? What do you think God wants you to do?

Let Me Pray About It

I am constantly haunted by a conversation I witnessed about five years ago between a father and hisย son. (The father was a pastor, by the way.) I was working at a Bible camp, and we needed some staff for the following week. The son asked the father ifย he could stay and help out.ย The fatherย answered, “I’ll pray about it” and walked away.

The son turned to me and said, “That means ‘No.'”

The son had his dad figured out. His dad was using prayer (and God) as a way to spiritualize his own decisions to not grant his son’s requests.

I wonder how often we treat the commands of God this way? Instead of just telling God “No” we tell him “I’ll pray about it.” Prayer, when used in such a way, is a spiritual way of stalling so we don’t have to obey God.

The next time you catch yourself saying (or writing) to someone, “I’ll pray for you” stop and ask yourself if there is something you can actually do for the person instead.

Do you want to pray like never before?

Do you what to talk to God like you talk to a friend? Do you want to see more answers to prayer?

If you have these (and other) questions about prayer, let me send you some teaching and instruction about prayer to your email inbox. You will receive one or two per week, absolutely free. Fill out the form below to get started.

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God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: answers to prayer, Bible Study, Discipleship, love others, pray, prayer, prayer meetings, What is prayer

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Start Living Grace

By Jeremy Myers
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Start Living Grace

living gracePreviously I suggested that we stop talking about grace and start living grace.

I am by no means an expert on how to live a life of grace. Up untilย a few months ago,ย the entire focus of my life was to read, write, study, teach, and talk about grace. But despite all this study and reading, I did a very poor job living grace.

Yesterday, I suggested that the more a person talks and writes and proclaims grace, the less they seem to live it. That’s just my experience.

(So, with that being said, let me talk and write some more about grace! Ha!)

Here is how I am trying to learn to live a life of grace.

Living Grace

First, I startedย trying to figure out which sort of people were most often criticized, judged, and condemnedย by theย churches, Christians, radio shows, books, and articles I interact with. These people made my mental “grace list.”

Second, I started praying to see these people as Jesus sees them, and to give me opportunities to get to know them. I suspected that it is much easier to judge a person’s bad theology or bad behavior ifย I don’t actually know them.

Finally, I began toย actively seek out these people to get to know them and befriend them. I set up appointments. I scheduled lunch meetings. I applied for jobs with them so I could work with them and help them. I read their blogs, and interact with them by e-mail (all in a kind, gracious manner!).

Examples of Living Grace

Let me give you some examples of people you could try to develop relationships with: atheists, abortion doctors, homosexuals, pornographers, strippers, prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholics, people who have different theological views than you do, people with different political views, etc.

There are dozens more. Living Grace

And by the way, if you are going to try to develop friendships with people who are different than you, don’t focus on the things that separate you. Your friendship will last about two seconds if you do that. Just try to get to know them as a person.

Focus on the things you have in common. Try to find out everything you can about them, and who they are. Learn aboutย their dreams, desires, and goals in life. Ask if there is any way you can help them or be of service to them.

The only way to truly teach grace is to engage in living grace among other people.

How are you doing this in your own life?

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, evangelism, grace, homosexuality

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Stop Talking About Grace

By Jeremy Myers
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Stop Talking About Grace

living graceI had a discussion today with a guy that most Christians love to hate. This man used to be a Christian, but rejected it all about twenty years ago, and now lives as a pot-smoking, cursing, swinging spiritist.

Yet as I talked to him, I found myself thoroughly enjoying the conversation… more than any theological or biblical conversation I have had in the last several years. It was one of the most refreshing and eye-opening discussions I have ever had.

It wasn’t refreshing and eye-opening because of anything I learned from him, but because it gave me a new appreciation into how many Christians treat non-Christians, compared to how many non-Christians treat Christians in return.

He told me about some of the criticism he gets from Christians, and how he just tries to respond with kindness and love. Isn’t it strange that many Christians, who are supposed to be known for our love, really only have love for each other, whereas everyone outside our “group” gets condemned and criticized for their beliefs and behavior?

I have noticed this sort of behavior on many fronts.

I have noticed this not just in my interactions with people at work and with my neighbors, but also online and in movies. As an example, did you see the movie God’s Not Dead? In it, a Christian university student is challenged by an atheist professor to defend his evangelical beliefs.

I found it strange that in the movie, the meanest and rudest people were the atheists. Also, the “token” Muslim family had a father who beat his daughter.

This is the sort of way Christians often portray non-Christians to one-another, which only goes to show that many Christians have absolutely no idea what most atheists and Muslims are like.

The people that Christians most loudly denounce are often some of the most gracious people to be around.

Doesn’t that seem strange?

Those of us who are saved by grace, teach grace, write about grace, proclaim grace, and have “grace” in the names of our churches and ministries, are some of the least gracious people that exist.

Which got me thinking… just like the preacher pounds the pulpit during his weakest points,ย maybe those who talk loudest about grace are trying to compensate for a lifestyle that lacks grace.

live out graceMaybe those of us who talk and write a lot about grace should follow the example of non-believers (and Jesus) and start living grace before we ever start to talk about grace with others.

Besides, living out grace is a better way to teach grace any day.

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: atheists, Discipleship, evangelism, grace, Muslims, Theology of Salvation

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