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What Elijah Missed

By Jeremy Myers
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What Elijah Missed

Paule PattersonThis is a guest post by Paule Patterson.

Paule is the High School Student Coach at Real Life on the Palouse in Moscow, ID. He has three children and has been married to his best friend for over 10 years. He attempts to ask questions that are often glossed over and to challenge the most basic of assumptions, looking for the shades of grey and color beyond the black and whites.

Paule writes and hosts a podcast at Valid Ambiguity. You can also connect with him on Twitter: @dredzs

Note from Jeremy Myers: I am publishing several guest posts this summer as I take some time off to rest. I am also preparing for something HUGE this fall. Stay tuned! If you would like to write a Guest Post for RedeemingGod, begin by reading the Guest Blogger Guidelines.

Elijah on Mt HorebSlunked under his tattered cloak on a bed of trampled dirt and granite, Elijah was exhausted by his forty-day trek to Horeb and his bout with depression. He was alone. His volcanic Mount Carmel showdown, his draught ending prayer session, and his Flash like outrunning of the chariot have all faded into the foggy clefts of his memory. He was alone. Everyone had failed. If a torrential inferno from the clouds and the relief from the long desperate draught were not enough to turn the hearts of Israel back to their God, what was the point?

Elijah wants to die.

Then the word of the Lord rattled through the cave, “What are you doing here, Elijah?” (1 Kings 19:9).

Elijah scrambled to his feet. What kind of question was this? Was it not the Lord who sent his angel to strengthen Elijah for this journey to the mount of God? Where else could Elijah go? He whimpers, “I have been very jealous for the Lord, the God of hosts. For the people of Israel have forsaken your covenant, thrown down your altars, and killed your prophets with the sword, and I, even I only, am left, and they seek my life, to take it away.” The word of the Lord again shakes the loose debris of the cave’s ceiling, “Go out and stand on the mount before the Lord.” The Lord was about to appear.

Only Moses had experienced such a thing. His face glared like the setting sun as a result. Would this be the reinforcements for Elijah’s isolation or the recognition for Elijah’s fiery dedication? As Elijah inches towards the mouth of the cave, a great wind barrages the mountain, shattering boulders. Yet, God was not in the wind.

Then an earthquake sifts the mountain as wheat. Yet, God was not in the earthquake.

Then a firestorm floods the mountain. Yet, God was not in the fire.

Then, as shards of rocks tumble down, the landslides relax and the ashes smolder, a quaint, almost silent, whisper advances the mountain. “What are you doing here, Elijah?” The same question as before? Apparently, Elijah had missed something and was not picking up on the not-so-subtle hints God was dropping; Elijah’s answer to this second question was the verbatim of the first. The people have all failed the Lord and only Elijah has remained faithful. The Lord, as if ignoring Elijah’s lamentation, instructs Elijah to make a couple of final appointments and then to go train Elisha as his replacement. Elijah was being retired.

What had Elijah missed?

Elijah cave 1 Kings 19To answer the question, compare this story with that of Moses’ mountain experiences which took place on Mount Horeb and Mount Sinai. These two mountains are closely related to each other in significance and there is debate on whether or not Sinai and Horeb is the same mountain. Moses had seen flames rain down on Mount Sinai, felt the quaking of the mountain (Exodus 19:18) and seen the ruach (wind) push up the seawaters so the people may escape on dry land (Exodus 15:8-10). Moses had felt the agony and rage of seeing God’s people over and over again forget and forsake their Savior and Lord.

Even as the soot sprinkled from Mount Sinai above, the people whom Moses was leading melted gold, fabricated a calf, and idiotically declared, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!” (Exodus 32:8). After squashing the active rebellion, Moses hikes up the face of Horeb to beg the Lord to remain with His people. When the Lord promises to do so, Moses nonchalantly said to the Lord, “Please show me your glory.”

God put Moses in a cleft, like Elijah was in a cave, and covered Moses’ face as the Lord passed by, as Elijah covered his face when the whisper manifested.

During the idol worship, while the people “played,” the Lord was watching and relayed the events to Moses. God denounced these people to Moses, saying, “…Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them, in order that I may make a great nation of you” (Exodus 32:9-10).

At this point, Moses and Elijah begin to diverge.

Moses mediated on behalf of the people. As their leader, he stepped up and pleaded for them. Moses had people behind him at the foot of the mountain. Moses had been training up Joshua and working with Aaron. Elijah had simply given up on the people. He was alone with no co-workers or disciples. Just when you might assume that Elijah’s isolation had been the people’s fault, the Lord informed Elijah that there were 7000 who had not bent their knee to or kissed Baal. Elijah had also forgotten the 100 other prophets hidden by Obadiah (1 Kings 18:3-4). When you might assume that there was none worthy of being Elijah’s disciple, the Lord speaks of Elisha. Elijah had been the lone wolf and the Lord was inviting him to consider that what he was missing was people. He had framed his world and his activity around himself. He was so caught up in what he could, in what he had to do, that he forgot God’s people. Even when they had failed, he missed the opportunity to plead for them. He had assumed that a little light show would be enough. He had not anticipated that the real work would be with people, for people, and in people.

In your life, your job, and your family, don’t isolate from the people around you. You cannot come to the mountain of God without bringing the people of God. The mountain top is for the leader to gain perspective so that he may rejoin God’s people who await at the base. That is where God is working.

God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: 1 Kings 19, Elijah, guest blogging, guest post

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Dialed in to Jesus

By Jeremy Myers
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Dialed in to Jesus

Doreen FrickThis is a guest post by Doreen Frick. Doreen is the daughter of prophecy writer Salem Kirban, and was most influenced by the people in her life who showed her Christ in the practical ways. She and her husband, Wes, have four “kids” and 11 grandkiddies.

You can view her other writings at Grand Magazine, “I Long to See My Fairy Godmother” and Edge Magazine, “Rain, Rain.” You can read more about Doreen here. She wrote a previous guest post for Redeeming God, which can be found here: Have Your Next Corona on Me.

If you would like to write a Guest Post for RedeemingGod, begin by reading the Guest Blogger Guidelines.

For nigh onto a year, I was texting someone I thought was my son. It didn’t matter that he never texted back, I figured he was busy with his law and his family and his coaching and his friends so I kept my “corresponding” short, sweet, and always about football.

Specifically The Chicago Bears.

I’d text when they were doing good, or when I thought someone shoulda caught that pass. No reply, not even an “I’m too upset to watch this game another minute!” typical Josh reaction. When the Bears played my team I could rightly understand his lack of response–after all my team was the Seahawks. The Superbowl Seahawks.

texting

But then one day out of the blue I did hear back with a text I didn’t expect.

I’m not Josh. Please stop texting me.

Yikes. I looked at those sad words and went back in my mind hoping I never said anything I wouldn’t want anyone else to read. Nope. My mom always told me never to write anything you didn’t want broadcast all over so I was pretty sure I continued to follow that advice once the tech age began ruling the correspondence world. My next decision involved how to politely respond to this dear soul who’d been receiving unwanted texts meant for a son somewhere out there who apparently changed his number and never bothered to tell dear old mom.

I texted the unknown Mr. or Miss or Ms. or Mrs. I’m NOT Josh with all the innocence a mother left in the dark could muster,

Thank you so much for letting me know. Mom’s always the last to find out when their kid changes their number. So very sorry I’ve used so many of your texts this year!

And then I guess the poor soul on the other end felt sorry for Joshua’s mom left with no cell phone number to bug her son with about football because he/she replied,

That’s ok.

I called Josh’s firm and got his voicemail. My message was short and sweet and you can guess what I said.

A quick text came back. Mystery solved:

You mean your number isn’t ###-8083? Because I’ve been texting someone who never replies either!

Ah ha! I get it now. Josh got a new phone last year and a new number which he attempted to text me but when he entered my number he inverted two digits which for someone in his business is pretty ironic since he gets all over his secretaries about proofreading his stuff before it becomes the law. I knew I suffered from inverting number dyslexia, never knew til now he did too. Maybe it’s inherited, I thought and a lovely understanding and spell of relief flooded my slightly hurt feeling a little bit ignored mother soul. Josh had been in touch all this time and thought I’d been ignoring him.

Alas all was reconciled, Josh and I were reconnected, life was back on track. Just then another text came through, an oldest son’s word of caution:

Be careful who you text, Mom. Not everyone out there is nice.

Hmm, I thought about that and guessed he was right though it would have been nice if the mystery person on the other end would have told me sooner I had the wrong person dialed in but yeah maybe they figured most moms were smarter than I am and would eventually catch on. Maybe they just wanted to give me time to figure out a fairly tricky situation and I’m just lucky I got a good one who didn’t take advantage of my delicate predicament. So thank you whoever you were out there in cell phone land. Maybe someday you’ll text the wrong person and they’ll let you know kindly, like you did me.

Today I read my Bible in John and ran across the lady at the well talking to Jesus and not knowing He’s the Son of God. She’s telling him how when Messiah comes He’ll take care of His people, He’ll provide like Jacob provided this fine well and how is it that He, a Jew speaks to her a Samaritan and then comes to a well with nothing to draw water with. Oh don’t they have a nice chat in the broiling heat of day as Jesus draws her in with a promise of Living Water even better than anything she’s drinking now and she’s so thirsty for the real thing she wants to know who will give it, and Jesus ever-so-gently responds:

“I that speak unto thee am He.”

John 11Jesus was so succinct, so powerfully textual and welcoming she was already falling for Him before he got to that part, but just as quickly as she learns the truth she goes running to tell all the men in the village she’s met a Man who told her everything she ever did. He’s gotta be the One, doesn’t He? And don’t you know all the men come right out to meet this Man who spoke with this woman and who knew all things. As I read this part the picture of a bunch of fairly curious and perhaps a little worried townspeople rushing out to see what the commotion is all about comes to me and then I smile when it’s recorded how they all believed Him. Not because she told them, but because they heard Him for themselves.

Very, very telling.

And maybe, just maybe, I wonder if what she was told was not so much what she did, but why she did it. Maybe, just maybe, this man she met at the well was hearing her sad heart. Her needs. Her wants. Her full self. Maybe He was the Perfect Hearer, not the perfect teller. All humans want to be heard and I imagine her heart felt it was finally becoming whole.

Sure we don’t go to wells to do our socializing (i.e. gossiping) and yes she was there during the heat of the afternoon because she was somewhat of an outcast and alone in her world of many husbands and no she probably didn’t have a good relationship with the women at the quilting bee yet she was the one in Samaria who was tuned in and ready when her Messiah called her number.

Because maybe just maybe there’s no such thing as a wrong one …

Her pot of clay was empty
As well as her poor heart
She sat at the well just waiting
For a drink a hope a fresh start

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: guest post, John 11

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We Stopped Going to Church…Now What?

By Jeremy Myers
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We Stopped Going to Church…Now What?

Jim GordonThis is a guest post by Jim Gordon.

Jim is the contributor for Done with Religion, a blog site about living for God in a non-religious way. Jim grew up being part of the Methodist church for several years, then was part of several non-denominational churches over the next few years before leaving the institution. He and his wife, after many years in the organized church, have been living for God outside the walls of the traditional church. They live in the central Ohio area. Along with his blog, you can connect with Jim on Facebook and Twitter.

If you would like to write a Guest Post for RedeemingGod.com, begin by reading the Guest Blogger Guidelines.

My wife and I grew up in the organized church, spent many years involved and enjoyed it. At the time we thought this is what God intended and was the only way to obey the commands of the Bible about meeting together.

After years in the organization, we began to have an uneasy feeling about the way church was done. We were very unsatisfied each week going to a building, listening to one group of people lead the singing, then listening to one person do all the talking.

We started wondering why the pastor was the only person who had authority to speak for God and tell us how we were to act and believe. When we read verses such as I Corinthians 14:26 about each one of us having something to say, we wondered why that never happened.

church crowdAfter several years of questioning and being unhappy with the way church was performed, my wife and I made a decision to stop attending and see how we felt.

Of course the first thing many people told us was that we were wrong for staying away because the bible says not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together. After thinking about that verse for a while, I came to the conclusion that it was not talking about an organized meeting once a week in a building. We took this verse to mean that we needed our brothers and sisters in Christ on a daily basis in normal day to day living.

The first several months after leaving church as we knew it, the thing that seemed like a priority to us was finding something else to get involved in such as a small group or house church. After a short time we came to find that many house churches and small groups were actually nothing more than church on a smaller scale.

Now that we have been out of the organized system for a couple years, we are coming to realize we are having more meaningful fellowship without any type of organized group or meeting. Living for Christ is a daily lifestyle not a one day or now and then way of living. Jesus is living within us by the Holy Spirit and we fellowship with Him daily. He has been bringing people into our lives that share our thoughts about organized church, some for a long period, some for a short while, and others just on a one time basis.

We have found that since being out of the church system, we depend on God more and enjoy meaningful fellowship with others more than we did when it was at a set place on a set time frame with only a few select people in charge and doing all the teaching.

We believe that Church is a community of believers who get together anytime, anywhere, no matter if it is only 2 or 3 people. This is the assembling of the believers to us, fellowship time together anytime God brings it about realizing God is within us and we are the Church.

I am not going to say that the organized church is a bad thing, though I do believe it is not what God meant when He said He would build His Church. I have many happy memories in church, made many friends there and learned a lot about our Father. Yet at this point, neither my wife nor I would want to go back into the organized church with its many doctrines and religious ways of doing church. We have found so much more meaning and fellowship outside the walls and we are enjoying our walk down this path God has lead us too.

attending churchWe also find it interesting that God leads us to people when we least expect it, even when it is someplace that no one would expect such as a restaurant, park, work or even a pub. We have also made a lot of friends that many religious people would not want to be around, yet the love of Christ within us draws us together in love and acceptance.

We were always taught in the church that we should separate ourselves from the non-believers and only talk to them when we could ‘witness’ for Christ. Basically that seems to mean talk to non-believers only when we can point out their mistakes or condemn them for their way of life. I never found in the bible where Jesus treated anyone that way.

If you are satisfied with the week to week services and religious ways of doing church that is OK. Stay there and enjoy the time you have with other like-minded believers. If you are questioning the way church is done, or if you are dissatisfied and looking to leave the organization then do so without feeling guilty. Seek God and ask Him to lead you, teach you and guide you in this new path outside the walls of religion.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: attending church, church, guest blogging, guest post

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Have your next Corona on me

By Jeremy Myers
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Have your next Corona on me

Doreen FrickThis is a guest post by Doreen Frick. Doreen is the daughter of prophecy writer Salem Kirban, and was most influenced by the people in her life who showed her Christ in the practical ways. She and her husband, Wes, have four “kids” and 11 grandkiddies.

You can view her other writings at Grand Magazine, “I Long to See My Fairy Godmother” and Edge Magazine, “Rain, Rain.” You can read more about Doreen here.

If you would like to write a Guest Post for RedeemingGod, begin by reading the Guest Blogger Guidelines.

She was my seatmate on the train. She had the window seat. I joined her later when I got on near Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Quiet, a slight smile when I asked if I could sit there next to her, she seemed absorbed. Judging her age to be about the same as mine, I understand the need for solitude. I was on a happy trip to see family. I wasn’t sure hers was for something as pleasant. She took a call on her cell phone and I got up to give her some privacy.

I think in that simple gesture, she knew I could be trusted.

woman on the train

We met later in the snack car. I was buying a salad and a cup of coffee, she a Corona and lime. This time when her cell phone rang, she asked me to stay. “No need to leave,” she smiled. “I don’t mind.”

I wasn’t really eavesdropping, but it wasn’t possible to not leave and not hear. She was headed somewhere to get her daughter out of jail.

When she hung up, I gave her one of those, “Yeah. It’s OK,” looks. And then we went back to our seats, and she extended a simple kindness to me when she watched me trying to clean my eyeglasses with a sorry looking piece of kleenex, reaching into her purse for an eye-doctor type packet of cleaning wipes.

I don’t know why that touched me so much, but it did. We didn’t chat. She was tired, that was obvious, but we were connected due to the long miles behind us.

coronaMe. A non-drinker, non-everything good Independent Fundamental Baptist Free Methodist Presbyterian, sometimes not even a church goer, daughter of a religious author girl. There was no evidence that she wasn’t a Christian, (and why do we have to even try and figure that out? I guess I’m still letting that one go in favor of just loving whoever God puts me beside). In my mind she was probably someone with deep and tried and true faith and we could have shared the next Corona if I could drink (it makes me dizzy, that’s why I don’t). But the biggest thing we shared that day was a burden.

I took on hers.

God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: guest post, love like Jesus, love others

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Salvation is Like a Seven-Foot Invisible Rabbit

By Jeremy Myers
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Salvation is Like a Seven-Foot Invisible Rabbit

This is a guest post by Peter Rouzaud. Peter recently started reading this blog, and then later discovered that he and I live in the same town! So we met for coffee and he shared with me some of his articles he has written. Below is one of these articles.Peter has also written a book called Finding Perfect Peace which can be found on Amazon.

Have you ever seen the movie “Harvey“?

It’s a great old movie, staring Jimmy Stewart. Stewart plays Elwood P. Dowd, an eccentric whose good friend is a seven-foot rabbit that talks. The only problem is that Dowd is the only one that can see or hear his friend Harvey. Understandably, this creates lots of problems for Dowd.

Harvey DowdNow just imagine if this were possible: Imagine that you had a friend that no one could see, no one else could hear, yet whom you could see and hear perfectly. How would this make you feel? Among other feelings, I think it would make you feel special. But you would certainly have trouble communicating to others who and what your friend was.

This, I think, is a great example of ‘faith in Christ.’ No matter what I say about Him. No matter how passionate I am in my explanations, it is impossible for me to adequately describe who Jesus is to me. I may say to you, “Jesus told me something today’. Or, “Jesus is helping me in this way today.” Or, “Jesus did something very great in my life today.”

If you grew up in the church, you might understand what I mean. On the other hand, you might look at me as if I said that Harvey the seven-foot rabbit did and said all these things.

relationship with GodEach of us have experiences with Jesus that make sense to us, but which are difficult, if not impossible, to explain to other people. But this does not mean our experience with Jesus is a figment of our imagination.

Spiritual Experiences and the Christian

Before I go on, let me say that I am not advocating or promoting purely unsubstantiated, subjective experiences. Every religion has it’s esoteric experiences. Voodoo has its emotional trances. Mormonism has its ‘burning in the bosom.’ Pentecostalism has its tongues and prophetic utterances. All these use such experiences to claim legitimacy and to validate the “faithful.” But this is not what I am talking about.

Neither am I saying that ‘all personal experiences are somehow OK and right for the individual and we should not judge others experiences; because they are just as legitimate as our own.’

No, what I am saying is that God can give you an experience that is unique to you, and He can give me an experience that is unique to me. And just as I have to trust my experience, you have to trust your own! And just as neither one of us can fully understand or share the experience of the other, so also, neither one of us can directly challenge or invalidate the experience of the other.

A Validation of Your Experience with God

Here are some thoughts which validate your unique experience with God:

  • It’s is impossible for God to lie (Num 23:19)
  • God said that if you seek Him with your ‘whole’ heart you would find Him (Prov. 2:1-10)
  • Jesus said that God wants us to worship Him is Spirit and in truth (John 4:24)
  • The apostle John said that the Spirit of God would lead us into all truth (1 John 2:27 )
  • Jesus said that , ‘all that came to Him, he would not cast us out (John 6:37)
  • Jesus said that he would actually live inside us by his Spirit (John 14:16-17)

Essentially, all religion is subjective; none of it can be scientifically proven to be genuine.

relationship with GodThis is not to say that all religion is valid; only that God is the one that judges its validity. But aside from its subjective nature, pure religion must have its source from God. And if the source is from God, I don’t have any control over your experience. I may have an opinion about it, but ultimately, your experience is between you and God.

Experience is a part of Relationship

God wants a relationship with his children (us humans). But just as with any relationship, there are conditions for how that relationship begins and continues.

But a problem arises among Christians when I begin to think that the conditions and experiences of my relationship with God are normative for all other children of God. We get into trouble if I think that my relationship with God is what every other relationship with God should look like.

But this expectation does not match any other relationship in life. While there are similarities in all marriages, no marriage relationship began or continued to develop like any other marriage relationship. Every marriage is unique. In the same way, While there may be some similarities in all parent-child relationships, no parent-child relationship progressed or grew like any other parent-child relationship.

So if my marriage looks nothing like your marriage, do I have any right to say that you are not, in fact, married? No!

But this is what we sometimes to as Christians.

I look at how I became a child of God and if your story of how you became a child of God does not match up with mine, I might be tempted to think that you are not, in fact, a child of God at all! Or if I have certain experiences in my relationship with Jesus, but you don’t share those experiences at all, I might be tempted to think you don’t have a relationship with Jesus. In both cases, you might think the same thing about me. And if we get to arguing about this, it’s going to cause divisions and problems.

Thankfully, God has it all figured out

One thing we can be sure of, and this is what we must hold to, is that God knows every man intimately, and He promised to reveal Himself to any man who wants to know Him.

So it matters little what I think of your experience with God. Nor does it matter what you think of my experience. What matters is what God sees deep down in our heart.

following JesusThe tricky part, however, is what we see from Elwood P. Dowd. Though his belief in Harvey made him different, I am certain that it is not God’s intent just to make us different from the world. His intent is more complicated than that.

I have found that my relationship with God does make me different, but there is the huge distinction. Harvey made Dowd different according to Dowd’s own propensities, but Jesus makes each of us different according to God’s propensities and His character. This is never easy, and there is a strong part of me that continually fights this change. But change I do, not just outwardly, but deep inside.

And, by the way, this is how I know that my relationship with my “invisible friend” is genuine: my propensities change into something I never wanted or imagined.

To try to convince anyone of this subjective experience is futile, and a waste of time. The fact is, God does a better job, we only need to ask Him to reveal Himself to us, and if our heart is honest, He will.

Are you uncomfortable with comparing your relationship with Jesus to Dowd’s relationship with an invisible, talking rabbit? Explain why in the comment section below.

Or maybe it gives you comfort to know that your relationship with Jesus has been tailor-made to fit you and your personality, and to bring you into a deeper relationship with God, so that what you experience with God will not ever be duplicated or matched by any other person you encounter? Maybe this gives you the freedom to stop trying to “measure up” to the experiences of others.

God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, experiencing God, following Jesus, guest post, relationships

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