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The Atheist-Sensitive Church

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The Atheist-Sensitive Church

Jim & Casper Go to Church - an atheist and a Christian talk about churchI recently readย Jimย & Casper Go to Church by Jim Henderson and Matt Casper. Not only did I thoroughly enjoy the book, but I also appreciate the various blogs managed by Helen (see chapter 5 in the book) over at Off The Map. Go check them out.

The set up for the book is that Jim Henderson “rented the soul” of Matt Casper on EBay for $504. ย Jim took Matt to several churches around the country to see what Matt thought of Christianity and the way we “do church.” The book records what happened.

Encouraging Things about Jim & Casper Go to Church

Theย two main things I took away fromย this bookย is that there is incredible value in (1) visiting other churches, and (2) inviting (or hiring) people who don’t believe the way we do to come and brutally critique our churches.ย Doing these two things would probably change the way most of us do church, and for the better. (As a side note, check out what LeadershipNow says about why businesses should hire “Insultants.” The same thing applies to churches.)

What I found mostย encouraging about the book is that Matt Casper, the Atheist, had many of the same critiques of modern “churchianity” as I do. Since I want to embrace and engage people just like Matt Casper, it was encouraging to see that in some ways, I am on the right track. His concerns about what is going on inย the churches he visited with Jim areย similar to many of theย concerns I have.

Challenging Things aboutย Jim & Casper Go to Church

The most challenging aspect of the book is how Jim, the Christian, rarely tried to correct or fix Casper’s views. Casper, as an “outsider” really did misunderstand what some churches were doing and why. I sometimes found myself thinking, “Why doesn’t Jim explain that to Casper?”

But at the end of the book (pp. 149-150), Jim explains why he didn’t.

There are three basic reasons: First,ย when people visit a church, they generally don’t have someone there to answer their questions and refute their misconceptions.ย Second, most Christians in the pews wouldn’t know how to respond to Casper anyway. Third, most of us Christians are too defensive and argumentative toward people who criticize the church. Instead of trying to develop genuine relationships with people, we most often try to win arguments. That’s no way to reach out. Rather, we should let their critiques stand, and maybe change the way we do some things.

I could go on and on about this great little book (even though there were some things I disagree with). Let me just give you a few of the best quotes:

Jim: “A while back (1,700 years to be exact) the church drifted into the religion business. I call it beliefism — the worship of the right beliefs — and what you’re hearing today is a version of beliefism. Rather than Christians giving priority to what we do, we’ve been taught a view that tells us what’s really important to be known for is what we believe” (p. 7).

Casper: “Is that what Jesus told you guys to do? Put on aย  Christian rock show that’s visually and sonically indistinguishable from a non-Christian rock show, change the words, and call it church? Is that pulled from the Bible?” (p. 18; cf. similar statements on pp. 39, 67).

Casper: “Outreach only lasts so long. The first step is always pretty good, polite outreach: ‘Would you like to come check out our church?’ Then it’s ratcheted up a notch: ‘Have you thought about where you’ll spend eternity?’ And then, they throw in the towel: ‘Have fun in hell, sinner!’ Maybe I’m exaggerating, but you get my drift” (p. 95).

Casper: “I understand that Christians believe Jesus was free of sin, but my impression is that he didn’t focus on that. He wasn’t like, ‘Look at me! No sin at all! Be just like me!’ Based on what I’ve read, his main thing was going out and helping the poor and those who were suffering, and instructing others to do the same” (p. 100).

Casper (note this from an Atheist!): “If the Bible is really the Word of God, it’s very, very important to not take it out of context. I mean, that’s the rule that applies to most every phrase ever said, so you’d think it’d apply tenfold to the Bible! …You can’t take a snippet of the Bible out of context and misuse it, or spin it, to support your particular pitch. That’s twisted” (p. 141).

The book abounds with such insights from an Atheist. I recommend reading it, and then going out and finding an Atheist or two to come visit your church and tell you what he or she thinks. Tell them to be brutal.

Then, when they are brutal, don’t try to defend yourself. Just listen. Whatever you do, don’t do this as some sort of marketing pitch to get Atheists to attend your church. That’s just dishonest. Be genuine. Be real. Just try to make friends. Andย if you can’t make friends with atheists, I suggest shutting down your church because you’re not doing anybody any good.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: atheists, Books I'm Reading, Christian books, church growth, Discipleship, evangelism, ministry, Theology of the Church

Don’t Believe the Unexamined Faith

By Jeremy Myers
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Don’t Believe the Unexamined Faith

It has been said that the unexamined life is not worth living.ย In a similar way, I believe that the unexamined faith is not worth believing.

Truth, in my opinion, can stand up to any and every question. I believe that if a person believes something, and is afraid or scared of questions which challenge that belief, and they refuse to consider such questions, they don’t really believe, but instead are brainwashed.

believing or brainwashing - know what you believeThere is a vast difference between believing something and being brainwashed, but on the outside, both look exactly the same. Both types of people hold to certain views tenaciously and use similar terminology to state their views. But someone who believes, does so because of the evidence. Someone who is brainwashed does so in spite of the evidence, and even shuts down (or should I say “shouts down”) anybody who raises questionsย that might challenge their convictions.

Believing vs. Brainwashing

How can you tell whether you believe something or are just brainwashed? You have to ask yourself why you believe what you do, and also how you respond when someone challenges your beliefs.

If you believe because “so-and-so said it” you are probably brianwashed. It doesn’t mean you are wrong, but what you have done is allowed someone else to do your thinking for you. In other words, you are allowing them to write their beliefs on your brain. This is brainwashing at the most basic level.

Also, if someone comes along and challenges your beliefs by raising questions or pointing out areas of weakness in your beliefs, and rather than admit that you don’t have answers to those questions, you ignore the questions, and scoff at the person asking them, and use ad hominem attacks and a variety of other logical fallacies to discredit what they are saying without actually dealing with what they are saying, you have an advanced case of brainwashing.

Know What You Believe and WHY

To really believe something, you not only have to know what you believe, but why you believe it.ย And if the “why” is “So-and-so said it” you better hope that person is completely trustworthy, reliable, and infallible.

But don’t take my word for it. Think it through on your own.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: believe, faith, Theology - General

Manly Valentines Day Gifts

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Ever wonder what a womanย can get forย a manย on Valentine’s Day? The stores are full of things men can get a woman…chocolate, flowers, cards, jewelry…but there is nothing to get for a man. My wife says this is because Valentine’s Day is more for a woman than for a man. Of course, that’s because what a man wants can’t be sold in a store…but that’s all I’ll say about that.

Anyway, if you ladies really want to get a gift for your man, let me suggest the following:

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

What if I told you to Pray Less?

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What if I told you to Pray Less?

I recently heard (#AmazonAdLink) Bob Roberts make the following shocking statement:

“I think all Christians need to pray less. Instead, we need to just shut up and play ball.”

At first, I was shocked, because we so often hear that we need to pray more, and thatย the kingdom of God advances on our knees.

But then I got to thinking about it. I think that many of us substitute prayer for obedience. We need to pray less and obey more.

Pray LessPray vs. Obey?

We know what God wants us to do, but instead of obeying, we pray about it.

Every single one of knows that we are supposed to show love to our friends, coworkers, family members, and neighbors. But instead of actually doing that, most of us pray about it instead.

We say: “Dear God, please help my neighbor with his marital problems. Please help my coworker with her troubled kids. I’ve been praying so long for my father, God. Please do something.”

Does that prayer sound familiar?

Listen to the prayer time in your church this Sunday, or in the Bible Study you attend. I guarantee that in most of these prayer times, someone will pray that God will help the people in your community with their problems and struggles.

Then ask yourself, “What are we as a church, what am I as a Christian, actually doing about these needs ourselves?”

When we pray to God to help others, it is possible that God is “praying” for us to go help others?

How about when someone is hurting, or sick, or in financial need? Do you pray about it, or do you actually help them? What do you think God wants you to do?

Let Me Pray About It

I am constantly haunted by a conversation I witnessed about five years ago between a father and hisย son. (The father was a pastor, by the way.) I was working at a Bible camp, and we needed some staff for the following week. The son asked the father ifย he could stay and help out.ย The fatherย answered, “I’ll pray about it” and walked away.

The son turned to me and said, “That means ‘No.'”

The son had his dad figured out. His dad was using prayer (and God) as a way to spiritualize his own decisions to not grant his son’s requests.

I wonder how often we treat the commands of God this way? Instead of just telling God “No” we tell him “I’ll pray about it.” Prayer, when used in such a way, is a spiritual way of stalling so we don’t have to obey God.

The next time you catch yourself saying (or writing) to someone, “I’ll pray for you” stop and ask yourself if there is something you can actually do for the person instead.

Do you want to pray like never before?

Do you what to talk to God like you talk to a friend? Do you want to see more answers to prayer?

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God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: answers to prayer, Bible Study, Discipleship, love others, pray, prayer, prayer meetings, What is prayer

Start Living Grace

By Jeremy Myers
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Start Living Grace

living gracePreviously I suggested that we stop talking about grace and start living grace.

I am by no means an expert on how to live a life of grace. Up untilย a few months ago,ย the entire focus of my life was to read, write, study, teach, and talk about grace. But despite all this study and reading, I did a very poor job living grace.

Yesterday, I suggested that the more a person talks and writes and proclaims grace, the less they seem to live it. That’s just my experience.

(So, with that being said, let me talk and write some more about grace! Ha!)

Here is how I am trying to learn to live a life of grace.

Living Grace

First, I startedย trying to figure out which sort of people were most often criticized, judged, and condemnedย by theย churches, Christians, radio shows, books, and articles I interact with. These people made my mental “grace list.”

Second, I started praying to see these people as Jesus sees them, and to give me opportunities to get to know them. I suspected that it is much easier to judge a person’s bad theology or bad behavior ifย I don’t actually know them.

Finally, I began toย actively seek out these people to get to know them and befriend them. I set up appointments. I scheduled lunch meetings. I applied for jobs with them so I could work with them and help them. I read their blogs, and interact with them by e-mail (all in a kind, gracious manner!).

Examples of Living Grace

Let me give you some examples of people you could try to develop relationships with: atheists, abortion doctors, homosexuals, pornographers, strippers, prostitutes, drug addicts, alcoholics, people who have different theological views than you do, people with different political views, etc.

There are dozens more. Living Grace

And by the way, if you are going to try to develop friendships with people who are different than you, don’t focus on the things that separate you. Your friendship will last about two seconds if you do that. Just try to get to know them as a person.

Focus on the things you have in common. Try to find out everything you can about them, and who they are. Learn aboutย their dreams, desires, and goals in life. Ask if there is any way you can help them or be of service to them.

The only way to truly teach grace is to engage in living grace among other people.

How are you doing this in your own life?

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, evangelism, grace, homosexuality

Stop Talking About Grace

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Stop Talking About Grace

living graceI had a discussion today with a guy that most Christians love to hate. This man used to be a Christian, but rejected it all about twenty years ago, and now lives as a pot-smoking, cursing, swinging spiritist.

Yet as I talked to him, I found myself thoroughly enjoying the conversation… more than any theological or biblical conversation I have had in the last several years. It was one of the most refreshing and eye-opening discussions I have ever had.

It wasn’t refreshing and eye-opening because of anything I learned from him, but because it gave me a new appreciation into how many Christians treat non-Christians, compared to how many non-Christians treat Christians in return.

He told me about some of the criticism he gets from Christians, and how he just tries to respond with kindness and love. Isn’t it strange that many Christians, who are supposed to be known for our love, really only have love for each other, whereas everyone outside our “group” gets condemned and criticized for their beliefs and behavior?

I have noticed this sort of behavior on many fronts.

I have noticed this not just in my interactions with people at work and with my neighbors, but also online and in movies. As an example, did you see the movie God’s Not Dead? In it, a Christian university student is challenged by an atheist professor to defend his evangelical beliefs.

I found it strange that in the movie, the meanest and rudest people were the atheists. Also, the “token” Muslim family had a father who beat his daughter.

This is the sort of way Christians often portray non-Christians to one-another, which only goes to show that many Christians have absolutely no idea what most atheists and Muslims are like.

The people that Christians most loudly denounce are often some of the most gracious people to be around.

Doesn’t that seem strange?

Those of us who are saved by grace, teach grace, write about grace, proclaim grace, and have “grace” in the names of our churches and ministries, are some of the least gracious people that exist.

Which got me thinking… just like the preacher pounds the pulpit during his weakest points,ย maybe those who talk loudest about grace are trying to compensate for a lifestyle that lacks grace.

live out graceMaybe those of us who talk and write a lot about grace should follow the example of non-believers (and Jesus) and start living grace before we ever start to talk about grace with others.

Besides, living out grace is a better way to teach grace any day.

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: atheists, Discipleship, evangelism, grace, Muslims, Theology of Salvation

My Wife the Church Planter

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My Wife the Church Planter

Wendy MyersMy wife was on the phone tonight with another church planting wife. I overheard some of her discussion, and wow! did I ever marry the right woman!

Actually, I got a little humbled.ย She should be the one planting a church. Of course,ย since church planting is a family thing, she is. But still, I found myself thinking, “Where did she learn all this? I’m the one who has read all the books and gone to all the conferences, but she’s the one who can put words to what we want to do and how we want to do it.” I’m kicking myself for not recording her conversation.

So if you ever have questions about our church planting process, direct them to my wife!

Oh, and she’s beautiful too, isn’t she?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: church planter, Discipleship, Wendy Myers

Glocal

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Glocal

Transformation Bob RobertsA while back I attending Northwood’s Glocal.net Turbo training conference.

When it comes to church planting, I think Bob Roberts has one of the most profound and yet simple approaches to church planting that exists. Every pastor and church planter should read his books Glocalization and Transformation.

Also, he has a new book out called The Multiplying Church, which I haven’t read yet, but should be good.

Multiplying Church Bob RobertsThere were so many things that were said in his training which encouraged and challenged me, I cannot relate them all. However, the one that struck me the most was that Bob believes that postmodernism is a thing of the past, and that it was a blip on the screen compared to what is coming…and the church had better be ready.

Glocalization Rob Roberts I think he is so right about this. Many ineffective churches, ministries, and Christians will still be writing and speaking against the “evils” of postmodernism for another 20-30 years. Meanwhile, the culture has moved on.

But this is just business as usual with the average church. Churches generally run about 30-40 years behind the culture. And when the church finally crafts a good response to what the culture is going through (whether a church embraces the changes or decry them), the culture isn’t listening anymore, because it is on to something else.

Those who will shape the church of the future will recognize that postmodernism is a dead issue now, and the culture has shifted toward something else. What this “something else” is has yet to be determined. But some of us can see it, sense it, and hear it in the people we interact with. And I agree with Bob Roberts: whatever is coming, it will be the biggest thing to happen to the church since the day of Pentecost. Such change will lead to both the death and the resurrection of the church as we know it.

The way things are today — even in the most innovative and effective churches — is not the way things will be twenty years from now. Will you and your church be ready?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Bob Roberts, Church planting, Discipleship, glocal, postmodernism, Theology of the Church

My New Preaching Hero

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My New Preaching Hero

I have certainย Bible teachersย that I listen to all the time, some for the content, some for their style and delivery. Recently, I foundย one whoย has it all. His sermon is 27 minutes long, and is on YouTube for you to view.

After watching this video, you will see that Seminary was a complete waste of time. If you want to preach, all you need to remember is these seven things:

  1. (Mis)read several Bible verses.
  2. Say “Glory be to God Hallelujah” a lot.
  3. Speak in tongues when you get tongue-tied.
  4. Tell Satan to get behind you.
  5. Wave your arms.
  6. Tell people rock music will damn their souls to hell.
  7. Tell people they’re going to hell if they don’t tithe.

If you ever wonder why many people think church is just a religious circus, it because of preachers like this.

I shouldn’t be too hard on the guy though… It’s his first time preaching after all…

My first sermon was terrible as well. It was awful. I was about 14 and I preached to a group of inmates at the Montana State Prison. I remember thinking afterwards, “Let me out of here before they kill me!” I don’t remember what I said, but it was so bad, no one even tried to tell me “Good sermon” afterwards.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: burn in hell, church, Discipleship, humor, Preaching, sermons

Sometimes you just gotta laugh…

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Check out the videos over at the blog of Mike Ellis and the other church for men dudes. I was going to post these videos myself, but just go watch them at Mike’s blog.

By the way, they are doing an awesome job there in Florida. I check outย that blog every day. I think there needs to be a Church for Men in every community in the country since men are one of the largestย “unreached people groups” that exists. Maybe they’re just neglected. Either way, look around your church this Sunday, and ask yourself, “Where are all the men?” I know that in the church I preach at, less than 20% are men. I’m trying to do some things to change that and I’m seeing some more men start to come, but as we all know, change is a slow process. Besides, I don’t have any real authority there…I’m just there for pulpit supply (How’s that for a convenient excuse?).

Hopefully, as I head toward church planting (see my two previous posts), at least one of the churches I plant will be a Church for Men. Thanks, Mike (and Louie and Frank) for leading the way!

P.S., check out www.churchformen.com for more on this. And while you’reย at that site,ย buy David Murrow’s book and read it. I’ve also noticed a new church for men has started up here in Dallas. I need to go check it out.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

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