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What is Church? How do you define it?

By Jeremy Myers
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What is Church? How do you define it?

what is ChurchFor several years now, I have beenย mulling overย a nagging question: “What is church?”ย ย How do you know the difference between a Bible study and church? Is there a difference?

In Bible College and Seminary, I attended daily chapel services. Nearly every chapel service began with announcements, had a few songs and a prayer time, and finished with a message from a speaker. How is this different than the Sunday church service?

The seminary told us that chapel does not qualify as church. But why not? What is church? The chapels had singing, teaching, and prayer. We even had fellowship groups, and occasionally in chapel, took communion. Why is this not church?

Or, take the recent introduction of the online church. Can you really be involved with and “attend” a church from your computer at work or at home in your pajamas? If not, why not?

And when it comes to church, how many people need to be present? Can oneย believer in a prison cell in China have their own church service, or does there need to be a minimum of 2 or 3 people gathered together? And what are these 2 or 3 supposed to do, how often, and where? In a recent book by George Barna (Revolution), he implies that a group of four men can be a church out on the golf course if they encourage and edify one another spiritually. If this is true, why can’t we go to church while shopping at the mall, or camping at the lake?

What is Church?

When it comes to the question of “What is Church?” Here is my preliminary hypothesis:

The church isย the universal and spiritual body of believers in Jesus Christ:

  • Which began on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2
  • Gathers together in various physical locations for:
  • Exaltation of Godย by glorifyinig Himย through a life lived in worship
  • Edification of one anotherย through teaching, fellowship, and prayer
  • Evangelism of the world through social and spiritual acts of service

So, what do you think? Even before we begin to break this down and look at Biblical passages related to it, are there things you feel I should add or take out? What are the ramifications of such a definition for the way churches are today?

How do you answer the question, “What is Church?” Let us know in the comments below.

Note:ย This post was written in 2007, and launched me on a study about the church, much of which is found in various other posts on this blog. Some of the results of this study about the church can be found in my eBook,ย Skeleton Church.ย In that book, I attempt to answer the question, “What is church?” by providing a bare-bones definition of church.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: church, communion, fellowship, prayer, Preaching, Skeleton Church, Theology of the Church

Dirtbags…Not for the girly-man

By Jeremy Myers
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Dirtbags…Not for the girly-man

Dirtbags Men's Ministry

A while back I was on vacation in Montana and attended a Friday morning men-only Bible study called “The Dirtbags.” As with the Cowboy Church I visited in Plano, The Dirtbags met in a bar.

The study began about 10 years ago with 10 men. Now, they have two meeting times, 6:30 and 8:00 am, with about 60-80 men at each. Most of these men were the rugged, outdoorsy, work with their hands, salt of the earth type men, and here they were, spending 90 minutes with other men, studying the Bible. So don’t tell me men aren’t interested in the Bible! They just need a Bible study without all the frills and “girly-man” stuff.

The Dirtbag Decor

And there was nothing “girly-man” about this study. The bar decorations themselves were…interesting. In the Plano, TX bar church, there were a hundred neon beer signs. This bar had those also, along with about 20 bikini-girl posters. I had to practice Proverbs 4:25, and keep my gaze fixed on the face of the man leading the study.

The Dirtbag Pastor

The leader of the study was quite a character. I was told he is (or was) on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ. He began the study with a few announcements, followed by some jokes that were e-mailed to him. The jokes were fairly off color, and would have done more than raise a few eyebrows in most churches. The typical pastor would probably get fired for telling jokes like these. However, I will admit that I laughed along with all the other men.

The Dirtbag Evangelism Strategy

The leader also mentioned that they were going to have a golf tournament, and he wanted every man there to invite a non-Christian friend or co-worker. He begged and pleaded with the men to not invite their “religious” friends since there was probably going to be some bad language and excessive drinking that went on.

He explained that the religious peopleย would be aghast at such behavior taking place at an event sponsored by a men’s Bible study, and would call and complain about how it wasn’t right to hang out with such sinners (cf. Matt 11:19; Luke 7:34). He said he didn’t want to waste his time listening to the complaints of religious people, soย the easiest thing was to just not invite them.

The Dirtbag Prayer Requests

He then took prayer requests for about 20 minutes, which surprised me some, since men are notorious for notย asking for prayer when they need it.ย But these menย just kept raising one request after another. Maybe men only don’t ask for requests when women are the room…

The Dirtbag Bible Study

His Bible study also lasted about 20 minutes. It was helpful, practical, down to earth, and best of all, Biblical. He didn’t have a main text, but went to several texts throughout Scripture. Personally, I think sticking to one text would have been better, but these men didn’t seem to have too much trouble flipping through the pages of Scripture. He used two mild words of profanity in his talk, and nobody batted an eye.

The Dirt on Dirtbags

All in all, I think this Bible study shows that men are interested in spiritual things, but they feel most comfortable receiving and talking about them in a manly way. If you haven’t read it yet, you must read Why Men Hate Going to Church by David Murrow to see his findings on this.

On a related note, I recently read a book called Preaching That Speaks to Women by Alice Matthews. Maybe I am wrong, but as I look around the average church in America today, I don’t think we need to work on preaching that speaks to women. Our churches reveal that we’ve got that mastered. What we need is preaching that speaks to men.

What are your ideas on how to get more men involved in church?

Are bars, bikini-posters, crude jokes, and profanity the way to reach men, especially if the purpose is evangelistic? Is this taking theย “meeting them where they are at” concept too far, or is this redemption in action? Practically, what can you and your church do to better reach men in your community?

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Discipleship, evangelism, ministry to men, outreach, Preaching

Calvinists have TULIP…We have PULPIT

By Jeremy Myers
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Calvinists have TULIP…We have PULPIT

TULIP PulpitFor years I have been looking for a good alternate acronym to the Calvinistic TULIP to sum up what I believe.

I came across one today at the Unashamed of Grace Blog.ย It follows the acronym PULPIT instead of TULIP.

Since the key to getting an acronym to stick is wide acceptance and memorablness (is that a word?),ย go check it out, pass it around, and post a comment about it.

This may be a good acronym to help spread a message different than Calvinism.

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Calvinism, Theology of Salvation, TULIP

I visited a Church in a Bar

By Jeremy Myers
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I visited a Church in a Bar

Church in a barMy friend Kyle wants to plant a church called โ€œSt. Peteโ€™s Church Bar and Grill.โ€ It would be rather convenient for communion since the wine is close by, and you wouldnโ€™t have guys getting antsy to go home for the football game. They can watch the game right from their padded bar-stools in church.

Kyle isnโ€™t joking about this…

Church in a Bar

Bar ChurchThe cool thing is that I am already aware of some churches around the country doing something similar. I wrote a while back about the group in Montana called “Dirtbags” that meets in a bar, and I have also read about I heard about Vince Antonucci and his church in a bar in Virginia Beach. Then there is “Church in a Bar” in Rome, GA, and a few others around the country (If you know of one, leave a link to it in the comments below).

So I decided to see if there was one in the Dallas metroplex. I did a little searching, and found one with the Narrow Trail Church, which meets outside in the beer garden of a local restaurant, and decided to go visit. It turns out that this was not just a church in a bar, but was also a cowboy church.

Having previously pastored in Montana, I immediately felt at home when I walked in since most of the people were wearing cowboy hats, boots, wranglers, and big belt buckles. One bearded, heavily tattooed guy drove up on his Harley.

Breakfast in a Bar Church

I showed up at 9 am for their free breakfast and sat by a young couple who hadnโ€™t been in church for three or four years but decided to check out the church that meets in a bar because โ€œItโ€™s not churchy.โ€ Looking around, I knew what they meant. Where else can you attend church with one hundred neon beer signs and only one cross? However, as I was later reminded, “One cross is all you need.”

bar churchAs I ate, I had a dozen or so people come up and welcome me. I was back in an area of the beer garden that was hard to reach, so one guy got up and just walked across the top of the tables so he could come greet me. Thatโ€™s another thing you wonโ€™t see in the average churchโ€”people walking on the pews just to go greet a visitor. Since this church meets outside, I asked what they do in bad weather, and the guy proudly informed me that “rain or snow this is where they meet.” This is, after all, a cowboy church, and they are โ€œtough as nails.โ€ Part of the beer garden was covered, and so my guess is that when bad weather comes, they just gather under the covered area.

The Church Service in a Bar

The beginning of the service did not begin with a โ€œWelcomeโ€ but we did have a โ€œHowdy.โ€ They had a few announcements and then the musician sang. The music was country western, and the songs werenโ€™t really they type that people sang along to. It was more like you were in a bar listening to the house band. Considering the crowd that was there, I think this was a good idea since most of the people didnโ€™t appear to be the singing type. This isnโ€™t an insult; itโ€™s just that some people donโ€™t feel comfortable singing.

Church in a BarI did notice that when the music leader got up to sing, he had a Starbucks coffee in one hand. If you read the post on myย Emergent Immersion, you will know why this is funny to me. It seems like all singers, songwriters, and artists drink Starbucks. I half expected him to pull out an iPhone.

Of course, he probably drank Starbucks becuase the free coffee was pretty bad. I met the guy who proudly told me he made the coffee, but then confessed he can’t stand to drink coffee. (Note to all churches: The person who volunteers to make the coffee should be somone who actually drinks coffee). So anyway, Starbucks and all, theย songs were good quality, and since I like country music, found myself tapping my foot along to the music. I guess the musician has some CDs out, but I can’t remember his name…

The Sermon in a Bar

After the music, the pastor got up to preach. I had met him when I first walked into the beer garden, and he introduced himself at John Myers. I donโ€™t think there is any relation to me. But he did graduate from Dallas Theological Seminary, so I guess Iโ€™m on the right track. Speaking of tracks, as soon as he got up to preach, we heard a train whistle off in the distance. He said, โ€œWell, I guess Iโ€™ll wait for the train.โ€

It didnโ€™t take me long to find out what he meant. About thirty seconds later, the train came rumbling by not twenty feet from where we were seated, blowing its whistle and drowning out anything the pastor could have been saying. Not many pastors have to deal with trains coming through their church before they preach, but everybody took it in stride.

Once the train was gone, the pastor taught for about thirty minutes from John 15. His sermon was not full of Christian lingo and theological jargon, but was clear, simple, and down to earth. He peppered his sermon with cowboy terms like โ€œget โ€˜er done,โ€ โ€œhave at it,โ€ and โ€œainโ€™t.โ€ He even used a word in his sermon which would offend the gentler ears of most Christians, but which seemed right at home with this group.

When he was done, they closed out the service with a few more songs and then a rousing rendition of โ€œHappy Trails to You.โ€ On my way out, one man stopped me and asked if I would like to start teaching Sunday School next week. He either didnโ€™t know I was a visitor, or wasnโ€™t serious. I hope it was the latter because itโ€™s probably not a good idea to ask visitors to teach Sunday School.

All in all, I really enjoyed this church and felt more at home than I have in aย while. I felt welcome and I was instructed and challenged by the teaching of the Word.ย May churches like this flourish across America where the theology is conservative and the preaching is strong, but the church is flexible enough to meet the people where they are at.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: church in a bar, Church planting, Discipleship, evangelism

The Power of Preaching (Eph 6:19-20)

By Jeremy Myers
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Learn why Preaching the Gospel is so important for Spiritual Warfare by listening to my new sermon, The Power of Preaching (Ephesians 6:19-20).

http://www.tillhecomes.org/Bible/Audio/Ephesians/Eph_6_19-20.mp3

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After listening to it, or reading it, post your comments or questions here so I can interact with you on them.

God is Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Bible Study Podcast

The Secret Weapon: Prayer (Eph 6:18)

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Learn what our Secret Weapon is and why it is so important for Spiritual Warfare by listening to my new sermon, The Secret Weapon: Prayer (Ephesians 6:18).

http://www.tillhecomes.org/Bible/Audio/Ephesians/Eph_6_18.mp3

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After listening to it, or reading it, post your comments or questions here so I can interact with you on them.

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Bible Study Podcast

The Sword of the Spirit (Eph 6:17b)

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Learn what the Sword of the Spirit is and how to use it for Spiritual Warfare by listening to my new sermon, The Sword of the Spirit (Ephesians 6:17b).

http://www.tillhecomes.org/Bible/Audio/Ephesians/Eph_6_17b.mp3

After listening to it, or reading it, post your comments or questions here so I can interact with you on them.

God is Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Bible Study Podcast

The Helmet of Salvation (Eph 6:17a)

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Learn what the Helmet of Salvation is and how to use it in Spiritual Warfare by listening to my new sermon, The Helmet of Salvation (Ephesians 6:17a).

http://www.tillhecomes.org/Bible/Audio/Ephesians/Eph_6_17a.mp3

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After listening to it, or reading it, post your comments or questions here so I can interact with you on them.

God is Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Bible Study Podcast

Better than Mother Theresa

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Better than Mother Theresa

Mother Theresa with armless baby Here is the link for the PDF to my most recent newsletter: Better than Mother Theresa Newsletter (July 2007)

You can read the rest of these newsletters on my Matthew Sermons Page.


God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

A Vision for the Future

By Jeremy Myers
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A Vision for the Future

Vision

We in the Free Grace camp need to think BIG about the future. I am not sure if I mentioned in my post about the Acts 29 conference I went to, but my biggest ache on thatย day was that all these men were going out to plant churches, and they were all Lordship/Calvinistic.

Inย my post on Emergent Immersion, Don Reiher made the following comment which I thought was so good, I would postย it here:

Vision for the Future

To be perfectly honest, I cannot stand any of the churches in the area. In the Philadelphia area, there are really no good churches. ALL and I mean ALL the โ€œgoodโ€ mild lordship Bible believing Baptist churches have gone totally reformed over the last 30 years (yes I was born and raised here). There are a few mild lordship Bible churches, but the vast majority are hardline lordship. Then there are the KJV only, legalistic kind of churches.

I go to one of the โ€œmildโ€ lordship ones (75% of the elders are lordship, the pastor says he is free grace, but still makes me wonder). The music is horrible. I cannot blame people for going to โ€œemergentโ€ churches.

BTW. . . I recently read several books from Dan Kimball on Emergent issues, Emerging Worship, and The Emerging Church. I think his material is much better than McLarenโ€™s.

My point, is, my heart aches for the 20s/30s today. When I was that age, there were still some decent churches around. I learned so much doctrine in church, that when I went to Moody in 1979, I already had read most of the books for my classes. It was simply building on what I already knew. Nowadays, I think people are hungry, and will take whatever scraps of food people like Piper throw at them.

People seem to think that you have to throw away all the teaching of the great men of the last century because it doesnโ€™t match with the Westminster Confession. They think they are going back to their roots, by going back to the Reformation, rather than going back to the Bible.

I think we in the Free Grace movement should start putting together some of these big mega-conferences and provide some good worship bands, and dish out a good diet of sound teaching, from a free grace perspective. We need to provide an example of what God is like, and what missions are like, from a NON-Calvinistic, Non-Reformed perspective. In my opinion, their perspective of God is puny compared to what God is really like. Their perspective of the Gospel and missions is a massive confusion, dried up and withered, compared to the clear, fresh streams of water the more Free Grace type folks can provide for them.

I donโ€™t think we could get 20,000 college people, but I bet we could get several thousand. More importantly, I think God would honor it. We in the Free Grace camp need to think big, and think โ€œnext generation.

I agree with this 100%. Thank you Don!


God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Church planting, Discipleship, future, vision

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