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Stop Attending Church to Start Spiritual Conversations

By Jeremy Myers
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Stop Attending Church to Start Spiritual Conversations

Stop Attending ChurchNo, I’m not telling you to stop attending church.

You must do what you believe God wants you to do.

If you Stop Attending Church

But if you stop attending church so that you can be the church, it may be the best thing that ever happens to you in your life with Jesus and your evangelistic endeavors.

When I stopped attending church, the number of spiritual conversations I had with people skyrocketed. Previously, when I was a pastor and a regular church attender, I rarely had spiritual conversations with people who were not already in a church.

But after I stopped attending church, and started trying to follow Jesus into the world, the number of conversations I had with people who don’t go to church became a nearly daily occurrence. Now, as I go about my day, run errands, and so on, I have been shocked at how Jesus just seems to insert himself into conversations.

Previously, I used to try to figure out how to “change the subject” from weather and politics to the Bible and Jesus. It was always awkward and unnatural. Now, I sometimes find myself talking about following Jesus outside of “the church” to someone, and I think to myself, “How in the world did we end up here?”

I don’t really know how to explain it.

Yes, I am praying for opportunities to talk with people, and our girls are real outspoken about Jesus, and my wife and I are always carrying around Christian books, so maybe those spark the conversations. But we have always done these things. What changed?

Only one thing. I stopped “going to church” so I could be the church. It’s not always an either-or, but it’s what we did.

People Want to Know why You Stopped Attending Church

When people find out I’m trying to follow Jesus but I don’t “attend church” they are intrigued. They often want to find out more, and the conversation turns to subjects of following Jesus, questions about God, and other spiritual matters.

I make it a point to say that I have not stopped attending church because I hate the church or am running from God. No, I am more involved now with church than ever before. I am trying to follow Jesus in ways that show love to others than ever before. The time and energy I used to devote to attending church I now seek to use in being the church among others.

This sort of conversation usually leads to another conversation, and another, until eventually, we have a relationship, and we hang out, eat lunch together, help each other with work around the yard or house, and so on.

So for me, stopping attending church seems to be a good “conversation starter” with lots of other people who do not go to church.

Have you had experiences like this, where God seems to work in and through your life once you have started “being the church” rather than just “attending church”?

(Note: In the past few years, I have met a few people who were “sent out” by their church as missionaries with this sort of task. They work secular jobs, and just meet regularly with people for discussions. They made it clear to their church that they will not be attending church and will not be trying to convince the people they meet with to attend church. The sending church agrees to this, and supports them in prayer… and sometimes financially. That is awesome!)

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: attending church, be the church, Discipleship, evangelism, following Jesus, mission, Theology of the Church

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What if…

By Jeremy Myers
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What if…

This is from a 2008 post by Perry Noble. I thought it was good then, and it’s still good today.

what if questions about church

I had some “what if” thoughts the other day that I wanted to share…

  • WHAT IF the church really believed that Jesus was as powerful as Scripture says that He is?
  • WHAT IF we were not afraid to BEG GOD for ridiculous things, knowing that He is able?
  • WHAT IF we REALLY believed that Acts 2:41-47 was actually the starting point of all that God wants to do through the church and NOT the watermark?
  • WHAT IF we really believed that a life dedicated to Christ means that we are completely His…not just on Sunday?
  • WHAT IF every church became a cheerleader of other churches and not critics?
  • WHAT IF we really believed the church existed to CHANGE the world and not just to “meet my needs!”
  • WHAT IF we really believe that teenagers and children are worth the investment and poured resources into them instead of making them sell doughnuts in front of department stores?
  • WHAT IF we really believed God’s Kingdom should grow through the church instead of being stagnant?
  • WHAT IF we were willing to lay aside our personal preferences for the sake of reaching those who are far from God?
  • WHAT IF we refused to participate in slandering and tearing down another person?
  • WHAT IF we sought to embrace God’s plan for our lives (and churches) instead of trying to get Him to bless ours?

Those are just some of the things I’ve been wondering.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: church, kingdom of god, ministry, mission, perry noble, Theology of the Church, what if

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Give Gifts to Children in Shoe Boxes

By Jeremy Myers
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Give Gifts to Children in Shoe Boxes

If you are looking for a way to share the love of Jesus with people around the world who are less fortunate than ourselves, I highly recommend participating in Operation Christmas Child.

Operation Christmas Child is run by Samaritan’s Purse, and provides a way for you to give gifts to children all over the world. Following the directions on their site, you pack a shoe box with gifts, take it to a drop-off center, and then let Samaritan’s Purse do the rest.

Here is a short video about a boy whose life was changed by a shoe box:

We participate in Operation Christmas Child every year, and it is one of the highlights of our Christmas season. Below are some of the things my wife and daughters wrote about packing shoe boxes for children around the world:

The Importance of Giving Gifts to Others

These simple gifts that come is shoe boxes have the potential to open a child’s heart to the love of Jesus Christ. We see so many times in the gospel how Jesus offers a tangible gift of healing before he offers His gift of love, life, forgiveness. I believe these shoe boxes do the same thing.

Operation Christmas ChildChildren all over the world are hurting and broken through no fault of their own. Many have lost all they had in a hurricane, earthquake, or tsunami. Others have gone through a war that ransacked their village and took the lives of their family, often leaving them orphans. Still other children have endured torture at the hands of slave owners, or have witnessed torture at the hands of enemies.

Children around the world are asking, “Is there anyone that loves me?” , “Am I worthwhile to anyone?”, “Where is a God that loves me?”, “What did I do wrong?”, ” Why is this happening to me?”, and “Does anyone care?” These are the cries of so many children’s hearts, and by sending a shoe box to them, we can help provide some answers to these questions.

How can a simple shoe box answer any of these hard questions from children?

First, these shoe boxes bring HOPE! When we first started making these shoe boxes several years ago, my girls would ask why we couldn’t send them more, like a trunk load of stuff to each kid. “This toothbrush won’t last forever, mommy,” they would say. “And what happens if they loose this necklace, or if this bear gets too dirty? Mommy, this is not enough. If this is all they get for Christmas, we need to send them more. Much more!”

With tears in my eyes I answered that although I so badly wanted to adopt all the children of the world and give them all warm homes, food for their tummy, and loving arms to wrap around them, I cannot. As much as I would love to be able to send billions of dollars to heal their war torn lands and fix their water problems, I can’t.

But there is one thing I could do, I told my girls, I could send them HOPE, and hope is a powerful gift. Hope in ones heart allows you to persevere when you otherwise would not, it allows you to find joy in the most troubling of times, and HOPE in a loving God allows you to believe that someone loves you, cares for you, wants the best for you, and will be there for you forever. This is hope that moves mountains.

operation Christmas Child shoe boxes

No, a shoe box won’t feed the hungry child who receives it. The shoe box won’t educate them, it won’t get them parents. Although there are actually many stories where children do find parents through these shoe boxes. Check out the video below.

But one thing a shoe box does bring is hope, and as my girls now know, hope–especially in a living and loving God–is the most powerful thing we can offer someone.

So this year as you start the process of getting gifts for your family, please also begin a tradition of giving shoe boxes to children around the world that are longing to feel that powerful, tangible touch from the God that loves them. Please give the gift of a shoe box that will lead to the gift of everlasting life.

How Our Family Packs Shoe Boxes

Our family has packed shoe boxes for 15 years, and every year our girls say it is their favorite part of Christmas. Really! They plan and prepare for packing shoe boxes all year long. They save their money to buy small gifts. They look for the biggest shoe boxes in the stores. They look for toys and gifts on sale or on clearance that would fit well into their shoe boxes.

There are many ways to pack a shoe box, but the best way is straight from your heart. At the time of this post, there is only ONE MONTH until the collection time for shoe boxes. The National Collection Week is November 18-25, so you might want to get started today by clicking on the links below that will take you to the Operation Christmas Child site for all the information you will need to get started. If you have any questions about shoe boxes, what to put in them, or how the process works, I would be happy to answer them in the comments section below.

shoe boxes operation christmas child

I will leave you with the words of my daughters. When asked to write why they believe shoe boxes are important this is what they wrote.

Kahlea (age 7)

I think it is good to give kids shoe boxes because it is very important to them. It means a lot to them. It makes them happy and gives them the hope that Jesus and others love them.

Selah (age 9)

I think it is important to pack shoe boxes because little things make kids happy and gives them hope. It is also fun to pack shoe boxes!

Taylor (age 11)

I think it is important to send shoe boxes because it gives the kids joy when they have so much sadness. the shoe boxes also teach them that Jesus loves them and that they are important. And it gives them hope, which is a powerful thing when everything is going wrong around you.

From the mouth of babes comes the simple truth that a small gesture of love reaps the large harvest of hope in a loving God.

Please take some time to visit the links below on how to pack a shoe box, and to learn about how you can help children around the world find hope in a God that loves them. The first link has a video about how to pack a shoe box.

Shoe Box Links

  • How to Pack a Shoe Box
  • Drop Off Locations
  • Frequently Asked Questions

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Christmas, Discipleship, gifts, hope, love, ministry, mission, operation Christmas child, shoe boxes

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A Tale of Two Christmas Eve Services

By Jeremy Myers
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A Tale of Two Christmas Eve Services

On Christmas Eve last year, my family and I participated in two Christmas Eve services.

The first lasted about five hours. The second was only one hour.

The first required getting up at 5:30 AM. The second required us to have a rushed dinner so we could leave the house at 5:30 PM.

Christmas Eve ServiceThe first was noisy, crowded, and eventually became a little stinky, smelly, and dirty. The second had subdued lighting, padded seats, and professional-quality Christmas music.

At both we were surrounded by complete strangers (we are new to town), but in the first, many people greeted us with warm smiles and numerous greetings of “Merry Christmas!” At the second, nobody greeted us at all, except for a guy who shook our hand as we entered the building by saying, “Welcome!”

The Second Christmas Eve Service

You might recognize some of the tell-tale signs of the second Christmas Eve service. Yes, it was a traditional Christmas Eve Service at a local church. They had the tree, the lights, the Christmas Carols, and about 100 people dressed up in their holiday best. Scripture passages were read. Songs were sung. It was a beautiful performance.

…And it was a performance.

At the beginning, the band entered the stage from the wings, and the lead guitar player said this, “We’re glad you are hear, and we hope you enjoy this Christmas Special we have prepared for you. All you need to do is sit back, relax, and enjoy the music. Near the end of the hour, there will be a song which you will be invited to sing along with. After that, you can go home, enjoy your Christmas presents and stocking stuffers.”

Then they launched into the music, and they played wonderfully well for about an hour. Several of the song I had never heard before, but were done quite well. Then, as promised, we were invited to stand and sing the closing song, Joy to the World. The pastor then got up, and thanked us for coming, and invited any of us who were visiting to join them on Sunday morning for their church service. With that, we were dismissed.

On the way home, our girls voiced two complaints. First, the church didn’t have any candles for us to hold, and second, they didn’t even sing Silent Night. I was actually disappointed with both of those things as well. Churches, please bring back the candles that we get to hold, and sing more of the traditional Christmas songs!

But all in all, it was what many Christians around the country experience for a Christmas Eve Service.

The First Christmas Eve Service

Christmas Eve ServiceBut what about that first Christmas Eve Service we went to at 5:30 AM?

Well, it was something our neighbor told us about. We gathered with a bunch of other people from our town in the local gymnasium of the Junior High School to put together boxes of food and gift bags for over 250 needy families in our town.

I estimate that about 500 people showed up to help. I have rarely seen so many people with so much Christmas joy. There were smiles on everyone’s faces, with laughter and shouts of “Merry Christmas!” all around. One thing that surprised me most was the number of young people there. I estimate that well over half the people who were there were under twenty years old. These were high school and junior high kids who showed up at 5:30 AM on one of their days off from school to help prepare gift boxes for the needy in the community!

Wendy and the girls and I got to put together about 10-15 boxes of food and gifts, and then we went and delivered them to five different families. They were all quite needy, and when we brought the gifts to their doors, everyone said, “Merry Christmas!” and “Thank you so much!” At one house, a nine-year old girl came out and said to our oldest daughter, “I don’t know you, but I am going to hug you anyway.” And Taylor hugged her right back.

A couple of the houses we entered reeked from stale smoke, rotting food, and sick cats. The stench in one reminded me of the smell that might have accompanied the place of Jesus’ birth.

But at every place, we were greeted with Christmas cheer, and we felt the Spirit of Christmas well up in our hearts as well.

Which Christmas Eve Looked More Like Jesus?

As I sat through the second Christmas Eve Service at the local church, I could not help but notice the stark contrast between the two Christmas Eve “Services” we had participated in that day.

Only one of them actually had any service. The other was a performance.

One of them was full of Christmas cheer, joy, love, and generosity. The other was… well… I saw some smiles and handshakes, but overall, the attitude was fairly hushed and “holy.”

One of them helped the poor, hungry, and needy in our community in a tangible way. The other helped some church musicians put on a mini concert. I am sure it lifted some spirits, but everyone sure rushed out of there pretty quickly afterwards…

Which Christmas Eve service looks more like Jesus? Which one looks more like what the church is supposed to be and do as we follow Jesus? Which one better represents the Kingdom of God in this world?

As we drove home after the second service, I asked the girls that if they could only do one or the other next year, which one would it be?

The decision was unanimous: they wanted to help the people in the community.

Our Third Christmas Eve Service

candle-flamesI always have to work Christmas Day, and so our family has “Christmas” on December 26th, which makes December 25th our “Christmas Eve.” So on that night, we had our third Christmas Eve Service in our living room with just the five of us.

Among other things, we talked about the birth of Jesus and prayed about other ways we can share His love with people in our community this year.

We also lit candles and sang Silent Night.

What are your Christmas Eve and Christmas Day traditions? Do any of them help you share the love of Jesus to those around you?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Christmas, Christmas Eve, Discipleship, looks like Jesus, mission, service

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Evangelism, Mission, and Gospelism with David Bosch

By Jeremy Myers
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Evangelism, Mission, and Gospelism with David Bosch

We are in a series of posts about how it is better to think of gospelism than evangelism.

Transforming Mission
Boring book cover .. GREAT book

Much of my thinking in the areas of mission, evangelism, and discipleship has been reinforced by David Bosch, and his book, Transforming Mission. Below are a few pertinent quotes. Note that he doesn’t use the term “gospelize” but I have included it in brackets where his thinking helped my thinking in this area.

Later today, I will post a story about one group of people who decided to live the gospel in their community (gospelize), rather than just “evangelize.”

So here are the quotes from David Bosch:

We cannot capture the evangel and package it in four or five “principles.” There is no universally applicable master plan for evangelism, no definitive list of truths people only have to embrace in order to be saved. We may never limit the gospel to our understanding of God and of salvation (p. 420).

Evangelism [is] that dimension and activity of the church’s mission which, by word and deed and in the light of particular conditions and a particular context, offers every person and community, everywhere, a valid opportunity to be directly challenged to a radical reorientation of their lives, a reorientation which involves such things as deliverance from slavery to the world and its powers; embracing Christ as Savior and Lord; becoming a living member of his community, the church; being enlisted into his service of reconciliation, peace, and justice on earth; and being committed to God’s purpose of placing all things under the rule of Christ (p. 420).

Mission [or evangelism] is not narrowed down to an activity of making individuals new creatures, of providing them with “blessed assurance” so that, come what may, they will be “eternally saved.” Mission involves, from the beginning and as a matter of course, making new believers sensitive to the needs of others, opening their eyes and hearts to recognize injustice, suffering, oppression, and the plight of those who have fallen by the wayside (p. 81).

The primary responsibility of “ordinary” Christians is not to go out and preach, but to support the mission project [i.e., gospelizing] through their appealing conduct and by making “outsiders” feel welcome in their midst (p. 138).

The church is that community of people who are involved in creating new relationships among themselves and in society at large and, in doing this, bearing witness [i.e., gospelizing] to the lordship of Christ (p. 169).

The church is the only society in the world which exists for the sake of those who are not members of it. [Bonhoeffer said] “The church must share in the secular problems of ordinary human life, not dominating, but helping and serving” (p. 375).

Mission [gospelizing] is the church sent into the world, to love, to serve, to preach, to teach, to heal, to liberate. …Evangelism is integral to mission. …One may never isolate it and treat it as a completely separate activity of the church (p. 412).

Evangelism is only possible when the community that evangelizes – the church – is a radiating manifestation of the Christian faith and exhibits an attractive lifestyle. …If the church is to impart to the world a message of hope and love, of faith, justice, and peace, something of this should become visible, audible, and tangible in the church itself (p. 414).

A talk-alike, think-alike, look-alike congregation may reflect the prevailing culture and be a club for religious folklore rather than an alternative community in a hostile or compromised environment. …The focus in evangelism should, however, not be on the church but on the irrupting reign of God (p. 415).

[Mission] is the good news of god’s love, incarnated in the witness of a community, for the sake of the world (p. 519).

See more on this gospelism series:

evangelism is gospelismEvangelism is Gospelism (Part 1)
Evangelism is Gospelism (Part 2)
Evangelism is Gospelism (Part 3)
Evangelism is Gospelism (Part 4)
Evangelism is Gospelism (Part 5)
Evangelism is Gospelism (Part 6)

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The entire course is free for those who join my online Discipleship group here on RedeemingGod.com. I can't wait to see you inside the course!

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: David Bosch, Discipleship, evangelism, good news, gospel, gospelism, mission, missional

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