I indicated in a previous comment that I would refrain from debating this gospel issue any more because none of us on either side are getting anywhere with the others, and I have better things to do. But in light of what I came across today, I am compelled to begin another post.
Besides, I guess public “debates” like this are not really for the debaters, but for those who are “on the fence” trying to understand and decide between the two positions. Even still, my follow-up comments to this post will be limited.
Following the attempts by some of the commenters (from both sides of the debate) to get simple “yes” and “no”ย answers from each other to theological questions,ย I have a REAL LIFE situation to pose to the readers of this blog, and I want you to state with a simple “Yes” or “No” whether you believe the followingย woman is saved or not.
Certainly, only God knows, but based on how you understand the Bible, the Gospel, how people are justified, and what she says, is the following woman justified,ย Yes or No?
And just so you know, I am not making this woman up. She is aย REAL woman I encountered today. So give her the benefit of the doubt. Ifย she says she really believes something, let’s assume she really does believe it.
She says she believes that:
- Jesus is God… i.e., He is fully divine.
- Jesus is fully human, yet without sin. Also, He was born of a virgin.
- Jesus died on the cross and rose again from the dead three days later.
- She is a sinner and needed Jesus to pay for her sin through His death on the cross so that she could gain His righteousness.
- Simply by faith in Jesus, she has everlasting life which can never be lost.So far, all of us would vote a hearty “YES.” I know I do. But here is where it gets interesting. She also believes that:
- Humans are “divine like Jesus, but to a lesser degree” becuase we sin.
- God is Allah, the same god the Muslims worship.
- The Trinity is fiction… there is only one God and He is not in three person.
- The Qu’ran is inspired by God and is on equal footing with the Bible. Since the two are in conflict on some teachings, neither can be taken literally.
So, what is the verdict?
And here are the RULES for the comments on this post. YOU MUST, IN YOUR FIRST COMMENT, BEGIN WITH EITHER A “YES” OR A “NO.” Following your one-word answer, you may then explain your answer. Also, in subsequent comments, you do not need to begin those posts with your answer, unless you change you answer.
Obviously, none of us are the true judges of a person’s eternal destiny (Isn’t that a relief?), and the Gospel is not even primarily about where one will spend eternity, but this exercise is for the purpose of helping us think through what the Bible says about how to receive eternal life. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don’t go around judging people the way we are doing here on this post.




The beginning of the service was announced by a funny little video which I won’t try to explain. The welcome was given by a young guy who explained that he was now happy in life again because he got a new iPhone. He was one of the first people in the country to get the iPhone on opening weekend, but the first day he had it, he went swimming with it for 20 minutes, and found out it wasn’t waterproof. So apparently, a week earlier in church he was pretty depressed because he had plunked down $600 for an iPhone and barely even got to show it off. Anyway, he took the phone into an Apple store and told them it was “broken” and they gave him a brand new one, no questions asked. So now life was good again.


OK, the cat is out of the bag (I guess it was never in the bag)…The article I referred to in the
But before I get to my practice,ย it is probably best to begin with what Stegall says a person must believe to receive eternal life. If I remember correctly, Stegall has five things he says must be believed if a person is to be born again. These five things were not listed in his article, but I think I heard him list them in a talk he gave at the Annual Fall Conference at Duluth Bible Church. (So my memory may be wrong on these five…).

In light of my
And so now, sadly, the unnamed authors of the accusatory books and articles make themselves look foolish because, for everybody who knows better, theย view they are trying to refute doesn’t exist!
I came across this today, and thought it was a good reminder for all of us who devote our lives to studying and teaching the Word of God.
I went to a church planting event today [2015 note: This was written on June 26, 2007] sponsored by the Acts 29 Network. It was attended by 200 or so young men who want to plant churches around the county. 

