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Is Hell Eternal? What Scripture Says About Forever

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Is Hell Eternal? What Scripture Says About Forever

Is hell eternal? For many Christians, the answer seems obvious. They were taught that people who do not believe in Jesus will be tormented in fire forever, with no hope of escape and no end to the pain. Others have heard that hell is real but temporary, or that God will eventually destroy the wicked so that they no longer exist. And still others wonder if hell will one day be emptied altogether. These are not small questions. What we believe about the eternal destiny of people says a great deal about what we believe about God.

In this post, I want to look at what Scripture says about whether hell is eternal. I will briefly describe the main answers Christians give, and then explain the view I hold. My short answer is this: the people who reject God will exist forever, because God raises everyone from the dead. But they will not be tortured forever by God. And even in that eternal existence, they will never be beyond the reach of His love. I believe this view takes the warnings of Scripture seriously while also taking seriously what Jesus reveals about the character of God.

Why People Ask Whether Hell Is Eternal

Most people who ask whether hell is eternal are not trying to escape the teaching of the Bible. They are trying to reconcile two things that seem impossible to hold together. On the one hand, they believe that God is love, as John says (1 John 4:8). On the other hand, they have been taught that this same God will torture billions of people for all eternity because they did not believe the right things during a few short decades on earth. Something about this does not fit, and many sincere Christians feel the tension deeply.

I believe this tension is a good thing. It is a sign that the Spirit is working in our hearts, teaching us to see God as Jesus revealed Him. If it would be monstrous for a person to torture someone for even a short time, it would be far more monstrous for God to torture someone forever. Since God is love, there is no cruelty in Him. So when a teaching about hell makes God look worse than the worst human tyrant, we have good reason to go back to Scripture and ask whether we have read it correctly.

Three Answers to the Question “Is Hell Eternal?”

Three paths splitting in the mist, picturing three answers to whether hell is eternal

Christians have generally given three answers to this question. The first is the traditional view, often called eternal conscious torment. It teaches that hell is a place of everlasting punishment, where the unredeemed suffer forever. The second is annihilationism, also called conditional immortality. In this view, the wicked are punished for a time and then destroyed, so that they cease to exist. Hell is eternal in its result, but not in its experience. The third is universalism, which teaches that hell, if it exists at all, is temporary and corrective, and that God will eventually bring every person into His kingdom.

Each of these views has thoughtful defenders, and each tries to honor certain texts of Scripture. I describe all three in more detail, along with a fourth view, in Three Views on Hell. But here is the short version of why I do not hold any of them. I do not hold the traditional view, because God does not torture people. I am not an annihilationist, because God is not a destroyer of the people He made. And I am not a universalist, because love cannot be forced. If God loves us, He will not override our freedom to reject Him.

What Does “Dead” Mean in the Bible?

Much of the debate about whether hell is eternal comes down to the meaning of death. Annihilationists often assume that if the wicked “die,” they must cease to exist. But in Scripture, the word “dead” does not mean “non-existent.” A dead body still exists. You can see it and touch it. Instead, “dead” means lifeless, or no longer able to do what it was made to do. Paul writes to the Ephesians that God made them alive when they “were dead in trespasses and sins” (Eph 2:1). They were not non-existent. They were living in a way that God never intended.

This helps us understand the warnings of Scripture. When God told Adam that he would die in the day he ate from the tree (Gen 2:17), Adam did not drop dead. Instead, his life became filled with toil, pain, and frustration. In a sense, physical death was later given as a kind of mercy, so that humans would not have to live forever in that condition. And physical death is not the end. Jesus said that “all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28). Some will rise to life and some to condemnation (John 5:29), but everyone will be raised.

The Second Death and Everlasting Death

A dark lake at dusk with a red glow, picturing the second death and the lake of fire

So what happens to those who are raised but still want nothing to do with God? Revelation calls this “the second death” (Rev 21:8). I do not believe the second death is annihilation. Being born again is not a second physical birth. In the same way, dying a second time is not a second end to our existence. The second death describes a life that continues to move away from what God intended. It is a life of everlasting death, just as the life Jesus gives is everlasting life. I explain this in more detail in What is the second death?

What might such a life be like? Scripture does not give us many details, and so anything we say here is speculation. But it seems likely that it would be much like life on this earth, with its broken relationships, failed plans, and empty pursuits, except that it goes on without end and no one dies. C. S. Lewis imagined something similar in The Great Divorce, where the residents of hell keep moving farther and farther from one another. He also suggested that hell’s doors are locked by those inside them. They remain there because they prefer their own way to God’s way.

What About “Everlasting Punishment”?

Of course, someone will point to the words of Jesus in Matthew 25. There He says that some “will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Matt 25:46). Doesn’t this settle the question? It is an important text, and we must take it seriously. But we must also read it carefully. The Greek word translated “punishment” is kolasis, which carries the idea of pruning or cutting short. It is a word with correction in the background, and it is not a word for endless torture.

The context also matters. In the Parable of the Sheep and the Goats, Jesus is judging the nations by how they cared for the poor and needy. The background is the message of the prophets, especially Ezekiel, who warned that nations which neglect the poor will be destroyed and left desolate. I believe Jesus is warning about this kind of destruction rather than describing a torture chamber after death. I walk through the whole passage in Is the everlasting fire of Matthew 25:41 a warning about hell? and you may find it helpful even if you end up disagreeing with me.

Is Hell Eternal Because God Keeps People There?

Quote graphic: If hell is eternal, it is not because God stops loving people. It is because God keeps loving them. J. D. Myers

Here is where the question “is hell eternal?” often goes wrong. We imagine God as a jailer who locks people in and refuses to let them out. But the life of everlasting death is not something God inflicts on people. It is the natural result of their own choice to live without Him. God does not separate Himself from them. He is everywhere, and so He is present with them even there. They may feel separated from Him, but the separation is in their experience, not in reality. As Paul writes, nothing in all creation “shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rom 8:39).

This means that if hell is eternal, it is not because God stops loving people. It is because God keeps loving them. Love gives freedom to the one who is loved. The greatest expression of love is to lay down your life for someone, and God did that in Jesus. But when people still choose to go their own way, love lets them go. God does not abandon them. He continues to walk with them into their darkness. But He will not force them to love Him, because forced love is not love at all.

Is There Hope After Death?

Many Christians believe that once a person dies, their destiny is sealed forever. They often point to Hebrews 9:27, which says that “it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment.” I used to read the verse that way too. But this text only tells us that people die once and are not reincarnated. It does not say that the judgment is a single moment after which nothing can ever change. I hold this view loosely, and I cannot prove it from Scripture. But I see no reason to believe that God stops loving people, or stops inviting them home, at the moment of death.

Hell Begins Now, and So Does Eternal Life

One more thing needs to be said. Most of the passages people use to teach about hell are not primarily about the afterlife at all. They are about the destruction and death that come upon people in this life when they live outside the will of God. James can even say that the tongue “is set on fire by hell” (Jas 3:6). Hell is not only a future place. It is a kingdom of death that is already at work in the world, and it ruins lives here and now. I have written about this in my posts on Gehenna and the lake of fire.

But eternal life also begins now, and that is good news. Jesus said that “he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life” (John 5:24). We do not have to wait until we die to escape the kingdom of death. And when Jesus announced His mission in Nazareth, He read from Isaiah 61 but stopped before the words about “the day of vengeance” (Luke 4:18-19; Isa 61:1-2). He came to proclaim liberty, not to threaten torment.

Learning More About Hell

What is Hell? book cover by J. D. Myers

So is hell eternal? I believe that those who reject God will exist forever, because everyone will be raised from the dead. And the kingdom of death they choose may continue forever, if they continue to choose it. But hell is not eternal torture, God is not the torturer, and no one is ever beyond the love of God. This is not a softer gospel. It is a gospel that looks like Jesus, and it calls us to bring the life of the kingdom of heaven into a world that is already experiencing too much hell.

If you want to go deeper, I cover all of this and much more in my book, What is Hell? The Truth About Hell and How to Avoid It. It surveys the main views of hell, looks at every key word and passage in Scripture, and explains how to avoid hell in this life and the next. If you have ever been afraid of hell, or afraid of the God who supposedly sends people there, this book will help you see God as Jesus revealed Him. Get What is Hell? on Amazon and discover the truth about hell.

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Are the Spiritual Gifts for Today?

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Are the Spiritual Gifts for Today?

Are spiritual gifts for today? Most Christians agree that God still gives gifts like teaching, serving, giving, and encouragement. The debate is over the more dramatic gifts, such as tongues, prophecy, healing, and miracles. Some Christians believe these gifts ended with the apostles in the first century. Others believe they are still active, and some even teach that every Christian should speak in tongues. There are strong opinions on every side. It can be hard to know what to think, and the arguments often generate more heat than light.

In this post, I want to look at the main reasons some Christians believe certain gifts have ceased. Then I will explain why I am not convinced by them. My conclusion is that God still gives all of the spiritual gifts. Some of them may simply look different now than they did in the Book of Acts. I also want to show why this question matters for the health of the church. If we say that some of the gifts are no longer given, we may be telling some members of the body of Christ that the church does not need them.

What Cessationists Believe About the Spiritual Gifts

The view that some gifts have ceased is called cessationism. The view that all gifts continue is often called continuationism. Cessationists usually draw a line between two kinds of gifts. On one side are the ordinary gifts, like teaching, service, administration, and mercy. On the other side are the so-called sign gifts, like tongues, prophecy, miracles, and healing. Cessationists believe the sign gifts were needed to launch the church and confirm the message of the apostles. But once the church was established and the New Testament was written, those gifts were no longer necessary. So God stopped giving them.

This view is held by many sincere Bible teachers, and it is not hard to see why it appeals to people. Most of us have seen the gifts abused. We have watched television preachers put on a show, claim healings that never happened, and use the language of the Spirit to raise money. When people see these things, they want to protect the church from error. And one easy way to do that is to say that these gifts are no longer given at all. But as we will see, I do not believe Scripture supports this conclusion.

Three Arguments That Some Gifts Have Ceased

Open hands raised in worship, picturing the question are spiritual gifts for today

The first argument is about frequency. People notice how often tongues, healings, and miracles show up in the Book of Acts, and how rarely they seem to happen today. So they conclude that something must have changed. But this argument depends entirely on who you ask. Some Christian groups say miracles are more common now than in the first century. Whether we agree with them or not, this shows that frequency is not a reliable way to decide what God is or is not doing.

The second argument comes from the words of Jesus, who said, “An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign” (Matt 12:39). Since large crowds today often chase after signs and wonders, some apply this warning to anyone who seeks the sign gifts. The warning may well apply to some people. But the fact that people can chase after signs in the wrong way does not mean the gifts have ended. It only means they can be misused, which was just as true in the first century as it is today.

The third argument is the most important, and it comes from 1 Corinthians 13. We will look at it in the next section.

Are the Spiritual Gifts for Today According to 1 Corinthians 13?

In 1 Corinthians 13, Paul writes that “whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away” (1 Cor 13:8). He then explains when: “when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away” (1 Cor 13:10). Many cessationists believe “that which is perfect” refers to the completion of the New Testament, or to the full establishment of the church. Once that happened, they say, the partial gifts of prophecy and tongues were no longer needed.

But there are several problems with this reading. First, Paul lists knowledge right alongside prophecy and tongues. Hardly anyone who believes prophecy and tongues have ceased also believes that knowledge has ceased. If all three are mentioned together, why would two of them end while the third continues? Second, if “the perfect” refers to the birth of the church, then it had already come by the time Paul wrote this letter. And if it refers to the spread of the church over the whole earth, then it still has not come. In that case, the gifts should still be in use today.

What Is “That Which Is Perfect”?

I believe Paul is most likely looking ahead to the new heavens and new earth, when God makes all things new (Rev 21:1-5). Paul goes on to say, “For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face” (1 Cor 13:12). That sounds much more like the day we stand before Jesus than the day the last book of the New Testament was written. In that perfect future, we will not need the gifts the way we need them now. But until then, while we live in this broken world and in these imperfect bodies, all of the spiritual gifts remain in use.

The Problem with Dividing the Gifts into Categories

A small church group serving in different ways, picturing spiritual gifts in the body of Christ

Part of the problem is the way we sort the gifts. When we divide them into ordinary gifts and sign gifts, we make it easy to set one group aside. But Scripture never sorts the gifts this way. Paul mixes them together in his lists (Rom 12:6-8; 1 Cor 12:8-10, 28; Eph 4:11). When I studied the gifts, I found that every attempt to divide them neatly breaks down somewhere. In one sense, every gift is a sign, because every gift points people to the God who gives it. And if there is no clear line between the gifts, there is no clear reason to say some have ended.

It also helps to recognize that the gifts are broader than we often think. The gift of healing, for example, is not only about miraculous cures. God also uses doctors, nurses, and counselors to bring health to the sick. Many people with this gift work in medicine and psychology. I believe the oil in James 5 points the same way, as I explain in Should Christians anoint with oil for healing? In the same way, the office of Apostle is no longer filled as it was in the first century. But God still sends out missionaries who have the gift of apostleship. I write more about this in Church Leaders Who Help Church Growth.

What About Speaking in Tongues Today?

No gift raises more questions than tongues. I believe that whenever tongues appear in Scripture, they are real human languages, not a heavenly prayer language. At Pentecost, people heard the apostles speaking in their own native languages (Acts 2:6-8). Paul also insists that tongues in a church gathering must be interpreted, which assumes they can be translated. He writes that “tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers” (1 Cor 14:22). And if no one can interpret, the person should “keep silent in church” (1 Cor 14:28).

So are tongues for today? I believe they might be, but probably not in the way they are practiced in many church services. The clearest purpose of tongues in Acts was to help carry the gospel across language barriers. So if God gives this gift today, I would expect to see it used where the gospel is being shared with people who speak another language. I have also written about speaking in tongues during prayer meetings, and why love and understanding must guide how any gift is used.

Why It Matters That All the Spiritual Gifts Are for Today

Quote graphic: The cure for misuse is right use. J. D. Myers

So why does this matter? Because the church is a body, and every part of the body is needed. Paul writes that “the eye cannot say to the hand, ‘I have no need of you’” (1 Cor 12:21). God gives gifts so that the members of the body would care for one another (1 Cor 12:25-26). When we declare that some gifts have ceased, we risk telling some of our brothers and sisters that the body does not need them. That does not protect the church. It weakens it.

Yes, the gifts can be abused, and some people fake them. But the answer to abuse is not to forbid the gifts. Paul did not respond to the chaos in Corinth by shutting down the gifts. Instead, he taught the church to use them in love and in order. He even told them, “do not forbid to speak with tongues” (1 Cor 14:39). The cure for misuse is right use. When we understand what the gifts are and why God gives them, we can use them well. We can build up the church and serve the world, which is what God intended.

Discover Your Spiritual Gifts

What are the Spiritual Gifts? book cover by J. D. Myers

So are spiritual gifts for today? I believe they are, every one of them. The Spirit has not stopped giving gifts to the church. He has not stopped calling each of us to use what we have been given. As Peter writes, “As each one has received a gift, minister it to one another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God” (1 Pet 4:10). The question is not whether God is still giving gifts. The real question is whether we have discovered our gifts and are using them to serve others. If you are not sure what your gift is, you can start with my free online spiritual gift test.

If you want to go deeper, my book What Are the Spiritual Gifts? Discover Your Spiritual Gifts and How to Use Them explains each gift in Scripture and how the gifts work together. It also shows how to avoid the common problems that come with them. You will also find a longer look at tongues and a spiritual gifts inventory to help you find where you fit in the body of Christ. Get What Are the Spiritual Gifts? on Amazon and start using the gifts God has given you.

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Is Christmas Pagan? Saturnalia, December 25, and What Christians Should Do

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Is Christmas Pagan? Saturnalia, December 25, and What Christians Should Do

Every December the old question comes around again: is Christmas pagan? Some Christians are told that the Christmas tree is an idol, that December 25 belongs to a Roman sun god, and that faithful believers should have nothing to do with any of it. Other Christians hear the opposite message, that Christmas is a Christian holiday which the culture has stolen, and so we must put Christ back into Christmas. These two groups sound like they disagree, but they actually share the same assumption. They both assume that if Christmas has pagan roots, then something has gone badly wrong, and Christians must either fix the holiday or abandon it.

I want to suggest a different answer. Yes, Christmas is pagan. It is not that Christmas has recently become pagan, but that many of its customs were pagan long before anyone used them to honor the birth of Jesus. But this is not a reason for Christians to stay away from Christmas. It is one of the best reasons to celebrate it. Christmas is a living picture of what Jesus does with everything He touches. He does not throw it away. He redeems it. And when we see Christmas this way, the lights, the gifts, and the tree all become ways of proclaiming the “good tidings of great joy which will be to all people” (Luke 2:10).

What People Mean When They Say Christmas Is Pagan

When people say Christmas is pagan, they usually mean that much of what we do at Christmas did not come from the Bible. That is true. The Gospels tell us about angels, shepherds, a manger, and wise men from the east, but they say nothing about decorated trees, strings of lights, wreaths on the door, or a man in a red suit who brings presents. These customs came from somewhere, and most of them came from the cultures that surrounded the early church rather than from the church itself.

Across the ancient world, people marked the darkest part of the year. As the days grew shorter and the nights grew longer, many cultures held festivals around the winter solstice. They lit fires and candles to push back the darkness, sang songs, ate rich food, and gave gifts to one another. Greenery that stayed alive through the winter became a sign of life that would return. So when someone says Christmas has pagan roots, they are not making something up. They are describing what the historical record shows, and Christians gain nothing by pretending otherwise.

Saturnalia and the Winter Festivals of Light

Painting of Romans feasting by oil-lamp light under evergreen garlands at a midwinter festival

The best-known of these winter festivals is the Roman Saturnalia. It honored Saturn, the god of agriculture, and it ran for several days in the second half of December. It was the most popular holiday of the Roman year. Courts and schools closed, business stopped, and the whole city gave itself to feasting. Romans visited one another’s homes, sang in the streets, lit candles, and exchanged small gifts. One of the strangest features of the festival was the reversal of roles, in which masters served meals to their slaves and everyone wore the soft felt cap that normally marked a freed slave.

Closely connected to this season was December 25 itself. By the fourth century, and probably earlier, Romans were celebrating that day as the birthday of the Unconquered Sun. The logic is easy to see. After the solstice, the sun begins to climb again and the days begin to lengthen, and so the sun appears to win its battle against the night. Put Saturnalia and the birthday of the sun together, and you have a season full of lights, songs, gifts, feasting, and hope that the darkness will not last forever. Much of what we now think of as Christmas was already part of that season, long before it had anything to do with the birth of Jesus.

How Saturnalia Became Christmas

In the early fourth century, the Emperor Constantine embraced Christianity, and over the following generations the faith went from persecuted minority to favored religion of the empire. This created a practical problem. What should the church do with all the festivals that people loved? The church could have tried to cancel them, but that rarely works with a holiday people have celebrated their whole lives. So instead, Christians gave the old festivals new meaning. The earliest record we have of Christians celebrating the birth of Jesus on December 25 comes from a Roman calendar in AD 336.

Over time, the symbols of the winter festival were, in a sense, baptized. Lights that once celebrated the return of the sun came to celebrate the coming of the Son, who said, “I am the light of the world” (John 8:12). Gifts that once marked a season of merriment came to remind us of the gift of God in Jesus. Evergreens that once spoke of life surviving the winter came to speak of eternal life. Historians still debate how deliberate all of this was, and some argue the date came from early Christian calculations rather than from Saturnalia. But either way, the church did not invent its Christmas customs out of nothing. It took what was already there and pointed it toward Jesus.

Was Jesus Born on December 25?

Probably not. The shepherds were living out in the fields with their flocks at night (Luke 2:8), which fits the warmer months better than the middle of winter. When we put that together with the timing of Zacharias’s priestly service (Luke 1:5, 8-9) and Elizabeth’s pregnancy (Luke 1:24-26, 36), I believe the evidence points to the early fall, around the Feast of Tabernacles. It is fitting that John describes the incarnation this way: “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:14). The Greek word for “dwelt” is skēnoō, “to pitch a tent” or “to tabernacle.” I have written more about when Jesus was actually born, so I will not repeat it all here.

But if Jesus was born in the fall, then December 25 lands close to the time when He was conceived, near Hanukkah, the Jewish Festival of Lights. Hanukkah is not one of the feasts God commanded in the Law of Moses, and yet Jesus went to the temple during the Feast of Dedication (John 10:22) and declared Himself to be the Light of the World. I believe this is very significant. If Jesus could fill a non-biblical holiday with His own meaning, then there is no reason He cannot do the same with a pagan one. I explore Jesus and Hanukkah in another post.

The Christmas Tree and Jeremiah 10

A lit Christmas tree with gifts beneath it in a cozy family living room in the evening

The most common argument against Christmas comes from Jeremiah 10. The prophet writes that “one cuts a tree from the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the ax. They decorate it with silver and gold” (Jer 10:3-4). Many sincere Christians read this and conclude that God condemns the Christmas tree. But read one more verse. These objects “cannot speak; they must be carried, because they cannot go by themselves” (Jer 10:5). Jeremiah is not describing a living tree with lights on it. He is describing a craftsman who cuts down a tree, carves an idol from the wood, overlays it with silver and gold, and fastens it so it will not fall over.

The rest of the prophets describe the same process (Isa 40:19-20; 44:9-20; Hab 2:18-19). So the Christmas tree is not an idol unless someone worships it, and very few people bow down before their Christmas tree. Of course, anything can become an idol. The Apostle Paul writes of people “whose god is their belly” (Php 3:19), but we do not stop eating because some people worship food. The problem is not the object, but the heart. I once had a church member threaten to leave over the tree in our sanctuary, and I tell that story in Are Christmas trees idols?

Jesus Redeems People, and He Redeems Holidays Too

Quote by J. D. Myers over a candle and frosted evergreens: "Jesus does not throw it away. He redeems it."

So why should Christians celebrate a holiday with pagan roots? Because redemption is what Jesus does. To redeem something is to buy it back, so that it comes under new ownership. Scripture says that “the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God” (Rom 8:21), and that through Jesus, God is reconciling “all things to Himself … whether things on earth or things in heaven” (Col 1:20). If Jesus is redeeming all things, then He is redeeming culture too, including the stories, songs, and festivals people have created.

This is the same thing Jesus does with us. Paul lists the sins that once marked the believers in Corinth, and then he writes, “And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Cor 6:11). None of us came to Jesus with a clean history. All of us have pagan roots. If Jesus can take a sinner and make him a child of God, then taking a winter festival and turning it into a celebration of His birth is a small thing by comparison. I have argued before that pagan holidays point to Christ, because the longings behind them are only fulfilled in Him.

If We Reject Everything with Pagan Roots

We should also be honest about where the objection leads. Christians gather for worship on Sunday, a day named for the sun. We meet in buildings shaped by older temple architecture, follow a calendar in which many of the months honor Roman gods, and sing some hymns set to tunes that were once sung in taverns. Paul himself, when he preached in Athens, began with an altar to an unknown god and said, “the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you” (Acts 17:23). If we reject everything with pagan roots, we will have to reject almost everything. I have shown elsewhere that the same logic would also keep us from using a calendar.

So Should Christians Celebrate Christmas?

Not all Christians have thought so. The Puritans in Massachusetts went so far as to outlaw Christmas from 1659 to 1681, and some Christians today still refuse to celebrate it. We should not look down on them. Paul says that “one person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind” (Rom 14:5). If a brother or sister cannot celebrate Christmas with a clear conscience, we can love them and respect their choice without making it the rule for everyone else.

But for most of us, the better way is not to retreat from Christmas, but to celebrate it on purpose. Put up the lights, and let them remind you that Jesus is the Light of the World and that He calls us “the light of the world” too (Matt 5:14). Give gifts, because God gave the greatest gift. Decorate the tree, and remember the tree on which Jesus gave His life. Feast, sing, and visit friends, because the reversal of roles that Saturnalia only played at for a few days is what Jesus actually did when the Lord of all became a servant. The pagan roots of Christmas do not take anything away from this. They only show how far redemption reaches.

Have Yourself a Redeemed Christmas

Cover of Christmas Redemption by Jeremy Myers

So is Christmas pagan? In its roots, yes, and it always will be. But that is not the end of the story, any more than our own pagan roots are the end of ours. Christmas is a pagan holiday that has been bought back by Jesus, and every year it gives us the chance to show our neighbors what a redeemed life looks like. We do not need to be afraid of Christmas, and we do not need to rescue it. We simply need to celebrate it as people who have been redeemed by the One it points to.

If you would like to go deeper, I cover all of this in more detail in my short book, Christmas Redemption: Why Christians Should Celebrate a Pagan Holiday. It looks more closely at the feasts of Israel and the date of Jesus’ birth, at Hanukkah, and at the symbols of Christmas, including the tree, the lights, the gifts, and even Santa Claus. It is a quick read, and it might make a good gift for the friend who keeps sending you articles about Saturnalia. Get Christmas Redemption on Amazon, and have yourself a merry Christmas.

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Naked Grace

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Naked Grace

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(#AmazonAdLink) I interviewed Lucas Kitchen today about his book  (#AmazonAdLink) Naked Grace. In this book, he tells the story of how he discovered the truth about grace, and why it is so important for you and I to learn these truths as well. If you have questions about eternal life, the message of the gospel, what it means to follow Jesus as a disciple, or how grace helps us defeat sin in our lives, listen to this interview.

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As you listen to this podcast, you will discover that there are many similarities between your own story and that of Lucas. Make sure you listen to the end where he tells you how to reach out to him and find more answers to your questions.

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Does Isaiah 33:10-16 teach about hell?

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Does Isaiah 33:10-16 teach about hell?

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(#AmazonAdLink) What is hell bookMy book, (#AmazonAdLink) What is Hell? is now available (#AmazonAdLink) on Amazon. I am doing a series of podcast studies that focus on some of the content from the book. The studies look at the eight key terms that are often equated with hell, and about a dozen key passages that are thought to teach about hell.

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Also, if you are part of my discipleship group, there will be an online course about hell as well.

In this article, we will be looking at a key passage from the Old Testament about the symbolism of fire in the Bible. By understanding how the Bible refers to fire, we can understand what the Bible means when it talks about burning in hell, or the fires of judgment.

The key text we want to study is Isaiah 33:10-16.

Scores of passages from the Hebrew prophets could be considered which provide insight into what a Jewish person thought when they heard someone teach about everlasting fire.

Isaiah 33:10-16 is representative of many of these prophetic texts, and provides perfect insight into what the Bible means when it refers to fire that comes upon people who disobey God.

Isaiah 33:10-16 and Burning in Fire. Is this hell?

Here is some of what Isaiah 33:10-16 says,

You shall conceive chaff, You shall bring forth stubble; Your breath, as fire, shall devour you. And the people shall be like the burnings of lime; Like thorns cut up they shall be burned in the fire. … The sinners in Zion are afraid; Fearfulness has seized the hypocrites: “Who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?” (Isa 33:11-12, 14).

There are three key insights to note from this text which help guide our understanding of all the others.

1. It is Not People who are Burned, but what People Produce

First, Isaiah writes that the people of Zion will “conceive” chaff and “bring forth” stubble.

Isaiah 33:10-16Isaiah uses terms of conception and childbirth to speak of the works that these sinners produce. It is not their lives that are chaff, stubble, and thorns, but what they produce with their lives.

Of course, when your entire life’s work is destroyed, it may seem as if your life is destroyed as well. Indeed, when other prophetic passages (and later New Testament texts) talk about the destruction that comes upon people for their worthless way of living, it sometimes refers to the people themselves being destroyed, rather than the work of their hands.

This is how it feels when, at the end of your life, you discover that everything you have worked for has amounted to nothing.

This is not to say that many prophetic passages (including those in the New Testament) do not have the death and destruction of actual human lives in view. Many of them do, as we shall see. But in each case, the passages are always referring to physical death and temporal destruction rather than to everlasting death or eternal physical torture in flames of fire.

Some of the physical death and destruction during this life does indeed happen with literal flames when war comes upon a nation or its cities, and in such wars, many human beings do die. But once again, it is physical death that is in view, not eternal death in an everlasting place of torment.

2. The word “Everlasting” can refer to an event of limited duration with everlasting effects

But some point to Isaiah 33:14 as evidence that everlasting burning in the pit of hell is indeed what Isaiah has in view. This is the second important point to note from this text. While the term “everlasting” can indeed refer to a period of time that never ends, it can also refer to an event of limited duration which has effects that never end.

This second explanation provides the proper understanding for Isaiah 33:14.

In this text, people who are alive are saying that the works of their lives have been destroyed, and nobody in the future will know or hear of them.

They are afraid because they have lived hypocritical lives, and see that all they have lived and worked for will be consumed by fire, and will have no lasting value, significance, or remembrance for all eternity.

The fire that consumes these people and the works of their hands did indeed go out. It came upon them in 586 BC (when King Nebuchadnezzar invaded and destroyed Judah, along with Jerusalem and the temple) and has long since burned out.

destruction of Jerusalem 586 BC

But none of their work remains. It burned to ashes long ago and has forever been forgotten.

Note that even though Zion was destroyed with “everlasting fire,” the nation, its capitol city Jerusalem, the temple, and even the people of Zion rose again from the ashes.

In 538 BC, the Persian ruler, King Cyrus, allowed the Hebrew people to return to their land where they eventually rebuilt the city and the temple.

Though the everlasting fire prophesied by Isaiah destroyed many of the people and the works of their hands, this was not the end of the Hebrew people themselves, or their influence upon this world. They rebuilt and regained much of their former glory.

Furthermore, of the people who died in 586 BC, nothing is said by Isaiah or anyone else regarding their eternal state or destiny. It is only the work of their lives which was burned away into nothingness.

In fact, it is possible that many of them are already with God, and will spend eternity with Him.

hypocriteWe see evidence of this in the fact that Isaiah calls them “hypocrites.” A hypocrite is someone who acts in ways that are contrary to their stated identity. As such, anybody can be a hypocrite. Jesus often called some of His followers hypocrites (Matt 15:7; Luke 13:15), and Paul once referred to Peter and Barnabas as hypocrites (Gal 2:11-13).

Obviously, if someone is a hypocrite, this does not automatically mean they are truly part of the family of God, but it also does not necessarily mean that they will spend eternity in hell. It just means that they claim one thing about themselves but behave in ways that are opposite.

This was true of the people in Isaiah’s day, and many of these hypocrites will spend eternity with God.

3. The Fire is not from God, but from the People themselves

The third and final thing to note from Isaiah 33:10-16 is that the fire comes from the people themselves.

Isaiah writes, “Your breath, as fire, shall devour you” (Isaiah 33:11).

While numerous passages in Scripture indicate that the fires of judgment comes from God, a look behind the curtain reveals that the fires of judgment that come upon human beings for their sinful ways are always self-inflicted.

Sin bears its own punishment; rebellion carries within it the flames of ruin.

Actions have consequences, and when we live in ways that are contrary to the will of God, these actions lead to destruction and devastation.

This is why God warns us against sin in the first place. God warns us against sin, not because He is a killjoy and wants to ruin our fun with arbitrary laws, but because He knows how best to live this life and get the most out of it.

He also knows what happens when we do not live this life as He intends and seeks to warn us against such ways of living.

sin hurtsWhen we sin, we hurt others and we hurt ourselves. And since God loves all of us, He does not want to see us get hurt, which is why He warns us about sin. Yet we often sin anyway, and so destruction comes.

This is what Isaiah is teaching.

The people were warned by the prophets, including Isaiah himself, about their sinful and hypocritical ways. But they continued to sin, and so the fire of judgment that comes upon them is a fire they lit themselves.

And while it is not always words that spark the flame, words are often the culprit, as Isaiah indicates. He says it is their “breath” that is the fire, which is a way of referring to the words that they speak.

Indeed, near the end of Isaiah’s life, King Hezekiah said some foolish words to the ambassadors from Babylon. He boasted to them about the treasures of the temple and showed them the riches that were within it.

As a result, Isaiah told Hezekiah that because he had said and done these things, Babylon would come against the city and destroy it (2 Kings 20:12-19), which is exactly what happened (2 Kings 24:1-16).

Eventually, the entire city, with the temple, was burned with fire, and its inhabitants were carted off into captivity (2 Kings 25:1-21).

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Conclusion

So Isaiah 33:10-16 is a guiding paradigm for helping us understand all the passages in Scripture about fire.

As we will see, just like Isaiah 33:10-16, none of the passages which teach about the destruction of people in fire are referring to the everlasting torment of people in flames where they scream and burn for all eternity.

Instead, such texts refer to the worthless work of human hands that gets burned away by destructive forces in this world. All the work of their hands is turned to ash.

lime ashWhen lime is burned in a fire or thorns are put to flame, nothing is left but a fine, white powder which blows away with the first puff of wind.

So it will be for everything that some people have worked for in this life. As we keep this paradigm in mind, many of the New Testament passages which speak of fire make much more sense.

what is hellDo you have more questions about hell? Are you afraid of going to hell? Do want to know what the Bible teaches about hell? Take my course "What is Hell?" to learn the truth about hell and how to avoid hell. This course costs $297, but when you join the Discipleship group, you can to take the entire course for free.

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