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Can the Unbeliever Understand the Things of God? (1 Corinthians 2:14)

By Jeremy Myers
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Can the Unbeliever Understand the Things of God? (1 Corinthians 2:14)

1ย Corinthians 2:14 seems to be the perfect passage to defend the Calvinistic teaching of total inability, for it seems to say that the natural man cannot accept or understand the things of God.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned (1 Corinthians 2:14).

How Calvinists Explain 1 Corinthians 2:14

1 Corinthians 2:14Regarding this verse, Calvinists are not shy in stating their beliefs about what it teaches.

This does not mean that a person cannot have a rational understanding of Christianity or of what the Bible teaches apart from the illumination of his or her mind by the Spirit. In one sense, a scholar can understand and even teach theology as well as any other branch of human knowledge. โ€ฆ [But] if they are asked their personal opinion of what they present, they say that it is all nonsense. It is in this sense that they, not being โ€œspiritual,โ€ are unable to understand Christianity (Boice and Ryken, Doctrines of Grace, 78).

Man cannot see or know the things that relate to the kingdom of God, without being regenerated first by the Holy Spirit. A dead spirit perceives only the things of man and Satan (Spencer, TULIP, 34).

The reason that the brilliant minds do not accept Christianity is that all minds are blind, unless they are regenerated. โ€ฆ Without the Holy Spirit one is not able to understand the things of God (Palmer, Five Points, 16).

As can be seen from these quotes, Calvinists use 1 Corinthians 2:14 to support the idea that unbelievers cannot grasp or understand the things of God. For this, they first need to be regenerated.

Calvinists have also been known to use this verse against other Christians who disagree with the Calvinistic teachings and doctrines. If a brother or sister in Christ takes a stand against Calvinistic theology, there are some Calvinists who will accuse this dissenter of having their minds darkened, of living without the Holy Spirit, and of being unable to spiritually discern the truth of Calvinism. I myself have had this charge leveled against me by Calvinists. The implication, of course, is that only Calvinists are truly Christians.

Sadly, such divisiveness within the Body of Christ is caused by a grave misunderstanding of Paulโ€™s point in 1 Corinthians 2:14.

The Situation in Corinth

In Corinth there was much divisiveness as well, and one of the purposes of Paulโ€™s letter was to correct the issues that led to this divisiveness. Paul knew that sometimes, correcting those who err is what leads to healing and unity. The faction in Corinth which was causing the problems believed in a hyper-spiritual form of Christianity. These โ€œspiritual elitesโ€ are referred to throughout Paulโ€™s letters as โ€œthe spiritual [ones]โ€ (Gk., pneumatikoi).

They believed they had special knowledge and wisdom from God, special gifts from the Holy Spirit, and special insights into death and resurrection. This sort of hyper-spirituality led them to make a dualistic division between the physical realm and the spiritual realm, so that anything they did in the flesh did not affect their spirit, and vice versa. Such a belief had devastating consequences on the behaviors of the Corinthian believers, so that one of their leaders was even having sexual relations with his mother-in-law, and they were all proud about it (1 Corinthians 5:1-2).

The Context of 1 Corinthians 2:14

It is within this context that 1 Corinthians 2 must be read.ย Paul is trying to show them where true wisdom comes from, and how people learn about the things of God. Within the immediate context of 1 Corinthians 2:14, Paul talks about three types of people: the naturalโ€“soulish (Gk., psuchicos) man (1 Corinthians 2:14), the spiritual (Gk., pneumatikos) man (1 Corinthians 2:15), and the carnalโ€“fleshly (Gk., sarkinois) man (1 Corinthians 3:1).

body, soul, spiritThese three types of people reflect the three part of a person which we looked at in the discussion of Romans 7. But one should not read into these three divisions some sort of classification about whether or not people have eternal life. After all, though many identify the spiritual man with those who have eternal life, and the fleshly man with those who do not, what then are we to do with the soulish man? Instead, it seems best to see that Paul is talking about how all people learn spiritual things, whether they are regenerate or not. And how is that? People learn spiritual things through their spirit. Spiritual truth is spiritually discerned.

This is why, Paul goes on to say, he could not teach the Corinthians very much when he was with them previously. When he was there, they were operating out of their flesh, and so he could only provide them with milk teaching, not solid food for the mature (1 Corinthians 3:1-2). And indeed, though they now believe they are super-spiritual, Paul says they are still carnal, for they exhibit all the signs of operating through the flesh.

Again, all of this goes back to an understanding of how a person functions. The soul is the animating principle of a person, and it can operate through the spirit or the body. Since the soul is the seat of the imagination, memory, reason, and emotions, when a soul functions through the spirit, we can talk of a person being spiritually minded. But when a person operates through their flesh, they are carnally minded. Paul is saying that the Corinthian believers, though they have the Spirit of God, are carnally minded (1 Corinthians 3:1-17).

The Natural Man Cannot Receive the Things of God

This then brings us back to 1 Corinthians 2:14. When Paul says that the โ€œsoulishโ€ man cannot receive the things of the Spirit of God, he is simply saying that the soul of a person, by itself, with only imagination, memory, reason, and emotions to guide it, cannot grasp spiritual truth. Spiritual truth is learned through the spirit. Spiritual truth is not learned through the soul, nor through the flesh, but only through the spirit. Of course, as we saw in the discussion of Romans 7, the unregenerate person is spiritually dead, which means their spirit is separated from God and thus, they cannot properly receive spiritual truth from God until they receive a new Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit.

So inย 1 Corinthians 2:14, ย Paul is simply saying that spiritual truth is not a product of reason, imagination, or emotions. Spiritual truth is spiritually discerned. That is all Paul is saying. Speaking to the Corinthian believers as he was, Paul is inviting them to not seek to learn about God by their reason and emotions alone, but through the Spirit of God which was in them. Of course, this does not set aside reason and emotions either, for these can operate through the spirit to discern spiritual truth.

The bottom line is that Paul is giving a warning to believers in 1 Corinthians 2:14 to not depend solely on their imagination, reason, or emotions to learn about God. In this way, though implications for unbelievers could be drawn from 1 Corinthians 2:14, this verse is not primarily about unbelievers at all.

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The NIV Translation of 1 Corinthians 2:14 is Tragic

This is partly why the NIV translation of 1 Corinthians 2:14 is so tragic. I indicated earlier that the NIV translation of the Bible leans heavily toward Calvinistic thinking and theology, and 1 Corinthians 2:14 is an example of one such place. Where most Bible translations accurately translate the Greek as saying something along the lines of โ€œThe natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God,โ€ the NIV reads Calvinistic theology into this verse, and assumes that the natural man does not even have the Spirit, and so translated the verse this way: โ€œThe person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God.โ€

But as pointed out earlier, the โ€œnatural manโ€ might be better translated as โ€œsoulish manโ€ and has nothing whatsoever to do with whether this โ€œmanโ€ has the Spirit of God or not. The soulish man is simply contrasted with the spiritual man and the carnal man of the following verses, showing the three realms within which a person can dwell.

Other Evidence for the Meaning of 1 Corinthians 2:14

William Barclay sums up the message of 1 Corinthians 2:14 quite well:

So in verse 14 Paul speaks of the man who is psuchikos. He is the man who lives as if there was nothing beyond physical life and there were no needs other than material needs, whose values are all physical and material. A man like that cannot understand spiritual things. A man who thinks that nothing is more important than the satisfaction of the sex urge cannot understand the meaning of chastity; a man who ranks the amassing of material things as the supreme end of life cannot understand generosity; and a man who has never a thought beyond this world cannot understand the things of God. To him they look mere foolishness (Barclay, Letters to Corinthians, 1975, 28).

The natural man, or soulish man, then, is not the man without the Spirit, or even the carnal man. The natural, soulish, man is simply referring to the person who relates to life solely through his intellect, emotions, and will, without regard to spiritual truth. While this may describe many people who are unregenerate, it by no means describes them all, and in fact, accurately describes quite a few Christians as well. A person who has the Spirit of God can be a soulish man just as much as one who does not have the indwelling Spirit.

Numerous other lines of evidence could also be drawn out from this verse to show that Paul is saying nothing whatsoever about the unregenerate personโ€™s inability to understand or believe the gospel. For example, it could be argued that the โ€œthings of the Spiritโ€ that Paul is referring to are about the deeper truths and mysteries of the gospel that Paul has been referring to previously in 1 Corinthians 2:9-15 (See Vance, The Other Side of Calvinism, 231). This would then have nothing to do with whether or not the unregenerate person could understand the offer of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ, and believe in Him as a result.

unbeliever receive the things of GodFurthermore, it could also be argued that when Paul says the natural man โ€œdoes notโ€ receive the things of the Spirit of God, โ€œnor can he know them,โ€ he is not referring to an inherent inability to do so, but rather to an antagonistic mindset that refuses to seek the truth and understand these things.

Why would a person refuse to seek the truth and understand the gospel? Because men love darkness rather than light (John 3:19). As Paul writes elsewhere, the mind that is set on the flesh (rather than the Spirit) is hostile and antagonistic toward God (Rom 8:7). People know that seeking the truth, believing in God, and following Jesus will require them to change their lives, and most are unwilling to do so. Paulโ€™s โ€œsoulish manโ€ is simply the person who does not obey the truths of the gospel because they are unwilling to learn the truths of the gospel.

Most dangerous of all was a mindset that was prevalent within the Corinthian church, which is also quite prevalent in various forms of the modern church, especially among those sorts of groups (like Calvinists and Charismatics) that require some sort of special knowledge, experience, gifting, or insight into the โ€œdeep thingsโ€ of God in order to truly grasp the gospel and be used by God. This sort of teaching was part of the Gnostic heresy in the early church, but has worked its way through numerous forms of the modern church as well. On this subject, Philip J. Lee writes this:

Americans in the two opposing strains of Protestantism, the evangelical and liberal, along with many adherents of Pentecostal and holiness cults, would agree that religious knowledge is special knowledge that cannot be taught or learned by ordinary means (Philip J. Lee, Against the Protestant Gnostics, 113).

Can unbelievers understand the Scriptures?

Of course they can.

We are not Gnostics, and the Bible is not a book of mysterious magic and arcane knowledge which can only be grasped by initiates who have the sacred decoder ring. No, while understanding the Scriptures certainly takes serious effort and years of study, it can be understood and grasped by anyone who seeks to do so. To say that only the โ€œelectโ€ or only a special class of gifted Christians can understand the Scriptures is to fall into the ancient error of Gnosticism. Paul does not fall into this error, but instead says that if one is to understand spiritual truth, it must be spiritually discerned, which means that it must be studied through the use of the spirit.

So in the end, 1 Corinthians 2:14 is not about an unbelieverโ€™s inability to understand the things of God, but about the incapacity of reason and emotions to understand the things of God on their own. When properly paired with the Spirit, the soul, or mind, of a person can grasp and understand spiritual truth.

If you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: 1 Corinthians 2:14, Books by Jeremy Myers, Calvinism, carnal, natural man, spiritual, Theology of Man, Theology of Salvation, Total Depravity, total inability, TULIP

Help me Title my Next Book!

By Jeremy Myers
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Help me Title my Next Book!

My next book should be out within the next month or so, but I am really having trouble giving it a title. So I thought you could help!

Oh, and by the way, if you want to get this next book for free, make sure you have signed up to get updates through my email newsletter. That is how I let people know that the free books are available. By way of saying โ€œThank you,โ€ I will send you โ€œSkeleton Churchโ€ just for signing up.

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My Next Book Has No Title (yet)

My next book is about two different things.

The first part of the book is about transforming the practice of baptism and the Lordโ€™s supper to something that more accurately reflects the symbolism and significance of these events when they were first done by Jesus.

The second part of the book is about willingly sacrificing our God-given and constitutional rights for the sake of others. It is not uncommon for people (even Christians) to sue others because their โ€œrightsโ€ were violated. I often wonder what would happen if, for the sake of the gospel, rather than sue people over our rights, we followed Paulโ€™s advice in 1 Corinthians 6:7: โ€œWhy not rather be wronged?โ€

You might say โ€œWhat a strange mixture for a book.โ€

Yes, but when you think about it, they go together quite nicely. Christians get up in arms whenever anybody messes with the โ€œritesโ€ of baptism and the Lordโ€™s Supper, and we get up in arms whenever anybody messes with our legal โ€œrights,โ€ such as the right to free speech, the right to practice our religion, or the right to bear arms.

Do you see where I am going? In our efforts to protect our โ€œritesโ€ and our โ€œrightsโ€ we are ruining our witness and destroying the clarity of the gospel. The gospel of Jesus Christ is not about defending our religious rites or our legal rights, but about sacrificing everything for the sake of others.

If you want to read a rough draft of the content of this book, check out the sections on this page: โ€œClose Your Church for Goodโ€ about โ€œGiving up Your Ritesโ€ and โ€œGiving Up Your Rights.โ€

What Book Title Do You Suggest?

what is the book titleSo, with all of that in mind, does anybody have any suggestion for a book title? Here is a brainstorm list of my own:

  • Dying to your rights
  • Die to Your Rites/Rights
  • No Rights to your Rites
  • Give up your Rites/Rights
  • The Right Rites
  • Getting our Rites Right
  • Dying to Religion and Empire
  • You have no rights/rites
  • Donโ€™t Fight for your Rights/Rites
  • No Rights to your Rites
  • The Religious Rites
  • You Have the Rite to be Wrong
  • Am I Rite? Am I Right?
  • Brighter Americans: Not Clinging to our Guns and Religion
  • Divine Rites to Unholy Rights
  • The Right to Give Up (Thanks Jim Davey!)

You donโ€™t have to choose from these. Make up your own, and suggest it in the comment section below! Use the share buttons to invite others to give their input.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: blogging, Books by Jeremy Myers, close your church for good, Close Your Church for Good, publishing, rights, rites, writing

A True Foot Washing Service

By Jeremy Myers
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A True Foot Washing Service

mental illnessI deal with men who are mentally ill on a weekly basis at my job. Recently, a young man named Daniel came into my office and said he had a message for me from God. He handed me a note, which said this:

John, as an honor, asked him how might it be that I should wash your feet. He asked, I am. Would you have your brother too, be he, whom would be left to the way? No, say I! Not thy will, but albeit, your will be done, Lord. Amen.

I thanked Daniel for the message from God. He smiled and left.

You might recognize bits of that message as coming from John 13, where Jesus sought to wash the disciplesโ€™ feet and Peter objected.

When people say that they are giving me a message from God, very rarely do I think that it is actually a message from God. But with this message from Daniel, I tend to think it was.

โ€œWhat!?โ€ You might say. โ€œItโ€™s gibberish. It doesnโ€™t make any sense! God wouldnโ€™t do that!โ€

Wouldnโ€™t He? Have you read the book of Revelation recently? … But this post isnโ€™t about bibliology, so letโ€™s move onโ€ฆ

Thinking about Foot Washing Services

I think it truly was a message from God because that very week I had been thinking about these โ€œfoot washing ceremoniesโ€ which we sometimes have in church. Can I be frank? I think theyโ€™re stupid. I think that foot washing ceremonies completely miss the point of why Jesus washed the disciplesโ€™ feet.

Jesus performed that task because it was the most menial task that a household servant could perform at that time. Youโ€™ve heard the cultural background, Iโ€™m sure. People wore sandals as they walked around in the dusty streets, which were also full of animal droppings. Nobody wanted all this tracked through their house.

Besides, they ate meals at low tables while they reclined on the ground. Which means that everybody was down near foot level. Imagine how feet must have stunk! So they had the lowest of the low household servants wash everybodyโ€™s feet as they entered the house.

To show his disciples how much He loved them, He washed their feet. That is, He became the lowest of the low servants in the house.

foot washing ceremonyDoes a modern foot washing ceremony do this? Hardly. More often than not, people who attend these foot washing ceremonies make sure that they washed their feet in advance and scraped all the gunk out of their toenails. Then they wear a clean pair of socks and shoes.

A True Foot Washing Service

If have often thought that if we really wanted to follow the spirit and symbolism of that first foot washing ceremony, we would find the dirtiest and most menial tasks in our churches, our neighborhoods, or our homes, and do those.

I have heard of pastors who pick up cigarette butts from the church parking lot, and go change diapers in the nursery. Thatโ€™s foot washing! I have heard of youth pastors who led their youth group on a missionโ€™s trip to the local outhouses near where the homeless people live and cleaned them up. Thatโ€™s foot washing! My friend, Sam Riviera, often walks around where the homeless are and picks up trash along the street. He says it is not uncommon to find used condoms and syringes. Thatโ€™s foot washing!

But let me get back to Daniel and his note. His note to me from God reminded me that washing someone elseโ€™s feet is not just about what you do, but whom you do it for. Yes, Jesus washed the feet of his disciples, but remember, Judas was there too. Do you think Jesus skipped Judas as being โ€œunworthyโ€? I doubt it.

It seemed to me that Danielโ€™s note was an invitation for me to โ€œwash the feetโ€ of the mentally ill I encounter every week. How? By listening to them with patience, even when I donโ€™t understand a word they are saying. The mentally ill are often mocked, neglected, and abused by those who should love, protect, defend, and care for them. Maybe I can be a kind voice. A helping hand. A listening ear. A pat on the back.

If you donโ€™t know anyone who is mentally ill, thatโ€™s okay. There are other people whose feet you can wash. Maybe you could โ€œwash the feetโ€ of Muslim neighbors by being kind to them (without trying to convert or condemn them). Maybe you could โ€œwash the feetโ€ of homeless people by giving them a meal, even when you know they waste all their money on drugs.

There are thousands of ways to wash peopleโ€™s feet, and billions of people who need their feet washed.

Open your eyes. Look around. There is pain and fear all around, just waiting for someone to wash it away. After all, โ€œWould you have your brother too, be he, whom would be left to the way?โ€


This post is part of the October 2014 Synchroblog. Below is a list of other contributors. Go read them all!

  • Sarah Griffith Lund โ€“ Stronger Together
  • Liz Dyer โ€“ Finding the Courage to Break the Silence
  • Stacy Sergent โ€“ โ€ชNo Longer Protecting Secrets
  • Patricia Watson โ€“ Grace Amid Crazy
  • Glenn Hager โ€“ When Mental Illness Strikes Home
  • Crystal Rice โ€“ Looking Well on the Outside
  • Cara Strickland โ€“ Making Peace With My Mental Illness
  • David Hosey โ€“ The church, the psych ward, and me
  • Ona Marie โ€“ Mental Illness, Family, and Church
  • Carol Kuniholm โ€“ A Prayer for the Broken
  • Susan Herman โ€“ 3 Self Care Rituals for Managing Tough Transitions
  • Eric Atcheson โ€“ Blessed Are The Crazy
  • Joan Peacock โ€“ โ€œAlice in Wonderlandโ€, a Bipolar BookGroup Discussion Guide
  • Justin Steckbauer โ€“ Mental Illness, Awareness, and Jesus
  • Kathy Escobar โ€“ Mental Illness: 3 Sets of 3 Things
  • Leah Sophia โ€“ Mental Illness/Health Awareness
  • Josh Morgan โ€“ Peace Between Spirituality and Mental Health
  • Tara Ulrich โ€“ Breaking the Silence
  • Sarah Renfro โ€“ Blessed Are The Crazy
  • Steve Hayes โ€“ Mental illness and the Christian faith
  • Mindi Welton-Mitchell โ€“ Breaking the Silence: Disability, Mental Illness and the Church
  • Michelle Torigian โ€“ A Life of Baby Steps
  • Bec Cranford-Smith โ€“ Mental Health and the Pastor

 

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, evangelism, foot washing, homeless, mental illness, mission, service

How to Gird Up Your Loins (In Case You Ever Wondered)

By Jeremy Myers
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How to Gird Up Your Loins (In Case You Ever Wondered)

I saw this on the internet this week, and thought it was kind of funny… but also informative. If you have ever wondered how to gird up your loins, here is the definitive guide:

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God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, humor

Romans 8:7-8, Enmity with God, and Calvinism

By Jeremy Myers
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Romans 8:7-8, Enmity with God, and Calvinism

Romans 8:7-8 is often used to defend the Calvinistic doctrines of Total Depravity and total inability. The text says this:

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can it be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God (Romans 8:7-8).

Regarding this text, Calvinist commentator John Murray says that โ€œEnmity against Godโ€ is nothing other than total depravity and โ€œcannot please Godโ€ nothing less than total inability (Murray, Epistle to the Romans, 1:287).

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“The Flesh” in Romans

But, as with the discussion of Romans 7, it is important to know what Paul means when he writes about “the flesh” in his letters.

The flesh is dead and dying. The flesh is separated from God, is corrupted, and when the soul attempts to operate through the flesh, only sin-tainted behavior results.

The unbeliever, of course, since He does not have the Spirit of God, has no choice but to operate through the flesh. As we have seen in the discussion about the three parts of a person, this says nothing whatsoever about the ability (or inability) of the unregenerate person to believe in Jesus for eternal life. It is not โ€œthe fleshโ€ that believes in Jesus, but the soul.

So while Paul is absolutely right that the flesh cannot please God, we should not understand Paul to be saying that a person cannot believe in Jesus for eternal life. God calls all to believe in Jesus, and since faith is not a work of the soul through the corrupted flesh, the soul is able to believe in Jesus and receive eternal life from Him.

Unbelievers are Not the Focus on Romans 8:7-8

Of course, having said this, it is important to note that the unregenerate person is not the subject of Paulโ€™s statement in Romans 8:7-8.

Instead, Paul is writing about the experience of believers.

In Romans 7, he wrote about the ongoing struggle with sin that every person experiences (both believer and unbeliever alike), and concluded that description by rejoicing that God has provided a way through Jesus Christ for people to be freed from the bondage to decay and corruption that was brought about by the body of death. As a result of Jesus and the indwelling Holy Spirit, our mind can now serve the law of God, even though the flesh still serves the law of sin (Romans 7:25).

Based on this understanding, Paul goes on in Romans 8 to call believers who have received the Spirit of God to live according to the Spirit, and not according to the old man, the corrupted flesh.

Romans 8 is a Call for Believers to Live According to the Spirit

In Romans 8, Paul calls believers to stop walking according to the flesh, and start living according to the Spirit (Romans 8:1). He invites us to no longer set our mind (our soul) on the flesh, but to set our mind (our soul) on the things of the Spirit (Romans 8:4).

Romans 8 flesh vs spirit

He goes on to explain that when believers live according to the flesh, we are carnally (or fleshly) minded, which leads to death. But if we live through the Spirit, we will finally discover the life and peace that we have always desired, but could never accomplish through the flesh (Romans 8:6).

Paul says that since we have the Spirit, we can now live for God (Romans 8:9), but we must make the choice to do so, for even though the Spirit of life is in us, the body of sin is still there as well, seeking to lead us back into death, decay, and destruction (Romans 8:10-15).

What this all means then is that Paulโ€™s statement in Romans 8:7-8 about the carnal mind not being able to please God is that Paul is not primarily referring to unregenerate people, but to those who are regenerate, who have the Spirit of God, but who choose to live according to the flesh.

Such behavior, though carried out by Christians, is not pleasing to God.

He gave us His Spirit so that we might live a new life, a life free from the damaging and destructive consequences of sin. By choosing to live through the flesh, we invite the natural consequences of sin down upon our heads (Paul calls this wrath), which saddens and troubles God.

God wants us to be delivered from sin, not just in our position of being โ€œin Christ,โ€ but also in our daily experience.

Romans

This, in large part, is what the book of Romans is all about. It is not primarily about how people can escape hell and go to heaven when they die. Romans is about how Christians can be delivered from the consequences of sin and experience the life God wants for us, and thus, inviting the world into our experience of the rule and reign of God.

Romans 8:7-8, then, says nothing about Total Depravity or total inability of unregenerate people. Instead, these verses are an invitation from Paul to believers to reject the way of death, and choose the way of life instead.

If you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Books by Jeremy Myers, Calvinism, Discipleship, Romans 8:7-8, Theology of Salvation, Theology of Sin, Total Depravity, total inability, TULIP

Romans 7: Did Paul Struggle with Sinful Flesh?

By Jeremy Myers
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Romans 7: Did Paul Struggle with Sinful Flesh?

Romans 7 Calvinists sometimes quote from Romans 7 as a text which teaches Total Depravity and total inability, for Paul seems to describe a lack of ability to do anything good (Romans 7:15, 19, 24), and refers to being captive and enslaved to sin (Romans 7:14, 23). Paul says that although he wants to do what is right, he ends up doing what is wrong. Romans 7:19 one such verse which sums up the struggle nicely:

For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice (Romans 7:19).

Part of the problem with Romans 7, however, is that people from all streams of Christianity are all over the map about whether Romans 7 describes Paulโ€™s experience as a Christian or as a non-Christian. While everybody agrees that Paul is writing about a struggle with sin, there is little agreement about whether Paul is describing how a Christian struggles with sin or a non-Christian.

1. Paul is Describing His Experience as a Christian

There are many who believe that Paul is describing his own experience as a Christian. It is pointed out that Paul uses the personal pronoun โ€œIโ€ and numerous present tense verbs throughout this passage. Furthermore, Paul references the โ€œinward manโ€ (Romans 7:22) and his โ€œmindโ€ which is at war with his โ€œfleshโ€ (Romans 7:23, 25).

Some argue that only a regenerate person has an inner man or a renewed mind which is able to war against the flesh.ย  Finally, nearly all Christians struggle with sin on a daily basis, and many note that the experience Paul describes seems to fit our own experience perfectly. It is comforting to know that even Paul struggled in this battle against sin.

2. Paul is Describing His Experience as a Pharisaical Jew

Others argue, however, that there are good exegetical reasons to think that Paul may be referring to his past struggle against sin as an unregenerate religious Jew.

For example, although Paul does use first-person pronouns and the present tense, he did not use this sort of grammar in Romans 6, the first part of Romans 7, or on into Romans 8 where it is perfectly clear that Paul is talking about regenerate people. It is suggested that Paul switches pronouns and verb tense in Romans 7:14-20 because he does not want to describe the experience of regenerate people, but describe rather his own personal experience as a religious Pharisaical Jew. He had the law of God, and tried his hardest to obey it, but completely failed.

Finally, many believe that a Christian who is truly indwelled with the Spirit of God should have more victory over sin than what Paul describes in Romans 7:15-20.

Calvinists are not United on Romans 7

Like all other brands of Christianity, Calvinists do not speak with a unified voice in this debate.

For example, J. I. Packer says that,

Grammatically, โ€ฆ the natural way to read it would be as a transcript of Paulโ€™s self-knowledge at the time of writing … (Packer, Keep in Step with the Spirit,ย 264-267).

However, a leading Calvinist professor like Anthony Hoekema declares the opposite:

The mood of frustration and defeat that permeates this section does not comport with the mood of victory in terms of which Paul usually describes the Christian life. The person pictured is still a captive of the law of sin (7:23), whereas the believer described in 6:17-18 is no longer a slave to sin (Hoekema, Five Views of Sanctification, 232).

Yet no matter which view a Calvinist takes, this passage creates problems for their system of theology.

If the Calvinist agrees with J. I. Packer that Romans 7 is a description of the ongoing struggle with sin that every Christian faces (including the Apostle Paul), then this passage creates problems for the Calvinistic doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints. We will see how in the chapter on that topic.

But if a Calvinist takes the alternate opinion, along with Hoekema, and says that Romans 7 describes the condition and experience of the unbeliever, then this text creates problems for their teachings on total inability.

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As seen in earlier postsย through numerous quotes from Calvinists, total inability teaches that mankind does not have a will to do anything other than sin. They do not have the will to comprehend, understand, or choose to do the will of God.

Yet Paul writes that he does will to do the good (Romans 7:15, 19, 21). He even delights in the law of God (Romans 7:22) and does not will to do what is evil (Romans 7:19). None of this sounds at all like the total inability described by Calvinists.

Paul’s Point in Romans 7

To understand Paulโ€™s point in Romans 7, it is important to delve briefly into the realm of biblical anthropology, where we learn that man consists of three parts: body, soul, and spirit. (Click the link to read this brief study).

The traditional question regarding whether Paul is talking about his experience as a Christian or a non-Christian can be answered by remember what we learned about the three parts of a person.

Is Paul talking about his experience as a non-Christian or a Christian? Paul is talking about both!

People who became Christians as adults know from experience that prior to believing in Jesus, they often struggled with sin and fought against the desires of their flesh, usually to no avail. Success in one area often came at the expense of greater failure in another.

wretched man Romans 7Yet although Christians gain the illuminating and empowering influence of the Holy Spirit when we first believe in Jesus for eternal life, we all know that the struggle with sin did not cease. It continues daily. Yes, victory is now possible, for greater is He that is in us than He that is in the world, but this does not mean that the struggle against the flesh is gone. We too, along with Paul, often cry โ€œWho will deliver me from this body of death?โ€

Sin is Always a Struggle, but the Spirit Helps Us

This understanding of Romans 7 once again undermines the Calvinistic doctrine of total inability.

Though it is true that the soul of an unregenerate man cannot do anything good through his dead spirit or dying and corrupted body, the ability to believe in Jesus for eternal life does not depend upon the spirit or the body, but is a function of the soul alone.

Faith, remember, is being convinced or persuaded that something is true. Though the soul often receives bad data from the body and the spirit, and poorly reasons as a result, the soul is still able to believe in Jesus when the offer of eternal life is presented to it.

Romans 7, then, does not teach Total Depravity or total inability, but is rather a description of the constant struggle with sin that all people face, whether regenerate or unregenerate. The Spirit, given to us by God at the moment we believe, helps us gain deliverance from the power of sin in our lives.

If you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Books by Jeremy Myers, Calvinism, Romans 7, sin, Theology of Salvation, Theology of Sin, Total Depravity, total inability, TULIP

Humans have three parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit

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Humans have three parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit

The Bible seems to present humans as consisting of three parts: body, soul, and spirit (1 Thessalonians 5:23; Hebrews 4:12).

This is called the โ€œtripartiteโ€ nature of man. Much like the divine Trinity, the three partsย of a human make one being. Though distinct, the three parts of a person work together to live, exist, and interact with God and creation.

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The Three Parts: Body, Soul, and Spirit

The body is the physical side of a person. It touches the material world through the five senses of sight, smell, hearing, taste, touch.

The spirit is the spiritual side of man. It interacts with God and the spiritual realm through its own set of โ€œsenses,โ€ things like faith, hope, and prayer.

The soul is the life of a person. It is the animating principle of a person, and is responsible for imagination, memory, reason, and emotions. As such, the soul serves as the command center for the person. Neither the body nor the spirit can function on its own; both look to the soul for direction and action.

What Happened to the Three Parts of Humanity in the Fall?

When Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden of Eden, they died spiritually and sin corrupted their body, so that it too began to die.

Nevertheless, they remained โ€œaliveโ€ because their soul remained. Yet the soul, the animating principle of a person, can only function through the spirit or through the body. The spirit, which was dead, could do nothing for the soul.

The body, however, was only dying, and so the soul could function through the body. Yet because of the corruption of sin, the body produced only sin and death. This is what Paul refers to as โ€œthe flesh.โ€

What Happens to the Three Parts of a Human in Regeneration?

In the Hebrew Scriptures, God promised to give a new spirit to His people (Ezek 36:26), which we now know was the โ€œHoly Spiritโ€ that came at Pentecost (Acts 2).

The Bible also says that in the future resurrection, we will be given glorified and incorruptible bodies (1 Cor 15:52). When that happens, each person will once again be as God intended and planned, perfect in body, soul, and spirit so that we can live and function as a whole, united person.

But that time is not yet.

In the present age, unbelievers have a soul which often seeks to do good, and wills to do good, but since they do not have the Holy Spirit, they cannot do anything to please God. And since their body is corrupted with sin, the soul cannot obey God through the flesh either.

Once a person believes in Jesus for eternal life (this is a function of the soul), God sends the Holy Spirit to regenerate, indwell, baptize, and seal the new believer. The old, dead spirit of man is replaced by the Holy Spirit of God.

As a result, the soul of believer can choose to walk in the Spirit or walk in the flesh (Gal 5:16-26). Yet due to the force of habit, addiction, bad choices, or just plain ignorance, we often choose instead to life through the flesh, which results in sin.

Though we may desire to do something else, and now have the ability through the Spirit to actually live differently, the body of sin drags us down into death and destruction with it (Rom 7:24).

We will see tomorrow why this study is important (It helps us understand what Paul is talking about in Romans 7).

Here are a few images which I found online which seem to show what I am saying in a graphic representation of our three parts:

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body soul spirit

Have you read or studied much about the three parts of man? Some believe we have only two parts: the body and a soul/spirit. What are your thoughts on the three parts of man? Do you have anything to add to what I have written above?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: 1 Thessalonians 5:23, body, Books by Jeremy Myers, Hebrews 4:12, soul, spirit, Theology of Man, Theology of Sin, tripartite

Paul Does Not Teach Total Depravity in Romans 3

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Paul Does Not Teach Total Depravity in Romans 3

Romans 3 in contextYesterday we look at the context of Romans 3 to see that Paul is not teaching Total Depravity or total inability in Romans 3:9-20. Today we want to take a closer look at Romans 3:10-12 to see what Paul is really teaching in these verses. We argued briefly that Romans 3 is part of an “epistolary diatribe” against an imaginary objector.

Of course, even if one does not accept the idea that Romans is an โ€œepistolary diatribe,โ€ the point of Romans 3:9-20 is still the same.

In either case, Paul is saying that Jewish people have traditionally thought that as Godโ€™s elect, they existed in a privileged position before God. In a sense, Jewish people believed God needed them to carry out His plan and purposes for the world, and so even if they sinned and fell away from Him, He would eventually rescue and redeem them so that His promises to them could be fulfilled. One of Paulโ€™s points in Romans 1โ€“3 and 9โ€“11 is that this is not necessarily so.

Paul Quotes from the Hebrew Bible to Prove His Point

Paulโ€™s collection of quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures in Romans 3:10-18 is intended to show his readers that despite being the chosen people of God and having the Law and the Prophets, the Jewish people are just as guilty as the Gentiles.

Paulโ€™s point in Romans 3:9-20 is that if the Jewish people did have a privileged position by virtue of having the โ€œoracles of Godโ€ (Romans 3:2), then these oracles of God condemn them all as sinners, which puts them right back on equal footing with the Gentiles. Paul defends this point by quoting numerous texts from the Hebrew Scriptures which condemns them all as sinners.

Of course, Paul is not at all denying that Gentiles are sinners. To the contrary, he states in Romans 3:9 that โ€œallโ€ Jews and Greeks are under the power of sin. But Paul is not intending to make a statement about the universal Total Depravity of mankind. Instead, his point is that when it comes to being in right standing before God, Jews are on the same footing as Gentiles. Whatever Jews want to say of Gentiles is also true of Jews. To prove his point, Paul quotes numerous texts from the Hebrew Scriptures (Rom 3:10-18). Laurence Vance is absolutely right when he says this about Paulโ€™s point in Romans 3:

Paul, in establishing the universal guilt of both Jews and Gentiles (Romans 3:1, 9), quotes from the Old Testament to give weight to his arguments, not to charge each individual of the human race in particular with every indictment, nor to teach the inability of the unregenerate man to believe on Jesus Christ. There is a difference between establishing the universal depravity of man and charging individual men with sins (Vance, Other Side of Calvinism, 229).

Paul Quotes from Psalm 14 (cf. Psalm 53)

It is important to note that Romans 3:10-12 are quotations from Psalm 14:1-3 (cf. also 53:1-3). Many modern people like to say that Psalm 14 and 53 are condemning atheists when the Psalmist says, โ€œThe fool has said in his heart, โ€˜There is no God.โ€™โ€

Psalm 14But in the Psalmistโ€™s day, there was no such thing as atheism. Everybody believed in a God or gods. There were, however, many people who chose to live โ€œgodlessโ€ lives, that is, to live for themselves and not serve God. They believed that God existed, but they chose to not obey Him or follow His commands. It is this sort of person that the Psalmist has in mind in Psalm 14:1 (cf. 53:1).

Therefore, the rest of the statements in Psalm 14 describe this sort of person. Psalm 14 then, is not a chapter describing the Total Depravity of all people everywhere throughout time, but rather, the specific behavior of the people who choose to live with no regard for God in their lives.

Some argue from Psalm 14:7 that this Psalm was written during Israelโ€™s captivity, and so those who live without regard for God are the foreign captors who worship their own god but do not accept or believe in the God of Israel.

However, if this were the case, Paul would not be able to quote from Psalm 14 as a way to show that the Jews were just as guilty as the Gentiles. It seems better to understand Psalm 14 as a Psalm which calls to account those Jewish people who turned away from worshipping the God of Israel after being taken into captivity. Maybe they started worshipping foreign gods, or maybe they just decided to live without any god whatsoever.

Either way, note what the Psalmist says about these people. He does not say that they were born this way, or that they have always been this way. No, the Psalmist specifically says that they have become this way. He writes that they have โ€œturned aside โ€ฆ become corruptโ€ (Psalm 14:3). These Jewish people have chosen to abandon the worship of the God of Israel, and have turned aside into corruption and sin.

Poetic Hyperbole in Psalm 14

Furthermore, when the entirety of Psalm 14 is read, it becomes obvious that the Psalmist is using poetic hyperbole to describe the sin into which Godโ€™s people have fallen. Just like most poets, those who wrote the Psalms often used exaggerated imagery to make their point. This is true of the author of Psalm 14 as well.

For example, Psalm 14:4 says that the workers of iniquity โ€œeat up my people as they eat bread.โ€ They are not literally eating Godโ€™s people; they are not cannibals. No, this is an exaggerated and poetic way of saying that these people who live without regard for God are misusing, abusing, and destroying Godโ€™s people. So also with the rest of the Psalm.

The Psalmist is not saying that these people can never do any good whatsoever at all. No, he is using poetic hyperbole to point out the error of their ways. It is likely that Paul understands this, and has the same point in mind. His quotation from Psalm 14 is not a statement about the total depravity of mankind, but a statement about how Jews too have fallen into sin, just like the Gentiles.

Ultimately, as Paul states, โ€œall have sinned and fallen short of the glory of Godโ€ (Romans 3:23). While Romans 3 does not teach Total Depravity, it does teach universal sinfulness.

People Can (and do) Seek God

Romans 3:11, often thought to be a statement about the total inability of mankind, is also balanced by the fact that it comes from the exaggerated statements of Psalm 14, and is further balanced by the numerous statements in the Bible which says that humans can and do seek God (1 Chr 16:11; 2 Chr 11:16; Lam 3:25; Isa 55:6-7; Jer 29:13; Amos 5:4).

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Furthermore, it is critical to remember that one does not gain eternal life by seeking God, but by believing in Jesus Christ (John 3:16; 5:24; 6:47), which all people can do, for along with humanityโ€™s ability to seek God, Jesus seeks after people (Matthew 18:11; Luke 19:10), and in doing so, calls on all to believe in Him for eternal life. Many do not seek God, not because they cannot, but because they are proud and refuse to seek him (Psalm 10:4).

So by way of summary, Romans 3:9-20 does not teach Total Depravity or total inability.

While the chapter can be used to teach the universal sinfulness of humanity, the real point of this section of Paulโ€™s letter is to show that the Jewish people are on equal footing before God with the Gentiles.

There is no privileged position before God, not special status as Godโ€™s chosen people. Jewish people are sinful just like Gentile people. Both are equally in need of Godโ€™s righteous deliverance, which He offers freely to all through Jesus Christ.

If you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God.

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Books by Jeremy Myers, Calvinism, Psalm 14, Psalm 53, Romans 3, sin, Theology of Salvation, Theology of Sin, Total Depravity, total inability, TULIP

Is Paul teaching Calvinism in Romans 3:10-12?

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Is Paul teaching Calvinism in Romans 3:10-12?

Romans 3 and CalvinismOf all the various texts used to defend the Calvinistic teaching on Total Depravity, Romans 3:9-20 is one of the most popular (another being Ephesians 2:1-3). Rather than quote the entire passage, a few select verses from the beginning of this section are representative of the whole.

As it is written: โ€œThere is none righteous, no, not one; There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside; They have together become unprofitable; There is none who does good, no, not oneโ€ (Romans 3:10-12).

It is not difficult to see why these texts are popular among Calvinistic defenders of Total Depravity. The text clearly teaches that nobody is righteous or does any good, which sounds like Total Depravity, and that nobody understands or seeks after God, which seems to infer total inability.

Below are a few quotes from Calvinists on Romans 3:9-20.

The text โ€ฆ moves in a remarkable way from the general to the specific. Not only does it say there is none righteous, but it says there is none who does any good, no, not one. We are not considered unrighteous because the dross of sin is mixed together with our goodness. The indictment against us is more radical: in our corrupt humanity we never do a single good thing (Sproul, Grace Unknown, 120).

According to Romans 3, no one unaided by God 1) has any righteousness by which to lay a claim upon God, 2) has any true understanding of God, or 3) seeks God (Boice and Ryken, Doctrines of Grace, 79).

Romans 3:9-10 does not teach Total Depravity

Despite these sorts of statements from Calvinists, Romans 3:9-20 does not actually teach either Total Depravity or total inability. While Romans 3:9-20 does teach that all are sinners (cf. Romans 3:23), the overall context of this passage must be understood in light of the progression of Paulโ€™s argument if we are to grasp his point.

In other words, though this passage does seem to defend both Total Depravity and total inability when quoted out of context, when studied in its context the passage teaches something else entirely (Seeย Campbell, The Deliverance of God).

To fully grasp the argument, a complete analysis of Paulโ€™s entire letter would be necessary. But since that is impossible to do here, let me try to just point out a few of the highlights.

Context of Romans 3

Romans Is Not about How to Go to Heaven When you Die

First of all, it is critical to note that the overall message of Romans is not about justification or how to receive eternal life. In other words, Romans is not primarily directed toward unbelievers. Instead, the message of Romans is primarily directed toward believers, and specifically, how they can live and function as followers of Jesus who live according to the gospel of Christ (Romans 1:16-17).

In Romans, “Salvation” is about Deliverance from the Temporal Consequences of Sin NOW

Related to this, it is important to note that โ€œsalvationโ€ in Romans is not about how to go to heaven when you die, but about the salvation (or deliverance) that God provides to believers.

Lots of people think that Romans is just about how โ€œunsavedโ€ people can get โ€œjustificationโ€ so they can go to heaven when they die. But this approach to Romans doesnโ€™t really know what to do with Romans 9โ€“11 when Paul seems to suddenly switch gears and start talking about Godโ€™s covenant with Israel.

However, if we understand that Paul is primarily writing to believers and instructing them about the deliverance available to them in this life, then Romans 9โ€“11 becomes immediately applicable, for Paul uses the example of Israel to show what happens when Godโ€™s people do not live by faith, and as a result, are not delivered.

And donโ€™t think that Paul is threatening believers with hell. Hell is nowhere in Paulโ€™s discussion in Romans (not even in the phrase โ€œthe wrath of Godโ€).

So when Paul writes what he does in Romans 3:9-20, he is writing a warning to believers in Rome about becoming proud of their privileged position before God. In this section of Romans, Paul is pointing out that all people are on equal footing before God. There is no privileged position.

In Romans, Paul uses “Epistolary Diatribe” to Make His Point… (What?)

Third, and related to this, it is critical to understand exactly how Paul goes about making his argument. He is using specific rhetorical rules from the first century called epistolary diatribe argumentation.

What does that mean?

Paul didnโ€™t just sit down and write Romans based on whatever he wanted to say. No, in writing Romans, Paul followed a set pattern and structure which was quite common in the first century for when scholars, philosophers, and teachers wanted to refute the ideas of an opponent.

A large part of this diatribe structure involved quoting the ideas and words of your opponent so that you might then turn around and refute them. This means that some of the statements in Romans which have traditionally been attributed to Paul are actually the ideas and statements from an opponent of Paul, whom Paul quotes so that he can then refute those ideas (Seeย Campbell, The Deliverance of God).

So Romans 3 is not exactly a continuation of Paulโ€™s own argument and logic, but rather, a continuation of the argument Paul is having with an imaginary objector.

In other words, Romans 3:9-20 is part of Paulโ€™s rebuttal of an opponent, not a continuation of his own argument. In this way, Paulโ€™s collection of quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures in Romans 3:10-18 is intended to show his objector that despite being the chosen people of God and having the Law and the Prophets, the Jewish people are just as guilty as the Gentiles.

Romans context of Romans 3Up to this point, Paulโ€™s objector was trying to argue that only the Gentiles were guilty, and that the Jewish people had a privileged status before God. Paulโ€™s point in Romans 3:9-20 is that if the Jewish people did have a privileged position by virtue of having the โ€œoracles of Godโ€ (Romans 3:2), then these oracles of God condemn them all as sinners, which puts them right back on equal footing with the Gentiles.

In Romans 3:9-20, Paul defends this point by quoting numerous texts from the Hebrew Scriptures which condemns them all as sinners.

So far, we have only really looked at the context of Romans 3. Tomorrow, we will discuss what Paul is saying in Romans 3. Until then, what do you think about the context of Romans 3 as laid out above? Has anybody read that book by Campbell? What do you think of it?

If you want to read more about Calvinism, check out other posts in this blog series: Words of Calvinism and the Word of God.

God is z Bible & Theology Topics: Books by Jeremy Myers, Calvinism, Romans 3, sin, Theology of Salvation, Theology of Sin, Total Depravity, total inability

The more I study the Bible…

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The more I study the Bible…

The more I study the Bible, the more I realize how little I know about it.

The more I study the Bible, the more I realize how dangerous this book really is.

The more I study the Bible, the more I begin to see why the medieval Catholic church did not allow the average person to read and interpret it.

The more I study the Bible, the more I begin to wonder how much the Bible has truly influenced my theology, versus how much my theology has influenced my reading of the Bible.

The more I study the Bible, the less confident I am in saying that my theology is based on scriptural exegesis.

The more I study the Bible, the more confused I get by it.

Anybody out there know what I am talking about? Please tell me I am not the only one who is beginning to feel this way…

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Some History of My Bible Study

Maybe some history is in order…

When I first began this website about 15 years ago, I wanted it to be a place where I posted my sermons and Bible studies. You can still see some of those here: Old Sermons by Jeremy Myers.

Somewhere along the way, my life fell apart, and I began to question a lot of things. To help me sort things out, I decided to question all the theology I had ever been taught. Things were going well, until I started to question everything I had been taught about the Bible…. then everything fell apart.

So I put aside that project, and decided that I needed to just study Scripture and let it re-teach me all my theology…

A few years later, I thought I had finally settled somewhere new, and decided to return to my life goal of writing a commentary on every book of the Bible.

I got half-way through the book of Jonah, when I asked myself the dangerous question, “Did God really send the storm which nearly killed everybody on board the ship?”

This led me off on a wildย rabbit trail of trying to make sense of all the violence of God in the Bible in light of the death of Jesus on the cross. However,ย I eventually gave up (several times) on this as well.ย Scripture said what it said, and I could find no way around it.

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So now I am writing on something “safe”: The debate between Calvinism and Arminianism. Ha!

The truth is that I think I need to go all the way back to the beginning and start over with the Bible.

What is the Bible?

The problem appears to be that the Bible may not be what I think it is.

Or maybe I can put it this way: The Bible doesn’t do what I want it to do. The Bible does not provide what I want it to provide. The Bible I want does not seem to be the Bible I have.

This is why I have been reading a lot of books recently about Scripture. I know other scholars and theologians are asking similar questions, and I want to know what they are thinking on these issues.

Peter Enns ย and HarperOne recently sent me a review copy of his newest book called The Bible Tells Me So. I reviewed this book yesterday.

For now, I found the book incredibly encouraging and hopeful, but at the same time, not too helpful. Or maybe, I just didn’t like the answers that Peter Enns offered, and it will just take some time to come to termsย with it.

How Do you Study the Bible?

Do you struggle with Scripture? Where are you at on the whole discussion of inerrancy, inspiration, and the authority of the Bible? Have you read any good books on the topic recently which really helped sort things out for you? Please share your thoughts in the comment section below.

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, bibliology, scripture, Theology of the Bible, word of god

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