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Free Grace Alliance Conference Panel Discussions

By Jeremy Myers
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Free Grace Alliance Conference Panel Discussions

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I was a panel member atย the Free Grace Alliance National Conference todayย on the subject of the death and resurrection of Jesus in relation to the gospel.

But before I write about that, let me write about a different panel which I attended. This other panel was on the issues of assurance, eternal security, andย justification.

Assurance, Eternal Security, and Justification

The panel which I only attended was related to the issues of assurance, eternal security, and justification. The basic question was “Does a person have to know that what they get from Jesus can never be lost in order to receive it?”

Of the three panelists, I heard one, Tim Nichols, give a clear answer “Yes” and the other two were a little more evasive. This was not really their fault since many of the questions from the audience were not really on topic. Some questions were related to the death and resurrection of Jesus, or the deity of Jesus, and other things.

The last question, however, was very revealing. It was “If you are witnessing to an unsaved person, and you want to tell them how to be saved, what would you say?”

1. Dave Anderson answered first with two words: “Free Grace.” I’m not sure what he meant by that. I doubt the person he was evangelizing would understand it either.

2. George Meisinger said that he tells as much of the gospel as he can to the person in the time he has. If it’s on an airplane, he is able to tell them lots more than if he is sharing with someone on their deathbed.

3. Tim Nichols answered similarly to George Meisinger, but emphasized that the message we share with unbelievers must come from the Gospel of John.

All in all, it was a great conference session.

Death and Resurrection of Jesus and the Gospel

The second panel discussion I attended was the one in which I was a participant. It concerned whether a person had to believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus in order to be born again. The following are terribly poor summaries of the views presented:

(Note that due to comments for clarification, edits have been made to what was originally written. These are the crossed out sections below.)

What is the Gospel

1. Ken Wilson said, “Yes. We don’t believe in Jesus for everlasting life, but we have to believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God who takes away our sins.” I’m not sure who in Christendom (including Catholics) doesn’t believe this, but maybe I misunderstood him.

2. Tim Nichols argued that since nobody would ever dream of not presenting the death and resurrection, the question doesn’t really matter. This is true. Sometimes, Satan’s greatest ploy is to get us talking about theology rather than living out the theology we do know.

3. Larry Moyer said, “Yes, because the death and resurrection is central to the Gospel, and we must always share the Gospel when telling people about Jesus.”

4. Tom Stegall argued similarly to Larry Moyer, but more emphatically.

5. I certainly do believe that the death and resurrection of Jesus are central to the Gospel, and that without the death and resurrection of Jesus, there is no Gospel. All the truths of the Gospel (of which there are dozens-if not hundreds) are for the purpose of getting a person to believe in Jesus and so receive everlasting life. So I always present the death and resurrection of Jesus when I witness to people. So I argued similarly to Tim Nichols–that it’s a moot point.

What is the Gospel

Some did Believe in Jesus, but not in His Death and Resurrection

However, I did point out that we do have examples of people in Scripture who believed in Jesus and received everlasting life, but did not know about the death and resurrection of Jesus, and even when presented with these truths, did not believe them (cf. Matt 16:31-32; Mark 9:31-32; Luke 9:44-45; 18:31-34; 24:19-26; John 20:9, 24-30). There may be some examples from Acts and the Epistles as well, but it’s almost 2 am, and I’m tired. But just one example: One reason Paul wrote 1 Corinthians 15 is to persuade and convince the Corinthian believers about the resurrection of Jesus. It sounds like some of them had believed in the resurrection, but had turned away from it, but there apparently were others who had heard about the resurrection, but denied it as fiction. Paul is correcting these believers in Corinth about this.

So apparently, there are people who believe in Jesus, and lots of correct things about Him, but don’t have all their theological ducks in a row, but who are still considered by Biblical authors to be regenerate. It is possible to believe many wrong things about Jesus, but still receiver eternal life by believing in Him for it.ย I think it is possible there are people in the same category today. I may have talked with one a few weeks ago, which I mentioned in a previous post.

Due to the number of panelists, and the limited time, only one question from the audience was asked, and that one had nothing to do with the questions that I had come up with which I hoped to receive answers to. So I still don’t know how Tom Stegall would answer those questions. I refuse to speculate how he might answer them, because if there is anything more dangerous that theological speculation, it is theological speculation about someone else’s theology.

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: assurance, crossless gospel, eternal security, evangelism, everlasting life, free grace, gospel, justification, resurrection, Theology of Jesus, Theology of Salvation

Free Grace Alliance Conference Panel Discussion

By Jeremy Myers
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Free Grace Alliance Conference Panel Discussion

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I am on a panel discussion tomorrow night at the National Conference of the Free Grace Alliance. The panel discussion is related to the death and resurrection of Jesus, and whether a person needs to know and believe these historical facts in order to be born again. My invitation to this discussion is due to the so-called Crossless Gospel controversy. People accuse me of teaching a Crossless Gospel, which is exceedingly strange, since I believe the cross is at the very center of the gospel. Without the cross, there is no Gospel.

Anyway, here are some of the issues to be addressed in this Free Grace Alliance panel discussion.

Is Belief in the Death and Resurrection Necessary?

I am presenting the view that while the death and resurrection of Jesus was necessary for justification to be possible, belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus is not what grants a person eternal life. A person simply needs to believe in Jesus for eternal life to be given it by God. I have written on this in the past. Certainly, the death and resurrection of Jesus are central to the Gospel, but since there is so much Biblical information that is part of the Gospel, one does not have to believe the entire Gospel to be justified.

There is a difference between the mechanism of justification (the death and resurrection of Jesus, along with a myriad of other things) and the message of eternal life (believe in Jesus for it). In other words,ย there is a difference between the Gospel information, and the Gospel invitation.

I agreed to be on this panel for three reasons.

Clarity in Evangelism

First, I want people to be clear in evangelism. If we have a muddled evangelistic message, all we do is erect barriers which keep people from believing in Jesus for eternal life.ย The death and resurrection of Jesus are definitely part of what we share in evangelism, but we tell them these things to convince and persuade them to believe in Jesus for eternal life, not because they get eternal life by believing in the death and resurrection of Jesus. It’s a nuance, but a very important one. After all, there are many who believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus, but don’t believe in Him for eternal life.

Hear from the Horse’s Mouth

Second, I know there are a lot of people who are trying to understand the various positions on the Gospel, and there are many people accusing me of believing things I don’t believe.

So I hope to let them hear my position from me rather than from those out there who don’t understand my position but continue to write pejorative and negative things about me. It’s always best when researching a matter to go to the source.

To Understand the Other Views

Third, I see no logical or Biblical consistency in the view of those who are taking the opposing view. Clearly, they think their view is logical and Biblical or they wouldn’t hold it. I am not exactly trying to persuade them to my view, but I do want to try to understand their view. Toward that end, here are the questions I hope to have answered:

  • If a person must believe in the death of resurrection of Jesus, is it sufficient to believe in the historical facts of these events, or does a person also have to believe in substitutionary atonement?
  • If a person does have to believe in substitutionary atonement, what if that person holds the ransom to Satan view?
  • If a person must believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus, do they have to believe that it was by the shedding of blood of Jesus on the cross that sins are forgiven, or can they just believe that it was simply His death that was sufficient? In other words, does a person have to understand that their sins are forgiven โ€œby His bloodโ€ and not just by His death?
  • If a person must believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus, must they believe that Jesus rose in a glorified, eternal, incorruptible body, and that He went on to ascend into heaven, or can they believe that He went on to live, grow old, and die again of old age like the others who were resurrected in Scripture?
  • If a person must believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus, must they believe that the resurrection is a past, historical event, or can they believe that Jesus will rise from the dead in the future?
  • If a person must believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus, what was the object of faith for OT people and the apostles who did not (as far as we can tell) believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus? Did the object and content of faith change after the death and resurrection of Jesus?
  • What passages are there in Scripture which teach that a person must believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus in order to receive everlasting life?
  • If a person believes that Jesus died on the cross for their sins, and rose again from the dead, but donโ€™t believe that by faith in Jesus they have life that can never be lost, are they justified? (E.g., They say things like โ€œJesus did his 99%, but I must do my 1%โ€ or โ€œIโ€™m saved now, but if I sin later, I wonโ€™t be saved any moreโ€ or โ€œI accepted the gift of eternal life, but I can give it back if I donโ€™t abide.โ€)

Some other Free Grace Alliance Leaders

In all of my study of the other view, I have yet to read an attempt to answer these questions. Others have noticed this same thing, and we receive daily e-mails and phone calls from people saying they are prayerfully supporting Bob Wilkin, myself, and the ministry of Grace Evangelical Society as we continue to present the offer of eternal life to all who believe in Jesus for it.

Email Questions

Here is one such e-mail:

Jeremy,

By way of introduction, we have been with GES almost since its beginning and had been proclaiming the free grace gospel message for 25 years before that. We were instrumental in formatting the first several years of GES Journal articles for the website and have printed and distributed several thousand pages of GES articles to many pastors and Christian leaders in our area. In other words, we support what you are doing.

We have been keeping up with the ongoing issue of what constitutes the gospel message and are grieved about the possible damage to the cause of Christ that might ensue. We also have supported the ministry at Duluth for quite some time and distributed much of their literature.

I believe that your article, โ€œThe Gospel Is More Than ‘Faith Alone In Christ Alone,'” was excellent and it even helped me to โ€œconnect the dotsโ€ in some of my study on the subject. The open letter on the Duluth website refers to, among other things, this article and mentions two points of disagreement. These comments appeared to me to be a bit pejorative as there was no attempt at biblical refutation or even explanation of the context of your statements.

In addition to the significant biblical evidence that you gave for your position (a position which should be either accepted or proved wrong biblically), is one point that has come up in my study and that I have not seen mentioned anywhere.

It is as follows: In 1st Corinthians 15, we find the classic definition of the gospel which includes the death, burial, resurrection of Christ, and probably the contents of the next few verses. Per verse 15 we see that the resurrection is necessary for our justification, but does not say that belief in it is necessary. Verse 12 and following shows that some of the Corinthian believers did not believe in the resurrection and reiterates the deleterious ramifications of this error. This epistle is written to the Church at Corinth (1:2; 1:7 et al).

Did these believers who already have eternal life then lose their salvation? Did the awareness of their lack then show that they were not true believers in the first place? Or were they eternally saved, carnal believers, who needed to know and apply these resurrection facts so that they may be saved in the sanctification sense and enjoy the resurrection life during their earthly pilgrimage? The first two options are not implied in the context and are disqualified by other scripture. Something similar to the last seems to be more on target.

Unless you are already way ahead of me on this it might be beneficial to also develop this point. No reply to this note is expected as I realize that you have a heavy schedule.

We continue to pray. Keep up the good work (1 Cor. 15:58)

This is an excellent observation and should be developed further. I also want to point out that Peter and the apostles did not believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus until after He died and rose again (cf. Matt 16:20-23; Mark 9:31-32; Luke 9:44-45; 18:31-34; 24:19-26; John 20:9, 24-30). Does this then mean that they were not justified until they believed in the death and resurrection?

I’ll give an update on how things went after the conference.


God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: crossless gospel, evangelism, free grace, gospel, Theology of Jesus, Theology of Salvation

How Church can Solve the World Water Crisis

By Jeremy Myers
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How Church can Solve the World Water Crisis

world water crisisIn a previous post, I presented a theoretical plan for solving the world’s water crisis. I proposed a way for churches to come up with that money by “taxing” themselves 1/3 of what their property taxes would be if they were paying property taxes. We could get the needed $10 Billion in one year to fully fund the work that needs to be done to solve the world water crisis.

Now, Todd Rhoades, over at Monday Morning Insight has got me thinking about another way churches can do this. He writes that according to a recent study, churches in America spent $8.1 Billion on sound and video equipment last year.

So we can either give a cup of cold water in Jesus’ name to every thirsty person on planet earth, thus solving the world’s water crisis, OR we can have state-of-the-art sound and video projection equipment in our churches.

Hmmm. World water crisis…. state of the art sound systems. Which to choose?

It seems like an easy choice, right? I mean, after all, to really be in touch with Jesus, we’ve got to feel the music and have our eyes massaged by the swirling lights on the screen.

If we don’t get those music-induced goosebumps on Sunday morning, how will we ever make it through the week? And besides, most people will stop coming to church if we cannot compete with the high-def surround-sound movie screens down at the Omniplex theater.

So I guess all those people around the world who just want a cup of clean water will just have to go thirsty a little bit longer.

Here’s the honest truth: When we sing worship songs on Sunday morning, we are listening to the sound of water being poured onto the idolatrous altar of music.

Of course, I’m in the same sinking ship, but on a smaller scale. I bought an MP3 player (a cheapo $30 job) last month, and purchased a few songs off iTunes. Jesus might be asking what I did with the $40 He gave me, but if He is, I can’t hear Him, because somehow, I got water in my ears.

Update: And there are so many innovative ways of helping these areas get water. Check out these:

  • Drought Masters pulls water from the air.
  • Giant Basket Pulls water from the air.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: church, church buildings, Discipleship, ministry, mission, missional, money, service, the poor, the thirsty, Theology of the Church, water

It’s tough being a girl

By Jeremy Myers
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It’s tough being a girl

Pretty girlsJohn Eldredge and his wife have recently written some books which state that while men want to be warriors and need to know they are strong and wild, women need to know that they are beautiful: Wild at Heart: Discovering the Secret of a Man’s Soulย and Captivating: Unveiling the Mystery of a Woman’s Soul.

I think this is true, but sometimes, especially in our culture, we have problems defining “strength” for boysย and “beauty” forย girls.

Which is partly why I was excited to learn about a campaign byย Dove to help girls in our culture understand true beauty.

These following videos should be watched by every man, brother, husband, and father.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hibyAJOSW8U

Those women on the billboards? Not real. The women in the magazines? Fake and photoshopped. Your wife, your daughter, and your sister? The most genuinely beautiful women in the world. Have you told her?

This following video shows us what the females in our life are up against.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epOg1nWJ4T8

And one more…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bVAl73JvLM

So here is the question: How can we tell our wives and daughters they are “pretty” without encouraging them to follow the worldly definition of beauty?

In discussing this with my wife, here are some of her suggestions:

1. Love is more than words. It’s a cliche because it’s true.ย Don’t just tell your wife and daughters they are beautiful. Show them with hugs, kisses, holding hands, taking them on dates. If all you do is tell the women in your life they are beautiful, but never show them, they won’t believe you.

2. Affirm them in ways not related to beauty. Women, even though they strive to be beautiful, want to be more than just pretty. They want to be valued and know that they are contributing. Being pretty helps them feel valued. This seems to work in reverse. Since they feel valued when they know they are pretty, if you help them to feel valued, they will also feel pretty. So find what your wife and daughters like to do, and constantly affirm them in it.

3. Sometimes, a hobby or interest outside of self-beatification can help. Girls who love horses rarely spend lots of time brushing their own hair, but with brushing their horse. Girls who love art spend less time painting themselves than their canvas. Mothers are the prime examples. Good mothers are consumed with caring for their children and rarely have much time to spend on themselves. This is not to say that horse lovers, artists, and mothers are not beautiful! To the contrary, they are often the most beautiful. Why? Becauseย self-focused attention creates fake beauty, while an outward focus allows true inner beauty to blossom and flourish.

If you have other suggestions on what true beauty is and how to help the women in our lives feel lovely, please post them in the comments section for others to read.

God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: beauty, daughters, Discipleship, girls, pretty, wife, women

Help Keep Guatemalan Adoptions Open

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Help Keep Guatemalan Adoptions Open

Note:ย this post is from October 2007 when my wife and I were trying to adopt a girl from Guatemala. The bill mentioned below did not pass, and all adoptions out of Guatemala ceased.

We were not able to complete our adoption process. As of this month, January 2012, adoptions have not reopened.


Guatemala AdoptionThis is the week for taking action on allowing Guatemala adoptions to continue.
Please read the previous post for more information, but you can start by signing the online petition.

Keep updated on this through AdoptionBlogs. Also, here are two people who have blogs about their Guatemala Adoption process. Bringing Gabriel Home and Our Little Pea.

CNN has also published an online article about the disaster waiting to happen in Guatemala if these current laws are passed. The article is here for you to read online, but I have posted it below for you to read here as well.

ANTIGUA, Guatemala (CNN) –For many years, Guatemala has been a place of relatively uncomplicated adoptions for American parents. The small country’s government estimates as many as 17 babies leave each day for adoptive parents in the United States.

Carolina, a 3-month-old Guatemalan girl, was bound for the U.S. until Guatemalan authorities intervened.

But that number could soon drop to zero because of concerns over alleged improprieties in the Guatemalan adoption process. Guatemalan President Oscar Berger announced recently that adoptions to the United States will be suspended on January 1, 2008, a decision that could leave nearly 3,000 babies currently in the adoption pipeline in legal limbo.

“This is our heritage, our future,” said Carmen Wennier, head of Guatemala’s Social Welfare bureau, who has criticized the adoption system.

Guatemala has the highest per capita rate of adoption in the world and the United States represents the largest number of adoptions, with an estimated one of every 100 Guatemalan babies sent to the United States, according to the U.S. consulate in Guatemala. U.S. officials estimate more than 5,000 adoptions from Guatemala will be processed this year, an annual high which would make Guatemala the second biggest origin of adoptive babies to the United States, behind China.

Adoption has been a hotly contested issue in Guatemala for years. While adoptive parents in the United States undergo rigorous screening, adoptions in Guatemala are processed under a notary system that allows lawyers and judges to place children for adoption. Both Guatemalan and U.S. officials fear the system leads to practices such as paying birth mothers for children, or, some instances, using coercion.

“We have thousands of cases of Guatemalan children who have been adopted to the United States and have had terrific experiences as adoptive children there, and frankly, have probably experienced a life more full of opportunity and support than they would have if they had been abandoned in Guatemala,” U.S. Ambassador to Guatemala James Derham said. “What we want to do is make sure that all adoptions are consistent with these kinds of ideas.”

Both U.S. and Guatemalan officials say gaps in the regulation and the high sums of money at play – adoptions can cost up to $30,000 to complete — may have created unintended incentives in a country where the U.S. State Department estimates 80 percent of the population lives in poverty.

For prospective adoptive parents awaiting children in the United States, the recent developments are wrenching. But despite the State Department warnings, dozens of Americans still fill major hotels in Guatemala City meeting babies they expect will soon be theirs.

Several hotels in the city offer adoption packages and baby-friendly amenities to prospective adoptive parents. The couples stay there when they come to first see the babies while waiting for paperwork to be processed or to pick them up at the end of the adoption process.

Many of those couples say the charges of coercion of birth mothers are overblown and that thousands of abandoned children will be condemned to a life of poverty if greater restrictions on adoptions are imposed.

“Nobody reports on what will happen to these children if the adoptions are stopped,” said one American parent who asked not to be identified. “The city will be filled with street kids.”

The increasing scrutiny of adoptions from Guatemala already has thrown some adoptions into flux. Carolina, a 3-month-old Guatemalan girl, was just months away from joining her adoptive parents, Ellen and Sean Darcy, in their Boston, Massachusetts, home, when she and 45 other babies were seized from Casa Quivira, an adoption agency, by the Guatemalan government.

“Casa Quivira was the last stop on an assembly line,” Wennier told CNN. “They had the final product and they had to sell it at the best price.”

Guatemala police arrested Casa Quivira’s lawyers and charged them with child abduction. No plea has yet been entered, but the agency’s owners, American Cliff Phillips and his Guatemalan wife, Sandra Gonzalez, deny doing anything illegal.

“We can respond for the work of Casa Quivira and we will make all the efforts to clear our name, to get these kids home,” Gonzalez said through tears. She adamantly denies Casa Quivira wanted to do anything more than help save children from poverty and make American families whole.

Carolina’s adoptive mom in the United States, Ellen Darcy, is worried about Carolina’s future, but she wants the investigation to go forward so she’ll know if the adoption was legitimate.

“We want to know. We don’t want to complete an adoption that is anything but completely legal and where this little girl has been relinquished willingly,” she said. The Darcy’s already have one child they adopted from Guatemala, a boy named Dylan, and they were excited for Carolina’s arrival.

In Guatemala, birth mothers are required to sign a document in court in which they state they are relinquishing their child, but they are not interviewed by a judge as to their reasons. To stem corruption, the U.S. Embassy has added its own requirement that birth mothers appear with the baby when proceedings to request a Visa for the baby begin. In August, they also began requiring two DNA tests to confirm the identities of mother and child.

But proponents of stricter adoption guidelines in Guatemala said that even those tests are not sufficient. The Guatemalan Office of the Attorney General said it has 80 confirmed cases so far this year of adoption irregularities, including baby stealing and false DNA tests.

The Guatemalan Chief Prosecutor’s Office recently launched a criminal investigation into the two laboratories contracted to take DNA samples from birth mothers and the children.

The U.S. Consulate and adoptive parents said those allegations do not taint the more than 4,000 adoptions that were processed legitimately last year. But due to the uncertainty expected from then anticipated changes in process, the State Department has recently issued a warning advising American citizens not to initiate any new adoptions from Guatemala.

Like other parents and prospective parents, Ellen Darcy, as she waits in her Boston home for baby Carolina, is concerned about the children.

“I’m not worried about the American couples. That’s a non-issue. I’m worried about the kids,” she said. “If they aren’t given an option to be raised abroad, that they will perish and spend their entire childhood in an orphanage in state custody with nobody to encourage them or be a parent or take a vested interest in them. The American parents will be fine. It’s the kids.”


God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: adoption, Discipleship

The Lives of 1000’s are in your Fingertips

By Jeremy Myers
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The Lives of 1000’s are in your Fingertips

The children of Guatemala get food from the city dumpsNote: this post is from October 2007 when my wife and I were trying to adopt a girl from Guatemala. The bill mentioned below did not pass, and all adoptions out of Guatemala ceased.

We were not able to complete our adoption process. As of this month, January 2012, adoptions have not reopened.

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My wife and I have been in the process of adopting a little girl from Guatemala. Most of the orphans in Guatemala live in the streets, and get their food and clothing from city dumps. There are currently about 5000 such children who were slated to be adopted between now and December 31, 2007.

But this week, the US Department of State has encouraged the Guatemalan congress to pass the Ortega Law which would effectively put an end to all adoptions from Guatemala. This bill, as it now stands, has no funding plan, no child care plan for the children currently in the process of getting adopted, and no plan for future children to even enter the process. Private orphanages will no longer be allowed to accept donations for taking care of children, and so many of them will have to shut their doors. This means that within six months, thousands of children waiting to be adopted could instead be turned out onto the streets. This is truly a human rights and child welfare nightmare waiting to happen.

Why is the US and Guatemala doing this? Guatemala seeks to become โ€œHague Compliantโ€ which is well intended inter-country treaty to stop illegal adoptions. Babies were getting stolen and then put up for adoption. The kidnappers received money from the many adoption fees charged to adoptive parents. So the Hague Treaty is intended to stop this, which is good. But what has happened in Hague Compliant countries is that adoptions have ceased almost completely.

Countries like Honduras, El Salvador, Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, and Bolivia have become Hague compliant. These countries used to allow inter-country adoptions just as much as Guatemala. But in the past decade, all these countries enacted similar laws as the one we now see Guatemala taking steps to pass. The result in Guatemala will be similar to what we now have in these other countries: the streets are overflowing with orphans, the orphanages are underfunded and overcrowded. Over the last 14 years, hundreds of thousands of children who might have benefited from the opportunity of adoption have instead become statistics, adding to the numbers of children who die on the streets, or are forced into slavery or prostitution.

You can readย about all of this at the following links:

The Ortega Law

Congress Bio Letter

Please don’t let this happen! Use your finger tips to make a few calls and send a few e-mails. Below is what our adoption agency, All Godโ€™s Children International, is asking people to do.

Dear Friends,

Guatemalan President Oscar Berger has announced plans to suspend all intercountry adoption with American families on January 1 2008.ย  The Joint Council on International Childrenโ€™s Services strongly opposes such a suspension and asks for your support in their efforts to ensure that all children retain the right to permanency through Intercountry Adoption.

President Bergerโ€™s plans also call for the suspension of adoptions currently in-process.ย  Such a suspension would be extremely detrimental to the children referred to adoptive parents.ย  If President Bergerโ€™s plan is actually implemented, up to 5,000 will unnecessarily remain in foster care or orphanages indefinitely.

This situation represents a pending crisis for the adoptive families who have lovingly chosen to provide permanency, safety and love to a child in need and most importantly a crisis for 5,000 children of Guatemala.

What can you do?ย  Make six simple phone calls and one email.

1.ย ย ย ย ย ย  Call your U.S. Senator.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  You can find your Senatorsโ€™ phone numbers at www.senate.gov

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask to speak with the Legislative Director or Chief of Staff

2.ย ย  Call your second U.S. Senator.

3.ย ย  Call your representative to the U.S. House of Representative.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  You can find your representative at www.house.gov

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask to speak with the Legislative Director or Chief of Staff

4.ย ย ย ย ย ย  Call or fax UNICEF Headquarter

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask to speak with Ann Veneman, Executive Director

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Their number is 212-326-7000

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Their fax number is 212-326-7758

5.ย ย ย ย ย ย  Call or fax UNICEF Guatemala

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask to speak with Manuel Manrique

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Their number is 011-502-2327-6373

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Their fax number is 011-502-2327.6366

Please note that calls and faxes to Guatemala are international calls

6.ย ย ย ย ย ย  Send and email supporting Intercountry Adoption to gu***********@***cs.org

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Write briefly or at length

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Joint Council will use the cumulative email petition in our advocacy for Intercountry Adoption

When should you call?ย  Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday (October 9th, 10th 11th)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  For maximum affect, we are asking you to make these calls within a 72 hour window!

What should you say or write to member of the U.S. Congress? Speak from your heart and give them the following information.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that you are calling regarding Guatemala 5000

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask them to sign the Congressional Coalition on Adoption Institute (CCAI) sponsored letter to President Oscar Berger

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask them to sign the Joint Council on International Childrenโ€™s Services sponsored letter to UNICEF

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that the Guatemalan government has announced that all intercountry adoptions with the U.S. will be suspended on January 1 2008.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that President Bergerโ€™s announcement also indicated that there will be no โ€˜grandfatheringโ€™ of adoptions already in process.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that if children referred to families are not allowed to be adopted, they will languish in institutions or foster care.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask that their office get involved and sign the sponsored letters to the President of Guatemala and UNICEF.ย  These letters ask that all adoptions in-process as of January 1 2008 be allowed to process to completion under the existing notorial laws.

Sample Statement:

Hello,

We are calling/writing on behalf of the Guatemala 5000 Initiative.ย  We, as your constituents, are asking that the Senator/Congressperson add their signature to two letters.ย  First, the Congressional Coalition on Adoption Institute sponsored letter to Guatemalan President Oscar Berger.ย  Second, the Joint Council on International Childrenโ€™s Services sponsored letter to UNICEF.

As you may be aware, the Guatemalan government has announced that all intercountry adoptions with the U.S. will be suspended on January 1 2008. Their announcement also indicated that there will be no โ€˜grandfatheringโ€™ of adoptions already in process. If children referred to families are not allowed to be adopted, they will languish in institutions or foster care. Your office must get involved and sign the sponsored letters to the President of Guatemala and UNICEF.ย  These letters ask that all adoptions in-process as of January 1 2008 be allowed to process to completion under the existing notorial laws.

Sincerely,

<your name and contact information>

What should you say or write to UNICEF? Speak from your heart and give them the following information.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that you are calling regarding the Guatemala 5000

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask them to support the rightโ€™s of children and lend their considerable influence to ensuring that intercountry adoptions currently in-process be allowed to process to completion under the existing notorial laws.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that the Guatemalan government has announced that all adoptions with the U.S. will be suspended on January 1 2008.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that President Bergerโ€™s announcement also indicated that there will be no โ€˜grandfatheringโ€™ of adoptions already in process.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Inform them that if children referred to families are not allowed to be adopted, they will languish in institutions or foster care.

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Ask them again for their support of the Guatemala 5000 Initiative.

Sample Statement

Hello,

We are calling/writing on behalf of the Guatemala 5000 Initiative.ย  As financial supporters of UNICEF (through our tax dollars), we are asking that UNICEF lends its support and considerable influence to the Guatemala 5000 initiative.

As you may be know, the Guatemalan government has announced that all intercountry adoptions with the U.S. will be suspended on January 1 2008. Their announcement also indicated that there will be no โ€˜grandfatheringโ€™ of adoptions already in process. If children referred to families are not allowed to be adopted, they will languish in institutions or foster care. UNICEF must get involved and help ensure that all intercountry adoptions in-process as of January 1 2008 be allowed to process to completion under the existing notorial laws.

Sincerely,

<your name and contact information>

Can you explain the problem behind the pending crisis?ย  Here is some additional informationโ€ฆ

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Guatemalan President Oscar Berger has announced plans to effectively stop all adoptions into the United States including those children who have already been referred to adoptive parents

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Over 5,000 children have been referred

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  The birthparents for these children have already relinquished their parental rights.ย  As a result, they currently have no family and the Berger suspension will result in these children having no prospect for a permanent, safe and loving family

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  The government of Guatemala currently does not have the finances or facilities to even provide housing for these 5,000 children

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  The Berger plan is a crisis waiting to happen

What else can you do?ย  In addition to your primary calls to U.S. Congress and UNICEF, you can call the following.

SOSEP (Guatemala)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Director Teresa Echeverrรญa de Bastarrechea

Office Phone- 011-502-2383-8400

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Assistant Director- Edin Palma- Same office phone

Office Phone- 011-502-2383-8400

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Jaime Tecu

Office Phone – 011-502-2239-0000 ext 2766

Please note that calls and faxes to Guatemala are international calls

Guatemala Ministry of Foreign Affairs

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Minister Gerth Rosenthal

Office Phone 011-502-2410-0000, 2410-0010

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Vice Minister- Marta Altoaguirre

Office Phoneย  011-502-2410-0020

Please note that calls and faxes to Guatemala are international calls

PGN (Guatemala)

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Carlos Victor Hugo Barrios Barahona

Office Phone 011-502-2248-3200 Ext. 207/208

Please note that calls and faxes to Guatemala are international calls

Procuraduria of Human Rights

ยทย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย  Dr. Sergio Morales

Office Phone 011-502-2424-1717

Please note that calls and faxes to Guatemala are international calls

Embassy of Guatemala in the U.S.
2220 R Street N.W.
Washington, DC 20008
Office Phoneย  1-202-745-4952
Office Fax 1-202-745-1908
Website: www.guatemala-embassy.org/


God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: adoption, Discipleship, sex trafficking

Is it okay for a church to meet in Bar?

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Is it okay for a church to meet in Bar?

Church in a BarI’ve been mulling this idea around in my head for a long time (six years or so), and finally found someone who is doing it!

Check out the video at this link:

Forefront Church in Virginia Beach Meets in a Bar

The video is no longer online… Sorry! If anyone knows where this video can be found, can you let me know in the comments section below? It was back when Vince Antonucci was the lead pastor. Thanks.

Until then, see my previous posts about this idea:

Dirtbags in Montana

St. Pete’s Church, Bar and Grill

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: being the church, Discipleship

The Mom Song

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The Mom Song

The Mom SongMy wife Wendyย has decided to play this song for our three girls every morning, just so she gets it all out of the way in 2 minutes and 55 seconds.

If you are a mother, have a mother, or know a mother, you will laugh!

The lyrics are included below the video.

Lyrics:

Get up now
Get up now
Get up out of bed
Wash your face
Brush your teeth
Comb your sleepyhead
Here’s your clothes and your shoes
Hear the words I said
Get up now! Get up and make your bed
Are you hot? Are you cold?
Are you wearing that?
Where’s your books and your lunch and your homework at?
Grab your coat and gloves and your scarf and hat
Don’t forget! You gotta feed the cat
Eat your breakfast, the experts tell us it’s the most important meal of all
Take your vitamins so you will grow up one day to be big and tall
Please remember the orthodontist will be seeing you at 3 today
Don’t forget your piano lesson is this afternoon so you must play
Don’t shovel
Chew slowly
But hurry
The bus is here
Be careful
Come back here
Did you wash behind your ears?
Play outside, don’t play rough, will you just play fair?
Be polite, make a friend, don’t forget to share
Work it out, wait your turn, never take a dare
Get along! Don’t make me come down there
Clean your room, fold your clothes, put your stuff away
Make your bed, do it now, do we have all day?
Were you born in a barn? Would you like some hay?
Can you even hear a word I say?
Answer the phone! Get off the phone!
Don’t sit so close, turn it down, no texting at the table
No more computer time tonight!
Your iPod’s my iPod if you don’t listen up
Where are you going and with whom and what time do you think you’re coming home?
Saying thank you, please, excuse me makes you welcome everywhere you roam
You’ll appreciate my wisdom someday when you’re older and you’re grown
Can’t wait till you have a couple little children of your own
You’ll thank me for the counsel I gave you so willingly
But right now I thank you not to roll your eyes at me
Close your mouth when you chew, would appreciate
Take a bite maybe two of the stuff you hate
Use your fork, do not burp or I’ll set you straight
Eat the food I put upon your plate
Get an A, get the door, don’t get smart with me
Get a grip, get in here, I’ll count to three
Get a job, get a life, get a PHD
Get a dose of,
“I don’t care who started it!
You’re grounded until you’re 36”
Get your story straight and tell the truth for once, for heaven’s sake
And if all your friends jumped off a cliff would you jump, too?
If I’ve said it once, I’ve said at least a thousand times before
That you’re too old to act this way
It must be your father’s DNA
Look at me when I am talking
Stand up straighter when you walk
A place for everything and everything must be in place
Stop crying or I’ll give you something real to cry about
Oh!
Brush your teeth, wash your face, put your PJs on
Get in bed, get a help, say a prayer with mom
Don’t forget, I love you
And tomorrow we will do this all again because a mom’s work never ends
You don’t need the reason why
Because, because, because, because
I said so, I said so, I said so, I said so
I’m the mom, the mom, the mom, the mom, the mom!!
Ta da!!!


God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, mothers, mothers day

Church Additions

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Church Additions

One of the blogs I read daily is The Ongoing Adventures of the ASBO Jesus. The author is a pastor in the UK who writes a comic strip about Jesus, Christianity, and the church.ย Most often, I findย his comic stripsย spot on.

The one below is true on multiple levels.

Additions

This is true first of all as he has shown it. The church has made so many additions to what the church is supposed to be and do, that we barely represent the church any more.ย We need to strip all this away, and get back to being and doing what Jesus intended.

But also, this comic strip could be true of the offer of eternal life, how to be a follower of Jesus, and just life in general.ย Simple is always best.

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: church, church buildings, Discipleship, gospel, Theology of the Church

The Missional Imago Dei of Reformissional Glocal Cruciform Cohorts (WHAT??!!)

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The Missional Imago Dei of Reformissional Glocal Cruciform Cohorts (WHAT??!!)

Thinking MissionalLark News, the Christian satire website, posted this humorous article about Missional churches:

Emergent leaders call for โ€˜missional re-understanding of Jesus-followership and Christ-focus imbued with passionate creativity and emotional authenticity,โ€™ whatever that means:

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa โ€” At a recent conference-like “gathering” of emergent church leaders, various factions sparred over competing visions for the future of the movement.

Leaders on one side called for “deepening and continuously beautiful efforts toward emotionally true self-divulgence and confession.” Other leaders countered with a call for “a theological re-purposing of our objective and subjective missionality within a framework of God-love.” Because few in attendance actually understood what either side meant, both ideas were tabled.

The sides did agree that emergent leaders should continue to take every opportunity to make casual, cool cultural references to popular television shows, movies and Internet phenomena to introduce quasi-intellectual spiritual points about the state of the American church.

They also pledged to maintain their reputation for being “more spiritually honest than the millions of people who attend institutionalized churches every week and blindly go along with the programs, sermons and mindset that make American Christianity the colossal failure it is today.”

After toasting themselves with various hyper-cool micro-brews, the audience adjourned to begin 7 and 8-hour theological bull sessions in their hotel rooms and local bars.

Conference organizers say they will meet again to do the same thing next year.

Emerging Missional Church

I laughed at this for several reasons.

The Mission of Emerging Leaders is Coining New Terms

I have read (and am reading) a lot of books by emerging church leaders, and it seems that when they donโ€™t have a word to describe what they are trying to say, they just invent one. One term being thrown around today which is not mentioned in the satirical article above is โ€œglocalโ€ which refers to how Christians must be both global and local in their missional mindset.

Missional WordsThere was a time about a year ago, when I thought that if I heard the word โ€œmissionalโ€ one more time, I was going to throw up. Now, I have somewhat resigned myself to the fact that it is a term that is going to stick, and to a large degree, I am trying to live โ€œmissionally.โ€

One term that still gets me queasy, however, is โ€œImago Dei.โ€ Itโ€™s Latin for โ€œImage of God,โ€ which I donโ€™t mind at all. My question is, โ€œWhy use Latin, when the English is just fine?โ€ There is only one reason I can think of: “Imago Dei” sounds smarter and cooler.

Emerging Church Isn’t so Relevant After All

The terminology of the Emerging Church brings up the second reason I found the Lark article funny.

One of the criticisms leveled at traditional churches by the โ€œemergent/emergingโ€ crowd is that they use too much technical language, theological terms, and Christian jargon that nobody understands. They say we should root out of our vocabulary words like โ€œjustification, sanctification, glorification, dispensationalism, eschatologyโ€ and other similar terms.

But ironically, they have gone and created their own vocabulary that nobody understands except those who are โ€œin.โ€ย  And yet, people who are excited and intrigued by what the emerging/emergent churches are doing are willing to learn the terminology and begin using it themselves.

You know what this means? Getting our message heard is not about weeding out tricky terminology. Itโ€™s speaking and writing with a passion and excitementย so that others are not only willing to listen, but also to learn and adopt the language.

Look at text messaging as an example. Text messengers have developed their own entire language. I understand very little of it, but those who want to communicate with other cellphone users have learned the language and terms and created their own sub-culture. To see what I mean, check out this list of texting acronyms.

So can you use words like justification and sanctification? Sure! These words are more Biblical than words like “missional,” “emerging,” and “glocal.” But whatever terminology you use, donโ€™t speak and write in a way that is dispassionate and cold toward God, His Word, and all those in the world who are seeking direction (whether believers or unbelievers). While we want to be as clear as possible, if you use terminology that people donโ€™t understand, they will try to learn that terminology if they catch your passion and vision.

In other words, if you cast a vision you are passionate about, people will follow, even if you use words like “glocal,” “imago dei,” “missional,” and “justification.”

And just in case you don’t know what “missional” means, here is some explanation.ย In a recent article, Brad Brisco shows how impossible this is. Missional is a whole new way of doing church. Here is an excerpt:

Despite the fact that missional language has been in use for at least a quarter of a century, it is being applied today in a wide variety of ways. Unfortunately, many times resulting in confusion. Some view missional as the latest church growth strategy, or a better way of doing church evangelism. Others see missional as a means to mobilize church members to do missions more effectively. While still others believe missional is simply the latest Christian fad that will soon pass when the next trendy topic comes along.

I would argue that those who believe missional is merely an add-on to current church activities, or perhaps even a passing craze prevalent only among church leaders, have simply not fully grasped the magnitude of the missional conversation. While it may sound like hyperbole; the move towards missional involves no less than a complete and thorough recalibration of the form and function of the church of Jesus.

In other words … do you want to be truly “missional”? Great! Just talk like other people and use words that everyone understands. Speak to be clear; not to be cool.

God is Redeeming Church, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, emergent, emerging church, evangelism, missional, Theology of the Church, writing

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