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The Crucifixion of the Warrior God (A great book with a gaping hole)

By Jeremy Myers
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The Crucifixion of the Warrior God (A great book with a gaping hole)

Crucifixion of the Warrior GodGreg Boyd has a new book out. Actually, it’s two books. The two-volume work is titled The Crucifixion of the Warrior God.. I have been waiting for these books for about four years now … His book attempts to provide an explanation for the violence of God in Scripture.

Back in 2013, I joked that Greg Boyd stole my book, but then about a year later, as I heard more about his book project, I realized that Greg Boyd and I were not quite saying the same thing after all …

But I wasn’t sure exactly what he would say in the book, since it hadn’t yet been published. But now it has been published, and … and it turns out that while I agree with him on about 90% of what he writes in the book, I disagree with him on the central point.

What is his central point? It seems to be this (SPOILER ALERT!): Greg Boyd argues that God withdraws from sin so that evil will be destroyed by evil. The violent portions of Scripture are to be understood as the times when God withdrew from sinful humanity and a sinful world.

Greg Boyd calls this the Principle of Redemptive Withdrawal. He spends most of volume 1 leading up to this point, and most of volume 2 unpacking and defending it.

As with everything Greg Boyd writes, these two books are well-written, well-argued, and thought-provoking. And regardless of what you believe about the violence of God in Scripture, these books will present you with a new way of looking at things so that you no longer have to choose between accepting that God is violent or writing off the Bible as hopelessly full of error. There are other explanations.

Greg Boyd has presented one such explanation. And there is so much to praise about these books.

That which is Praiseworthy

I love the Greg has stuck with a high view of Scripture and biblical infallibility (which is related to, but distinct from, inerrancy). In the reviews I have read so far, Greg takes a lot of flak for this stance, but I am completely on board with him. When people give up on the inspiration and infallibility of Scripture, I find that they rarely wrestle with the text. Instead, they too quickly write off the uncomfortable passages as being “hopelessly in error.” I am convinced that one reason Greg Boyd is a leading theologian is that his view of Scripture forces him to wrestle night and day with the troublesome texts. Such an approach leads to creative thinking and approaches to biblical hermeneutics, rather than simply consigning something to the trash bin of “error.”

Another major point from Greg Boyd’s excellent book is his insistence on the truth that Jesus reveals God to us… and especially through His crucifixion. Greg Boyd calls this the cruciform (or crucicentric) hermeneutic. I have referred to this elsewhere as reading the Bible with a crucivision lens. This approach to Scripture and theology is essential.

Third, I 100% agree with Greg Boyd that sin bears its own punishment, so that when sin comes to fruition in our life, it brings forth only death and destruction.

I could go on and on about the many areas of complete agreement I have with Greg Boyd and this book.

Crucifixion of the Warrior God Boyd

My One Main Sticking Point … or Maybe Two

Ultimately, while I agree with so much of Boyd’s approach to the problem of divine violence, I believe it misses the mark in two main areas.

First, I was consistently uncomfortable with Boyd’s understanding of sin. Since sin is “the problem” in Scripture, it seems he should have spent more time discussing the origin and nature of sin. For example, Boyd wrote in numerous places that Jesus bore the destructive consequences of sin “that we deserved” (cf. e.g., 768). I’m not certain, but Boyd seems to view sin as creating a sort of debit in the divine ledger books, which ultimately got charged to Jesus. I think this transactional way of viewing sin led Boyd astray.

Yes, there are destructive consequences of sin, but I am not sure that there are destructive consequences of sin “that we deserve.” That’s like saying that “Jesus came to deliver slaves from the chains that they deserve.” This means something else entirely than saying “Jesus came to deliver slaves from the chains.”

Much more needs to be said on this point, but I’m trying to keep this review relatively short.

So the second main point of disagreement I have with Boyd is in his central thesis that God withdraws from sin to let it have its way with us. I already briefly mentioned this above, but I find this view so disheartening and discouraging. I 100% agree with Boyd that all of Scripture and all of God’s character and activity in human history must be viewed through Jesus Christ, and especially Jesus Christ on the cross. But Boyd’s main thesis for God’s withdrawal comes from Jesus’ statement on the cross “My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?” (Matt 27:46-47).

And though I read and re-read Boyd’s explanation of this cry from the cross (pp. 768-780), I never really understood how Greg understood this text. Here is his basic conclusion:

Perhaps the best way of thinking about this is to distinguish between the loving unity that the three divine Persons experience, on the one hand, and the loving unity that defines God’s eternal essence, on the other. We could say that on the cross, the former was momentarily sacrificed as an expression of the latter. …

… While the Principle of Redemptive Withdrawal is focused on the abandonment Jesus experienced as he experienced the Father’s judgment on the sin of the world, it is nevertheless grounded in the truth that the cross is the definitive expression of the self-giving, mutual indwelling agape-love that defines the triune God throughout eternity (p. 778).

It sounds like Greg is saying something similar to how I understand this passage (Here is my explanation of Matthew 27:46-47), but I am not sure. I don’t know what he means by “the Father’s judgment on the sin of the world,” and I don’t find his distinction between the divine experience and the eternal essence to be helpful.

But this is the crucial (pun intended) passage for Greg’s thesis. What exactly happened on the cross when Jesus cried out “Why have you forsaken me?” is the most important text for understanding how God responds to sin. Greg seems to believe that God truly did abandon Jesus to sin, and therefore, God also abandons humans to sin when we persist in it.

violence of God Crucifixion of JesusEven if Greg is right that God abandoned Jesus to sin (which I do not agree with), wouldn’t it be better to say that God abandoned Jesus to sin so that God did not have to abandon us to sin?

In my view, it is best to say that God never abandons anyone. Not Jesus and not us. “Something else is going on” when Jesus cries out from the cross, “My God, My God, Why have you forsaken me?”

The flood event in Genesis 6-8 is one example of how Greg Boyd deals with the violent texts of Scripture. He says that since wickedness had spread over the face of the earth, all humanity had become corrupted by the sons of God (Gen 6:1-8), and so Noah was literally the last pure man on earth, and so to save, rescue, and deliver humanity from complete destruction, God had to step back from humanity and withdraw His protection so that sin would destroy humanity and a new creation could occur through Noah and his family, whom God rescued and delivered from the flood through the ark. Boyd argues that God’s only activity in the flood was to rescue and deliver Noah. The flood waters came on their own as God stepped back.

I am extremely uncomfortable with such an explanation of the flood account, or such a way of reading Scripture. My discomfort is not because Boyd’s thesis is new, but because I think it ultimately violates one of his preliminary points, that all of Scripture must be read and interpreted through Jesus Christ, and especially through Jesus Christ on the cross. I do not believe that what we see on the cross is God withdrawing from sin, but rather jumping head-first into it.

God Does Not Withdraw from Sin. He Dives Into It

Since Jesus reveals to us what God is really like, and since Jesus is the incarnation of God, then Jesus also reveals how God deals with sin.

God does not back away from sin to let it have its way. No, God, in Jesus, enters fully into our sin, not to participate in it, but to deliver us from it. He does not draw away; He dives headlong into the mess.

I do not believe that God allows sin to have its way with us, even if we continue to rebel and live in it. This is little more than another form of child abuse. A neglectful, absentee parent is barely better than an abusive one.

I do not believe that God destroys sin by letting sin destroy itself. I believe that God destroys sin through redemption. He destroys sin by tearing it apart from the inside, not violently, but through love, grace, mercy, forgiveness, and revelation. I believe God destroys sin through the revelation and illumination brought by the incarnation. He rescues, not be retreating, but by redeeming. Jesus said “I will never leave you, nor forsake you.” And neither does God. He never withdraws. Never backs away. Never leaves us alone.

Does sin hurt us? Yes. Does sin bear its own punishment? Yes. God does not punish us for sin. But the blows we feel as a result of our own sin are the glancing blows that hit His back first.

This is starting to turn into a book of my own, so I will stop here. Look, read this book. Absolutely read this book. Even though I disagree with the central point of the book, it does a fantastic job of presenting some truths that all Christians need to hear.

But if you are uncomfortable with Greg’s point that God withdraws from sin to let it have its way, that’s okay … be uncomfortable .. for there are other ways to maintain Boyd’s cruciform hermeneutic without turning God into an absentee parent when we need Him most. You can get your copy on Amazon here.

… Of course, if you want my own take on the subject of how to understand the violence of God in the Bible, my explanation is found in my recently-published book, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus.

God is Redeeming Scripture, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: cruciform, crucivision, Greg Boyd, violence of God, violence of Scripture

Jonah 2:3 – Why Jonah Feared Drowning

By Jeremy Myers
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Jonah 2:3 – Why Jonah Feared Drowning
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I’ve encountered several people recently who fear death. I don’t know if you fear death or not. Personally, I don’t.

But as we study the book of Jonah, we see that Jonah sort of wanted to die, but he didn’t want to die by drowning. We see why in this study of Jonah 2:3. We see that Jonah prefers to die by digestion that to die by drowning. Isn’t that strange?

Jonah 2:3 Jonah prays

The Text of Jonah 2:3

For you cast me into the deep, Into the heart of the seas, And the floods surrounded me; All Your billows and Your waves passed over me.

In this discussion of Jonah 2:3 we look at:

  • Why Jonah says God threw him into the sea when it was the sailors
  • The description of the sea and what it means for Jonah
  • Why Jonah prefers to die by digestion than to die by drowning

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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: death, forgiveness, Jonah 2:3, love of God, One Verse Podcast, suicide

My book won a gold medal!

By Jeremy Myers
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My book won a gold medal!

Well this is fun… The book I published last year, The Atonement of God, won a gold medal from the eLit awards in the “Religion” category.

If you haven’t read it yet, you really should. The first 70 pages are slightly more “technical,” so if the book is rough going at first, don’t let that put you off. The rest of the book is intensely practical. In it, I give you 10 areas of your life and theology that get turned upside down with a proper understanding of the crucifixion of Jesus.

Atonement of God eBook

To celebrate the gold medal, I have temporarily lowered the eBook price of The Atonement of God on Amazon to $2.99 (It’s only $0.99 if you previously purchased the paperback). Go here to buy it today.

If you are a pastor or lead a Bible study, the 10 chapters in Part 2 of the book would make a great sermon series or Bible study. If you just like to read for personal growth and development, this book will help you understand God, Scripture, and yourself in new ways as well.

Here are some reviews of the book that have been left on Amazon:

Most Christian’s are usually taught that God is constantly disappointed and disapproving of us and we have to fear him. This book teaches instead that God loves us. It isn’t a book that teaches God loves us unconditionaly, so just do whatever you want. It’s a lot more complicated than that, but it does teach that God has always loved us and we in turn must love, forgive and care for others. It’s a great book, and it will transform your view of God.
–imani42

OUTSTANDING BOOK! Thank you for helping me understand “Crucivision” and the “Non-Violent Atonement”. Together, they help it all make sense and fit so well into my personal thinking about God. I am encouraged to be truly free to love and forgive, because God has always loved and forgiven without condition, because Christ exemplified this grace on the Cross, and because the Holy Spirit is in the midst of all life, continuing to show the way through people like you.
–Samuel R. Mayer

If you have the same resolve as Paul, to know nothing but Jesus and Him crucified (2 Cor 2:2), then this book is for you. I read it the first time from start to finish on Father’s Day… no coincidence. This book revealed Father God’s true character; not as an angry wrathful God, but as a kind loving merciful Father to us. Share in Jeremy’s revelation concerning Jesus’ crucifixion, and how this “vision” of the crucifixion (hence “crucivision”) will make you fall in love with Jesus all over again, in a new and deeper way than you could imagine. Buy a copy for a friend–you won’t want to give up your copy because you will want to read it again and again until the Holy Spirit makes Jeremy’s revelation YOUR revelation.
–Amy

I’ve always been a curious mind and searcher, and many of the mainstream theology answers felt a little out of place. Now I know why I was dissatisfied with the explanations, not because they were wrong, but rather they were incomplete. Reading Jeremy’s book has shed a much needed light as it explores the character of God, who He is and how He acts towards us humans. It is the same, but different in a very comforting way. It presents God as ever loving and freely forgiving, needing no payment for sin, and explains the Non-Violent view of the redemption. Beware.. it might change your life!
–ThePilgrimm

This is a great read to say the least. The Atonement of God is one book I couldn’t put down. Ive been a follower of Christ for decades, reading this book has led me to be very reflective of what I have been taught about the atonement, Jeremy’s careful and insightful teaching from Gods word has caused a revolution in my thinking. Importantly, it showed me just how much of my understanding had been heavily influenced by past incorrect teaching without realizing it . This book has blown away my thinking that God is both angry and filled with wrath towards us and sin. Jeremy’s call for us to Interpreting Gods word through the lens of Christ is a startling experience and one we should all embrace. Thank you again for such a great read.
–Careful

This book gives another view of the doctrines we have been taught all of our lives. And this actually makes more sense than what we have heard. I myself have had some of these thoughts but couldn’t quite make the sense of it all by myself. J.D. Myers helped me answer some questions and settle some confusion for my doctrinal views. This is truly a refreshing read. Jesus really is the demonstration of who God is and God is much easier to understand than being so mean and vindictive in the Old Testament. The tension between the wrath of God and His justice and the love of God are eased when reading this understanding of the atonement. Read with an open mind and enjoy!
–Clare N. Brownlee

You can read the other review, learn more about the book, and even read a free sample of the book by visiting it’s product page on Amazon. And take advantage of the temporary price drop as we celebrate the gold medal award. (And if you don’t have a Kindle, that’s no problem … Download the free Kindle Reader app here for your computer, tablet, or smartphone.)

God is Redeeming Books Bible & Theology Topics: atonement, atonement of God, Books by Jeremy Myers, Books I'm Writing, christus victor, non-violent atonement, violence of God, violence of Scripture

Jonah 2:2 – Jonah Went to Hell

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Jonah 2:2 – Jonah Went to Hell
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Jonah 2:2When you think of hell, what is it you think of? A place of burning? Fire? Demons gleefully torturing people as they scream in terror? If you are like most people, that is likely what the word “hell” brings to mind.

But did you know that such a depiction of hell does not come from the Bible at all? It comes from ancient pagan beliefs; not from the Bible.

When the Bible talks about hell, or hades, or sheol, a completely different picture emerges. This is what we talk about in this podcast episode on Jonah 2:2, where Jonah goes to hell.

The Text of Jonah 2:2

Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the fish’s belly.

In this discussion of Jonah 2:2 we look at:

  • Why the first half of verse 2 is not officially the prayer of Jonah.
  • The significance of Jonah “crying out to Yahweh”
  • What Jonah means when he says he went to hell
  • A brief discussion of hell in the Bible

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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: fire, gehenna, hell, Jonah 2:2, One Verse Podcast, sheol, violence of God

A Theory of Everything (A summary of René Girard’s Mimetic Theory)

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A Theory of Everything (A summary of René Girard’s Mimetic Theory)
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My two recent books have referenced René Girard’s Mimetic theory. If you want to learn more about this theory, and why it is so important for understanding life, Scripture, and ourselves, below is a video I recorded about all of this last year.

The video is an hour long, so grab a drink and a bowl of popcorn.

And yes, my video recording and editing ability is almost Hollywood quality. But at least you can see what I look like and where I do all my writing and podcast recording…

I mention some of the information from this video in the following two books:

  • Nothing but the Blood of Jesus
  • The Atonement of God

Also, if you listen to my One Verse Podcast, you might have noticed that some of these themes came up as I worked through Genesis 2-4.

And if you want to read more about this theory, I recommend you start with the following:

  • Saved from Sacrifice by S. Mark Heim
  • Violence Unveiled by Gil Bailie
  • Reading the Bible with Rene Girard, edited by Michael Hardin

Questions? Comments? Let me know!

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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Life, Redeeming Scripture, Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: mimesis, mimetic theory, Rene Girard

Jonah 2:1 – Jonah’s Self-Righteous Prayer

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Jonah 2:1 – Jonah’s Self-Righteous Prayer
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In my own prayer life, I find it helpful to pray the prayers of Scripture. I sometimes pray the prayer of Daniel in in Daniel 9. Or the prayer of Jesus in Matthew 6. Or any of the numerous prayers of Paul found throughout his letters, such as the one at the end of Ephesians 3. I especially find it helpful to pray the Psalms. There is a Psalm for every emotion.

If you do something like this, the one prayer in the Bible I encourage to never pray is the prayer of Jonah in Jonah 2. It may be the worst prayer in the Bible.

That is what we are going to begin seeing today as we look at Jonah 2:1.

Jonah 2:1 prayer of Jonah

The Text of Jonah 2:1

Then Jonah prayed to the Lord his God from the fish’s belly.

In this discussion of Jonah 2:1 we look at:

  • Why Jonah’s prayer is not a model prayer
  • How to know that Jonah’s prayer is self-righteous and self-centered

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God is Redeeming God, Redeeming Scripture Bible & Theology Topics: Daniel 9, how to pray, Jonah 2:1, One Verse Podcast, prayer

Here is how you can start reading my new book for free

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Here is how you can start reading my new book for free

My new book is out, and I want as many people to read it as possible, which means I want to make it as easy as possible for you to read.

So here is what I am going to do … First, I am going to include the first chapter of the book below. And then I will share with you two steps you can follow on how to start reading the rest of the book for free. This will allow you to know whether or not you want to buy the book. I’m allowing you to “Try before you buy!”

Start Reading my New book for Free

Nothing but the blood of Jesus ebookI intentionally created a way for you to start reading Nothing but the Blood of Jesus for free. Here are the steps.

1. Have a way to Read Kindle books from Amazon
If you have a Kindle eReader, then you’re already set. Move to step 2 below.

If you don’t have a Kindle eReader, that’s no problem. Just download the (#AmazonAdLink) absolutely free Kindle Reading App from Amazon. You can put it on almost any device, including a computer, smartphone, or tablet. There’s no charge for it!

Once you’ve done this, Step 1 is done!

2. Get a 30-Day Free Trial to Kindle Unlimited on Amazon

Kindle Unlimited allows you read millions of books on Amazon for only $9.99 a month. But I have a way for you to get a free 30-day trial. (#AmazonAdLink) Just go here to sign up for your 30-day free trial of Kindle Unlimited.

Once you’ve done this, Step 2 is done!

3. Go download my new book and start reading

I put my book on Kindle Unlimited for the next couple months, so after you join Kindle Unlimited, you can start reading my book for free. (#AmazonAdLink) Go get it here and start reading today.

Note: This is just to try out the book for free

My book will not be on Kindle Unlimited forever, so if you start reading the book and really like it, you might want to purchase the Kindle version for yourself (it’s only $8.99 right now), since you already have the free Kindle Reading App.

If you prefer paperback books like I do, you can get in on Amazon as well for less than $15 (And if you want the paperback, you can (#AmazonAdLink) get free shipping by joining Amazon Prime for free for 30 days!)

No matter which option you choose, if you like the book, I would greatly appreciate it if you would buy a copy, since that helps encourage me and financially support my writing and online teaching ministry.

As you read, let me know what questions you have…

Now, here is the first chapter to get you started…

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How Precious is the Flow?

Have you ever stopped to listen to what we Christians say and sing about the blood of Jesus?

Try to imagine what you would think about a group of people who regularly sang songs about founts of blood, washing in blood, and needing blood to be made whole? Imagine you are walking through a forest on a dark night and as you stumbled along, off in the distance you saw the light of a fire with people dancing around it. As you drew closer, you heard them singing the following song:

What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but this bloody sacrifice.
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but this bloody sacrifice.

O precious is the flow that makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know; nothing but this bloody sacrifice.

I imagine that if you heard people singing this in the woods on a dark night, you would turn around and head the other direction. What if, however, you kept going, and as you drew closer, the song changed to this one:

Have you been to the altar for the cleansing power?
Are you washed in the blood of this man?
Are you fully trusting in his grace this hour?
Are you washed in the blood of this man?

Are you washed in the blood,
In the soul cleansing blood of this man?
Are your garments spotless? Are they white as snow?
Are you washed in the blood of this man?

As your skin crawled with the implications of that song, the people then began to sing about plunging one another beneath a fountain of blood.

There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from our victim’s veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.

I think that instead of happily join this group of blood-crazed murderers, you would likely get out of the woods as fast as possible and then call the local police to report what you had heard. I can see the newspaper headline now: “Lone Hiker Discovers Ghastly Cult Bathing in the Blood of a Human Sacrifice.” When read outside of their Christian context, that is indeed what these songs bring to mind, is it not? These sorts of songs sound more like a gruesome and gory scene from a Freddy Krueger movie than from something to be joyfully celebrated. Yet when the words of the three songs above are sung as originally written so that they talk about the blood of Jesus Christ as the Lamb of God, we Christians happily sing them with gusto, and think that nothing is amiss.

Why is that?

ARGUING WITH MYSELF
If you have been brought up in the church as I have, you may not have ever stopped to consider what the songs we sing sound like to an outside observer. Just listen to yourself sing sometimes, especially around Easter, and ask yourself what the “uninitiated” might be hearing. I myself have done this, and here is how the conversation went in my head:

Me: What is this about washing in the blood of the Lamb? This sounds like some sort of ancient pagan ritual where the worshippers splashed blood on themselves as they went into the temple to worship their pagan god. Is this really what God wants from us? To bathe in the blood of Jesus. To swim in rivers of blood? To dance around fountains of blood? What’s the deal with all this blood?
Myself: Don’t take it all so literally! It’s only symbolic. It’s figurative. Nobody actually bathes in blood or dances in fountains of blood.
Me: I know that! But then why sing about it? Symbolic language must symbolize something, right? Figurative language points to some figure. So what is it? What does the blood of Jesus symbolize? And before you answer too quickly, if it’s only symbolic, are you saying that the death of Jesus was only symbolic? That He only died a figurative death?
Myself: Of course not. That would be heresy. Jesus died a real death in a real body. He shed literal blood. The symbolic part of those songs is in the washing and the bathing. We don’t literally wash and bathe in the blood of Jesus. We just symbolically imagine that His blood is cleansing and washing us from our sin.
Me: Okay … so we’re symbolically washing in literal blood? That still makes no sense to me.
Myself: Sigh. This is why I never debate theology with people who didn’t go to Seminary.
Me: What? You’re me. I’m you. We went to Seminary together.
Myself: Oh, right. Well, that must be why your theology is so messed up. What did they teach you at Seminary, anyway?

The conversation went on like this for quite some time—several decades, to be honest. During that time, Me, Myself, and I also read scores of books on the death of Jesus and engaged in numerous hours of conversation with other people about this subject. And do you know what I found? The books and the people that were most helpful and illuminating were those who were outside observers (even critics) of Christianity. They responded in horror to the Christian infatuation with the blood of Jesus. They view our songs and sermons about His blood in a way that is similar to how you or I might view a cultish sacrificial ritual deep in the woods on a dark night. It seems excessively gruesome and quite alarming to hear people celebrate the bloodletting of someone else.

To such critics, no answer we give, no verse we quote, no explanation we provide can ever do away with the fact that Christianity seems to worship a bloodthirsty deity who required the death of others in order to forgive sins and cleanse people of their iniquity. They complain that God is a cosmic child abuser who tortured His own Son in a twisted display of justice. They criticize God as being less loving and forgiving than regular humans, who can forgive others without the need for death and bloodshed. They point out that the Bible contains more commands for blood sacrifice and warfare against the enemies of God than any other religious book in history, including the Muslim Qur’an. They charge that no matter how much we claim that our God is loving and kind, He is really a God of bloody sacrifice, warfare, violence, and death.

CRITICIZING CHRISTIANS
I imagine you have heard some of the criticisms mentioned before. Most Christians have. And when confronted with these sorts of criticisms, we Christians typically make the situation worse by quoting Scripture. Forgetting that none of these critics consider Scripture to be authoritative, we sometimes think that a few Bible verses will solve the debate. We point out that since all have sinned and the wages of sin is death, everyone must die (Rom 3:23; 6:23). But God loves us, we say, and so He decided to pay the penalty for our sin Himself, which He did by sending Jesus, His own Son, to die in our place on the cross (John 3:16; Rom 6:10; 2 Cor 5:21; 1 Pet 3:18). After all, without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins (Heb 9:22). We say that someone must die for the sins of the world, and it was either us or God. Since God loves us, He took the bullet on our behalf and sent Jesus to die on the cross for the sins of the whole world.

When the non-Christian response to our “biblical answer” is less receptive than we would like, we shrug our shoulders and quote another verse. We say, “The message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing” (1 Cor 1:18), and then head off to our Bible studies and Sunday services where we continue to talk and sing about the blood of Jesus while avoiding or ignoring the hard questions that the watching world is asking.

But if we stick around, the follow-up questions to our “biblical answer” get even harder to explain. For example, if we say that the death of Jesus was necessary to forgive sins, people want to know why Jesus had to die in such a gruesome and bloody way. If we say that the wages of sin is death and so God needed death as payment for sin, people want to know why God set it up this way in the first place (Isn’t He God? Can’t He do what He wants?) and even then, what would have been wrong with just letting Jesus die from old age? Did Jesus really need to get tortured to a bloody death on the cross? And if we argue that God needed the blood of an innocent victim in order to remove the stain of sin from the world, the critic wants to know how killing an innocent victim is not a sin itself, and how the blood of such a victim can actually do anything for the sin of all people throughout all time. And these questions keep coming, harder and harder at every turn.

DON’T ASK HOW IT WORKS?
Due to the number of difficult questions surrounding the death of Jesus and His blood shed for us, it might simply be best to accept that the death of Jesus did something to help restore our relationship with God, even if we cannot understand what it was. For many, rather than agonize over seemingly unanswerable questions, it is preferable to recognize that since we are not God and cannot really understand the nature or the depth of our sin or the character and breadth of His righteousness, we will never be able to understand exactly what Jesus did on the cross or how His death accomplished it. In other words, it is enough, for many, to simply know that Jesus accomplished something, even if we cannot know what it was or how He did it. If this seems like a cop-out, do not worry; this is the approach that C. S. Lewis argued for in his book, Mere Christianity:

The central Christian belief is that Christ’s death has somehow put us right with God and given us a fresh start. Theories as to how it did this are another matter. A good many different theories have been held as to how it works …

Theories about Christ’s death are not Christianity: they are explanations about how it works. Christians would not all agree as to how important these theories are …

But I think they will all agree that the thing itself is infinitely more important than any explanations that theologians have produced. I think they would probably admit that no explanation will ever be quite adequate to the reality. But as I said in the preface to this book, I am only a layman, and at this point we are getting into deep water. I can only tell you, for what it is worth, how I, personally, look at the matter. On my view the theories are not themselves the thing you are asked to accept …

We believe that the death of Christ is just that point in history at which something absolutely unimaginable from outside shows through into our own world. And if we cannot picture even the atoms of which our own world is built, of course we are not going to be able to picture this. Indeed, if we found that we could fully understand it, that very fact would show it was not what it professes to be—the inconceivable, the uncreated, the thing from beyond nature, striking down into nature like lightning. You may ask what good it will be to us if we do not understand it. But that is easily answered. A man can eat his dinner without understanding exactly how food nourishes him. A man can accept what Christ has done without knowing how it works: indeed, he certainly would not know how it works until he has accepted it. We are told that Christ was killed for us, that His death has washed out our sins, and that by dying He disabled death itself. That is the formula. That is Christianity. That is what has to be believed. Any theories we build up as to how Christ’s death did all this are, in my view, quite secondary: mere plans or diagrams to be left alone if they do not help us, and, even if they do help us, not to be confused with the thing itself.

If you are one who rarely asks “Why?” or “How?” something works, then the answer of C. S. Lewis regarding the death of Jesus might be enough for you. Yet as much as I love and admire C. S. Lewis (he is my favorite author), his answer is not enough for me. Prior to attending Bible College and Seminary my educational background was in engineering. I chose that field because my entire life has been consumed with pursuing answers to the question “How?” How does this work? How can it be improved? How can it be explained? How can it be fixed? While numerous people like C. S. Lewis are content with simply knowing that something works, I am never content unless I know how.

Nor is the answer of C. S. Lewis enough for the average critic of Christianity. Critics of Christianity will not accept Lewis’ logic on the death of Jesus. They will not simply jump with blind faith into worshiping a deity who, to them, appears to be bloodthirsty, vindictive, and cruel. They will not simply accept and follow Jesus because Lewis says we don’t need to know why Jesus died or how His blood works to save us from our sin. For many, including myself, the how is the critical question. If the how is not answered, then we cannot know why Jesus died, and therefore, what God is like. And if we cannot know what God is like, then we cannot know whether or not He is worthy of our worship.

For if the Christian God truly is bloodthirsty, vindictive, and cruel, it is more of an act of pure worship to reject such a God than it is to worship Him in blind faith. Why? Because people become like the God they worship. If God is bloodthirsty and vindictive, and if God cannot love and forgive unless He receives payment with blood, then this is also how His followers will live and act toward others. Rather than live in love and forgiveness toward others, we will cry out for the death of our enemies, and will demand that “justice” be obtained through the price of bloody vengeance upon all who oppose us. And sadly, this is exactly how some Christians behave, as they pray for bombs to fall on Muslims and for Gays to go to hell.

The watching world sees this behavior by Christians, and understands that such behavior is nothing more than a logical extension of our theological belief in a God who demands blood payment for the forgiveness of sins. But we Christians don’t know where to turn. Though we recognize, and even condemn, the bad behavior of some groups within Christianity, and though we see how certain passages from a bloody Bible and certain ideas from traditional theology can lead these Christians to think that calling for the death of their enemies in truly within God’s will, few Christians have actually found a way out of the dilemma posed by the blood of Jesus.

We cannot, after all, deny the righteous justice of God. Nor can we deny the reality of human sin. And we definitely cannot deny that Jesus bled and died. But as long as we fail to adequately explain how all of these truths fit together, the Gospel message will never be good news to a dying world. Christianity needs better answers to the questions the world is asking, and this failure to explain how the blood of Jesus saves us from our sin is one of the main reasons so many people have abandoned Christianity over the last few decades.

A BETTER ANSWER
My hope is that the book you now hold in your hands provides a better answer. This book shows how God can be both just and the justifier of those who believe. It shows how sin truly is the problem of the world, and how the death of Jesus—even the violent and bloody death of Jesus on the cross—provides the solution and the answer for sin that the world is looking for. This book also shows how the non-Christian rejection of a bloody and violent deity is right in line with what Jesus revealed about God. In other words, when the world rejects a bloodthirsty god as being unworthy of our worship, they are not following Satan into error and evil, but are instead following Jesus into what He revealed to us about God. Much to our shock and chagrin, the non-Christian who follows his or her own heart into love for all people might be doing a better job worshipping the God revealed in Jesus Christ than the Christian who quotes Scripture and prays to God for the death of our enemies.

I understand that what I have just written might be a shocking statement to some. But it is not a statement I make lightly. It comes as the result of decades of research, study, reading, writing, and prayerful consideration of the biblical text. It also comes more recently from spending time outside the institutional church with so-called “non-Christians.”

When I first read Mere Christianity about thirty years ago, while I fully agreed that how the death of Jesus works was not nearly as important as the truth that it works, I intended to do my best in learning how. This is, after all, how my mind is wired. So I embarked on my investigation. I read and studied everything I could about the death of Jesus, the atonement, and the gospel. I studied Scripture constantly. I attended Bible College and Seminary. I pastored churches, preached sermons, taught Bible studies, and wrote books. I engaged in conversations about these topics with numerous different people from dozens of different backgrounds, beliefs, and perspectives.

Through it all, I followed a trail of breadcrumbs left by Scripture and the illuminating Holy Spirit so that every few months, I uncovered another piece of the theological puzzle. Many of these pieces were shocking or surprising, challenging everything I thought I knew. Some of the truths I learned were utterly inspiring, opening up whole new vistas of theological research and inquiry, and helping me see God in a whole new light. In the process of digging through the pages of Scripture for an understanding of how the death of Jesus saves the world from sin, I discovered a God I never knew existed, as well as some truths about Scripture, sin, and humanity that I never would have found in any other way. The quest for how led to some surprising discoveries about the who, the what, and the why.
If you are like me and want to know the how of things, the best approach would be to retrace with me the slow and steady slog through theological research of the last thirty years. But that would take too long and be too boring. It would read like the snippet of conversation I had with myself earlier in this chapter. Besides, I spent many of those years in theological missteps, exegetical rabbit trails, and, like Winnie the Pooh, retracing my own steps around and around in the snowy woods searching for a mythical beast of my own imagination.

So rather than take you on that long and circuitous journey, let me instead give you some of the central signposts which will point you in the right direction. This book contains those signposts. The ideas of this book are not everything I learned or discovered in the past thirty years of research, but they do explain where I am at now and what I have discovered. This book contains my best explanation so far for how the death of Jesus saves the world from sin.

And just as a preview, do you know what I have discovered so far? I have discovered that the blood of Jesus is more precious than I ever imagined. I have discovered that the blood of Jesus reveals certain truths to humanity that could never have been revealed to us in any other way. I have discovered that there is very good reason for the Bible to emphasize blood so much, that there is good reason for the New Testament writers to focus our attention on His blood shed for us. I have discovered that it was not just Jesus’ death, and not just Jesus’ blood, but that it was necessary for His blood to be shed violently.

I have discovered some truths that nothing but the blood of Jesus could have revealed to us. I have discovered how the blood of Jesus rescues and delivers us from sin like nothing else ever could. Once we understand how the blood of Jesus rescues the world from sin, we see why it was necessary for Jesus to suffer and die on the cross as He did, and how the entire bloody spectacle of the cross reveals a God who is more deeply in love with us than we ever before imagined. In the end, we see that there truly is something special about the blood of Jesus. The blood of Jesus truly does lead us to worship God and follow Him in love and forgiveness for the world.

If you join me in this journey by reading this book, you will discover the meaning of five words. These five words are Sin, Law, Sacrifice, Scapegoat, and Blood. If you understand these five terms, you will better understand the work of Jesus on the cross and how His death rescues us from sin. But as indicated above, these five words are not the only things I have discovered over the last several decades of research. As you learn about these five words, there are many related words that you might have questions about as well. Words such as salvation, wrath, forgiveness, justice, Kingdom of God, grace, world, satan, and gospel are also within the sphere of terms one might need to learn in the quest for understanding the crucifixion of Jesus. If you would like to learn more about these other words, all of them are found in my online theology course, The Gospel Dictionary, from which the ideas for this book were pulled. While this book only looks at five words, The Gospel Dictionary course looks at 52 key words of the gospel, all of which further support the themes of this present volume and provide greater understanding about what God has done for us in Jesus Christ and how we are to live in response. Understanding these 52 key words of the Gospel truly help make the Gospel “good news” again.

So are you ready to learn how the death of Jesus rescues the world from sin? If so, the journey begins with a look at everybody’s favorite subject: sin. But don’t skip the chapter because you think you already know everything about sin (maybe from personal experience). When it comes to sin, the phrase made famous by Inigo Montoya in The Princess Bride is quite appropriate: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

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I have a new online course available that goes along with my new book.

I have a new online discipleship course that goes along with my new book. The new book is titled (#AmazonAdLink) Nothing but the Blood of Jesus, and the course is The Gospel Dictionary.

The Gospel Dictionary Course

The book is based on the course, but the course is about 10x longer than the book…

The book looks at five key words from the Bible, sin, law, sacrifice, scapegoating, and blood, to show how the sacrifice of Jesus saves us from our sin. After defining each of the five words, I then look at various passages from Scripture that can now be better understood once we have properly defined the words. In the book, I looked at 56 passages that were related to these 5 words. The book also ended up being 93,000 words.

The only reason I am sharing this is because the new course doesn’t just look at five words … it looks at 52. And just as with the book, every entry looks at several texts from the Bible to help you better understand them.

So just think about this … My book, Nothing but the Blood of Jesus, looked at 5 words, and 56 texts (averaging 11 each). It took me 93,000 words.

The Gospel DictionaryMy course looks at 52 words, with each entry looking at various texts from the Bible. This is going to be a MASSIVE course. Yes, some of the entries are much shorter than what I had in the book, but still, this is going HUGE.

Right now, there are about 10 lessons up and ready to go. My goal is to add a few more each month as I get them written and recorded. It will probably take me at least the rest of the year to finish it. But you can begin taking it right now.

Now, the price for the course is $299, which is actually a screaming deal, considering how much information is in the course, but if you join my “Hope” or “Love” discipleship group, then you can take the course (and all my other courses) at no additional cost. Just go here to learn more about the various discipleship levels.

Of course (pun intended!), if you are not sure about taking the course, I recommend you get a taste for what is in it by reading my new book. If you like what is in the book and how I explain the five words and the various Scripture texts, then you will LOVE learning about the 52 words in the course.

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Thank you! My new book is the #1 Hot New Release in “Theology – Soteriology” on Amazon

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Thank you! My new book is the #1 Hot New Release in “Theology – Soteriology” on Amazon

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I am even beating Greg Boyd’s new book, The Crucifixion of the Warrior God. (But this is because his eBook is SO expensive. It’s only $2 less than the paperback, and he is killing me in paperback sales) … And he claims to be non-violent… Ha!

Anyway, if you have bought the book this week, thank you very much! If you haven’t bought it yet … now is a good time. It will provide numerous insights and reflections for the Easter weekend.

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Jonah 1:17 – Jonah, Jesus, and Sacrifice

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Jonah 1:17 – Jonah, Jesus, and Sacrifice
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Jonah 1:17It’s Easter week, and it just so happens that we are looking at Jonah 1:17 today, in which we read that Jonah spent three days in the belly of a fish. In Matthew 12:40, Jesus uses this event to talk about how He will spend three days in the grave.

The Text of Jonah 1:17

Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

In this discussion of Jonah 1:17 we look at:

  • Whether or not the great fish was a whale
  • Whether the fish was deliverance or discipline
  • The parallels between Matthew 12:40 and Jonah 1:17
  • Whether or not God wants sacrifices

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