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Did you pick up any of these bad habits from Prayer Meetings?

By Jeremy Myers
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Did you pick up any of these bad habits from Prayer Meetings?

As we conclude this chapter from Close Your Church for Good called “Let Prayer Meetings Cease” I have two recommendations for prayer meetings. The first one is below, the second will get posted tomorrow.

Prayer Meetings
Look at all of these prayer meetings! Would there be a better way for these people to spend there time?

Prayer Meetings Teach Bad Prayer Habits

First, we must recognize that most of the bad habits that people use in prayer are not learned from Scripture, but from prayer meetings. Scripture teaches us that God is a friend and a Father, there by our side, wanting to have an ongoing conversation with us about what is important to Him and what is important to us. We can talk to Him as we would talk to any other person.

But the things we learn in prayer meetings would never occur to someone who had not ever attended a prayer meeting.

It is in prayer meetings where we learn that prayer must be said in a certain location, using certain terminology and language, and sitting, or standing, or kneeling in a certain posture.

It is in prayer meetings that people learn the repetitive use of Godโ€™s name and certain phrases and to use 1611 King James English.

It is because of prayer meetings that we feel justified in spreading gossip about others while calling it โ€œsharing a prayer request.โ€

It is because of payer meetings that we delay praying for someone when they need it, telling them instead, โ€œIโ€™ll mention it at prayer meeting.โ€

It is because of prayer meetings that we often feel it is better to pray about a need than actually do something to meet that need.

It is because of prayer meetings that we feel if we pray, we donโ€™t have to obey.

IT is because of prayer meetings that we feel that if we pray for world missions and evangelism, we donโ€™t have to do it ourselves.

Organic Prayer Meetings

Finding Organic ChurchFrank Viola has noticed many similar patterns in prayer meetings, and in his book Finding Organic Church, he writes this:

โ€ฆMany Christians have picked up a great deal of artificiality in the way they pray and talk about spiritual matters. This is largely due to imitating bad models. To be more pointed: The way that many Christians pray is abysmal.

I would advise against having meetings where everyone offers a prayer request. Why? Two reasons. First, those meetings will no doubt turn out to be highly religious. (In every โ€œprayer-requestโ€ meeting Iโ€™ve ever been in, the kinds of things that some Christians ask god to do for them range from the ludicrous to the insane.) Second, those meetings will be the first step down a slippery slope that will eventually become the death knell for your group.

Thereโ€™s a great deal of unlearning and relearning that we Christians need when it comes to communing with the Lord. If the truth be told, most Christians would do well to allow their way of praying to go into death.

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Do you what to talk to God like you talk to a friend? Do you want to see more answers to prayer?

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Lord, Teach us to Pray (Luke 11:1)

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Lord, Teach us to Pray (Luke 11:1)

If there is one thing we learn from the Lord’s prayer in Luke 11:1, it is that the best ways to think about prayer is to view it as simply having a conversation with God.

If you can talk to a spouse, coworker, friend, or neighbor, they can talk to God in prayer. No special training or vocabulary is needed. No special posture and location are necessary.

Whatever you would talk to a friend about, you can talk to God about. Wherever you might speak to a friend, you can speak to God.

You do not need to be gathered together with others, though sometimes that is helpful for the sake of the conversation. You do not have to be in a certain building or room, though sometimes, that is helpful so you can focus on what is being said.

Even still, some people are uncertain of what to say when they pray, since having a conversation with God seems different than having a conversation with a friend. So it is helpful to give people some ideas of the sorts of things that can be said in conversation with God. In the next few posts, we will look at four places in Scripture some people find helpful as they learn to converse with God.

Lord, Teach us to Pray

The Disciplesโ€™ Prayer

The passage that many people think of as The Lordโ€™s Prayer might better be called โ€œThe Disciplesโ€™ Prayer.โ€

Near the middle of the three years of Jesusโ€™ ministry, His disciples noticed that He spent a lot of time in prayer, and they came to Jesus, asking Him to teach them to pray (Luke 11:1).

They did not ask this because they did not know how to pray, for the Jewish people had many daily and weekly times of prayer. But most of these prayers were memorized and recited, and were formal, ceremonial prayers for particular events and holidays.

The disciples must have noticed that Jesus prayed differently. He seemed to talk with God as a man talks to a friend, or a Father. For Jesus, prayer was natural and normal, and the disciples wanted to pray this way as well.

So Jesus taught His disciples how to pray (Luke 11:2-4; Matt 6:9-13).

He lists several things to say to God, and several types of prayer requests. But despite how many use this prayer today as something that should be recited on a regular basis, I donโ€™t think Jesus was telling His disciples exactly what they should pray, but was giving them examples of the sorts of things they could pray for. He wasnโ€™t giving them exact words to pray for, but was giving them broad themes and ideas.

And what are these themes and ideas?

They include giving praise and glory to God, and requests for the rule and reign of God to expand on earth, that God provide for our daily needs, and that He would forgive us for the ways we have failed to keep His will, and protect us from further failures. These are basic requests, and can be prominent themes of any personโ€™s prayer life.

When you pray, you can pray similarly. Don’t worry too much about what you are saying or how to say it. Just talk to God the way you would talk to anyone else about whatever is on your heart and mind. That’s how Jesus prayed, and how He taught us to pray as well!

Now, the Lord’s Prayer contains some dangerous prayer requests, which we will look at next time.

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Pitfalls of Prayer Meetings

By Jeremy Myers
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Pitfalls of Prayer Meetings

I have heard thousands of prayers in prayer meetings that are genuine, heart-felt, meaningful, conversations with God about Who He is, what He has done, and how we would like Him to help us live life and serve Him better.

But even where the prayers are meaningful and heart-felt, there are still numerous pitfalls to prayer meetings.

Pitfalls of Prayer Meetings
Pitfall - One of my favorite games as a kid.

Questioning Prayer Meetings

For example, have you ever noticed that the true โ€œprayer warriorsโ€ of the typical church rarely come to โ€œPrayer meetingsโ€?

Have you ever wondered why? Have you ever thought it odd that when you ask your pastor to pray for a pressing need in your life, he writes it down, and then says, โ€œIโ€™ll bring it up at the prayer meeting this Wednesdayโ€?

Has it ever seemed strange to you that although there can be dozens of people out in the community loving others, serving the poor, meeting needs, and helping the homeless, the โ€œtruly spiritual peopleโ€ are those who come to church on Wednesday night for the prayer meeting where they pray for the poor, the homeless, and the other needs of the community? Why are the ones who pray about these needs more spiritual than the ones who actually go meet the needs?

Prayer Meeting Slogans

And then there are all the sermons and slogans about how the church advances on its knees, how kneeling men are real men, and how the attendance at the prayer meeting reveals the true health and vitality of the church. Aside from the fact that I am just not sure these ideas are true, it seems that these sermons and slogans really donโ€™t get people to pray more, but simply guilt them into showing up for another meeting in the church building.

Prayer Meetings Teach Bad Prayer Habits

The main reason a church might want to consider letting prayer meetings cease is that even when prayer meetings are healthy and people donโ€™t learn bad types of praying, they still teach people bad habits about prayer.

Biblical Prayer Posture
Is bowing the head, clasping the hands, and closing the eyes the Biblical prayer posture?

Rather than show people how to pray without ceasing, they teach people that there is a time and a place and a particular method for prayer. We must sit in a circle, clasp our hands, close our eyes, bow our heads, and only then, will God hear our prayers. Prayer meetings teach people that prayer is more effective when there are several people gathered in a room praying about something. They teach people that aside from attending church on Sunday morning, the next most important thing in their life as a follower of Jesus is attending church on Wednesday night.

But none of this is actually true!

Prayer is vital, and gathering with other believers is vital, and praying together with others is vital, but none of this requires a regularly scheduled prayer meeting, as practiced in some churches today. Learning how to pray, learning what to pray for, and learning how prayer is answered, might best be accomplished in other ways.

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How NOT to do a Trunk-or-Treat for Halloween

By Jeremy Myers
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How NOT to do a Trunk-or-Treat for Halloween

[Note: This is a post from a few years ago… but it is appropriate for this year as we near the celebration of Halloween.]

I really want to like the institutional church. Honestly, I do. I want to see all the good it does for people and for the community.

But it seems like every time I give traditional church another chance to reveal Jesus, I get the opposite instead.

Here is what happened:

Tonight was Halloween

We take our girls Trick-or-Treating tonight. We stayed conservative, so no big witch hats or anything scary. Just 3 innocent cow-girls. If you condemn that sort of thing, you should probably just stop reading here. Or you could go read this post about why Christians SHOULD celebrate Halloween.

Here is a picture of my girls before we left:

Trunk or Treat

And though there is six inches of snow on the ground, and it was only 35 degrees, we planned on going to two locations:

First, we went Trick-or-Treating in the neighborhood of a friend of ours. After that, we went to a “Trunk-or-Treat” at a megachurch in town.

Think of it as a competition between the secular version of Halloween and the Christian alternative…

Here is how both went:

“Secular” Trick-or-Treating: Warm Smiles, Lots of Candy, and Free Pizza

Handful of CandyWe met Monica and her daughter at her house at about 4:30.ย She instantly introduced us to several of her neighborhood friends and their kids, and together, we all walked around the neighborhood, chatting, laughing, telling jokes, meeting people, and petting dogs, while our girls got handfuls of candy from almost every door.

We did meet some ghouls and goblins, ghosts and witches, and even Satan’s bride, but none of them tried to kill us, convert us, or even cast a spell on us (that I’m aware of).

We got pretty cold after about an hour, so Monica invited us back to her place for pizza and hot chocolate. We tried to offer her some money, but she refused.

While we waited for the pizza to arrive, Trick-or-Treaters continued to come to her door. She knew about half of them by name, and chatted with several parents while giving out handfuls of candy to their kids.

At around 7:00, we were planning on going to the church Trunk-or-Treat, and asked Monica if she and her daughter wanted to join us. They are not “Christians” and so we thought maybe this might be a good opportunity to introduce her to church. But she said she had a night class she had to go to, and so we said our good-byes, andย left for the megachurch and their Trunk-or-Treat.

How glad I am that she did not come!

Church Trunk-or-Treat: Night of the Living Dead

A Trunk-or-Treat, in case you don’t know, is where a church offers an alternative to Trick-or-Treating. The church gets a hundred people or so to park their cars in the church parking lot, and then they hand out candy from the trunks of their cars. Usually, the church also has games and other activities for the kids.

At this church, here is how the Trunk-or-Treat worked: They had about fifty cars in the parking lot all of them weare covered by a cheap van insurance, and at about half of them, you had to stand in a line for about 10 minutes while kids played little games. When you finally got up to the car trunk, and played the game, the church members standing there gave each kid one piece of candy.

Yes. You read that right. One piece of candy.

And not snack-size candy bars, or little individual-size boxes or bags of candy, but a single piece of candy. Like a single Jolly Rancher. Or a single, individually-wrapped Lifesaver. Or a Dum-dum. Or one of those tiny Tootsie Rolls. The most substantial item was probably the Hershey Miniature bars. Not the Snack Size bars. The Miniatures. Like this one:

Hershey MiniatureBut of course, every single car had a “Jesus Loves You” sign next the candy. And I think we got invited to church about four or five times. We also received several Gospel Tracts along with the tiny piece of candy.

This whole time, remember, it was 35 degrees. We were freezing. So we went over to where they had some food like hotdogs and hamburgers, but they were selling these for $2 each. We didn’t need to warm up that bad, and so went inside the church gymnasium where there were supposed to be some better games where kids could win some bigger pieces of candy.

As we entered, there was a little booth where church members invited us to “sign up” for the church newsletter so they could contact us and invite us to their church. They also had a “Donations Accepted” box. I refused to sign up for junk mail, and refused to give a donation. I couldn’t help remembering that Monica had given our cold children free pizza and hot chocolate, and when I tried to give her money, she refused.

We went in to the church and discovered that at least in here, the pieces of candy were bigger. They had the actual Snack-Size pieces of candy at these games. So the girls stood in line for the first game, which required them to drop a penny into a fish tank. If the penny landed in a little glass dish on the bottom, they won a piece of candy.

Kahlea, our youngest daughter, went first. She dropped a penny into the fish tank, and the penny did not land in the glass dish. So the church lady looked at my five year-old little girl and said, “I’m sorry. You didn’t win. I can’t give you a piece of candy.”

My wife and I looked at each other in disbelief. WHAT?

So our other two daughters gave it a try, and both of them were able to get a penny onto the dish. They both got a Reese’s Peanut Butter Cup. I looked at Kahlea. She was about to burst into tears. Thankfully, the lady behind the fishtank noticed this and gave Kahlea a second try, and much to my relief, Kahlea got the penny on the dish and got a Peanut Butter Cup.

At the second game, they had to toss some large rings made of straw onto a bale of hay which had some little stakes in it. To win a piece of candy, they had to get a ring around a stake. At this game, only Kahlea was successful, and so only she was given a piece of candy. The older two girls were not given a second chance. They walked away looking disappointed.

At the third game, they had to toss some stuffed pumpkins into a basket, which had been turned sideways and was already half-full of pumpkins. None of the girls were successful here, and so nobody got candy. I was starting to get frustrated. I wanted to yell, “Just give the kids some damn candy!” Hmmm… Maybe that witch from the neighborhood did cast a spell on me…

Then we noticed a large crowd of parents and children at a big game table in the center of the Gymnasium. We walked over there, and on the table sat every child’s dream: buckets and buckets of candy. There were three tables set up around a “Wheel-of-Fortune” spinning wheel, and on each table sat four buckets, each one overflowing with candy. This looked promising.

I should not have got my hopes up. I forgot where I was: In the land that promises much, but gives little.

The game was a Roulette type game. Six children got to play each round, two at each table. Each one was given a little beanbag pumpkin, and set it on a number from 1 to 12. Then when all six children had made their choice, a church lady spun the wheel, which also had the numbers 1 to 12 on it, and if any child had chosen the number which the wheel landed on, they got to pick one piece of candy from the overflowing buckets.

We waited in line for five rounds before our girls got their turn. In those five rounds, not a single child won a piece of candy. The odds of winning here at the megachurch seemed lower than the odds of winning in Vegas. Not surprisingly, when our girls got their chance, nobody won again.

At this point, Wendy and I decided to leave. Before we did, she took the younger two girls to the bathroom, where two church ladies yelled at them for “cutting in line” when, by all appearances, there was no line.

As I waited for her to come out from the bathroom, I overheard two mothers talking about how disappointed their children were at not winning any candy.

Yes. Mine too.

On our way back out the car, my wife looked over at me and said, “Well, at least it’s better than the crusades.”

We had a good laugh.

Happy Halloween

Look … I don’t care if your church wants to host an alternative to Halloween, such as a “Trunk-or-Treat” or “Harvest Party” or even a “Hallelujah Party” (gag).

But if you do, try to make your Halloween alternative better than anything the world has to offer.

If you have “Jesus loves you” plastered on every vehicle at your Trunk-or-Treat, you better be giving out truckloads of candy. If you have silly little games, fine. But don’t ever make kids walk away from them empty-handed.

If you think Halloween is some sort of contest between Jesus and the devil, just think of candy as the way children keep score.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: children, church, Discipleship, evangelism, Halloween, ministry

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The Fishing Church

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The Fishing Church

The way we often use our Bibles makes no sense. We often hear it argued in Christianย circles and churches that to be truly Biblical, we have do things as Jesus did them, or as the early church did them. This is especially true, we are told, when we read about Jesus giving instructions to His disciples. โ€œWeโ€™re are His disciples, too,โ€ the argument goes. โ€œSo we need to follow the same instructions that Jesus gave His disciples.โ€

This is all fine in theory.

The problem is when you try to consistently apply it.ย ย Take Luke 5:1-11 as an example. In this text, we see Jesus preaching from a boat after instructing His disciples to launch out a bit from shore. Maybe to follow the instructions of Jesus today, we should start having โ€œboat churches.โ€ (Actually, I hear that certain cruise lines have on-board chaplains. Thatโ€™s a job I want! After all, I would be following the instructions of Jesus!)

But Jesus goes on.ย After He finishedย teaching,ย He told them to go fishing.ย If we want to obey Jesus, I suppose we should do the same. (To be honest, this is not a bad idea. Most churches are struggling to attract men. More might show up if we went fishing.) But of course, we would not be able to use rods and reels, since the disciples used a net. And of course, they were fishing in the middle of the day, which is a really bad time to fish, but…it’s what Jesus told His disciples to do.

I know, I know. I can hear it now.ย Howls of โ€œYou donโ€™t understand! You canโ€™t read the Bible that way!โ€ Some reader somewhere isย muttering about how I need instruction onย the difference between “prescriptive” passages and “descriptive.”

So explain foot washing ceremonies to me. And why do so many churches feel we must wave Palm branches on Palm Sunday? And whatโ€™s up with the anointing with oil for healing? And why do we dunk new converts under water?ย  And why do we have gleaming white buildings with giant steeples, multi-colored stained glass, and cushioned pews? Oh, wait. Scratch that last one. Thatโ€™s not in the Bible (Though I once had someone argue with me that it wasโ€ฆ).

But if you are in a church that does these sorts of things, and you try to get rid of them, you will get branded as a heretic for trying to disobey the instructions of Jesus. Well, if that’s the case, you better break out the fishing nets too.

Here is the issue: Why do we copy some of the actions of the disciples, but not others? Why do we follow some of the instructions of Jesus to His disciples, but not others?

Iโ€™ll tell you why. There are three reasons:ย tradition, politics, and money.

I’ve been doing a lot of reading on church history recently (for that book I’m writing…Close Your Church for Good), and it constantly amazes me how much of what we do “in church” isย a result ofย tradition (so much for Sola Scriptura) which developed 1000-1500 years ago as a result of a politician or priest who wanted more power or more money.

Look around when you next attend church and while thinking about various details or activities, askย “Why do we do this?” and “What would happen if we did away with it?” You’ll be surprised at how many nonessentials there really are.

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This post is based on the Grace Commentary for Luke 5:1-11.

God is Redeeming Books, Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: Theology of Jesus, Theology of the Church

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