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Gauging Church Efficiency

By Jeremy Myers
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Gauging Church Efficiency

In an era where people are cutting budgets and becoming energy efficient, the church must do the same. I’m not talking about the electric bill and “going green.” One area of waste, fraud, and abuse within the church is the money and time that people give to church programs. Are we truly getting a significant return on our vastย expendituresย in these areas?

Studies show that on average, a church has three conversions per year for every 100 people who attend. These are actual conversions, not just people transferring from one church to another. Based on this statistic, let’s look at how much money and time churches spend on average to gain these three conversions.

Money
It is estimated that the cost of running a church is about $1700 each year for each regular attendee. This number is within ballpark range for small churches and mega churches. A church of 50, with a building and one pastor, costs about $85,000 per year to operate. A mega-church, like Rick Warrenโ€™s Saddleback Community Church, costs $34 million for 20,000 in weekend attendance. Do the math to see if these numbers hold basically true for your church. You will probably be “within the ballpark.”

So if the average church gets three conversions for every 100 people, and the average church expense for 100 people is about $170,000, then the average expense per conversion is over $50,000.

Yes, yes, I know. A lot more is going on in church than just evangelism, and a lot of the money is spent on discipling those who believe. But still, one of the goals of discipleship should be evangelism. If people are being adequately trained, then the money spent on their training should result in a greater number of conversions. But it is not.

So the question becomes: Would you support a non-profit organization which had the stated goal of โ€œevangelizing the lostโ€ but spent over $50,000 for each convert? I donโ€™t know about you, but I would have difficulty supporting such a ministry, especially if they had been doing this for 2000 years and their effectiveness became worse and worse over time.

Speaking of time, let’s look at an asset of the church even more valuable than money.

Time
Aside from the money spent on church, consider the cost in time. Though many spend only an hour or so in church activates per week, others spend much more. Some, such as the staff, devote 60 hours or more each week on church activities. Of course, this is their job. On average, a church member spends about three hours per week on church activities. This does not count the time they spend getting ready for church, driving to church, and going out for lunch after church. Nor does it include personal Bible study or prayer time during the week. This is time they actually spend in the church building or in a designated church program.

Three hours per week isnโ€™t a whole lot when you realize that the average person watches that much television every single night of the week. But still, it appears that even these few hours spent on โ€œchurchโ€ accomplishes very little.

Three hours per person per week results in about 150 hours per year. So 100 people spend about 15,000 hours per year on “church activities.” Taking the average conversion rate of three conversions per 100 people, about 5000 hours go into each conversion. When you realize that a full-time job (40-hours per week) fills 2000 hours per year, each conversion takes two-and-a-half years of work-hours.

So again I ask, if you were supporting a missionary who had one conversion every two-and-a-half years, would you continue to support that missionary?

Yes, again, I know that some missionaries labor for 40 years without seeing a single missionary. But these stories are often followed up with the fact that when a new missionary arrived on the scene, they see hundreds or thousands of conversions in the first few years of work, not because they figured something out that their predecessor did not, but because the faithful missionary of 40 years had prepared the soil, planted the seed, and watered the ground. The new missionaries on the scene just happen to be there for the harvest. So statistically, we do expect the average conversion rate for missionaries to be much less than one conversion every two-and-a-halfย years.

Is this a good use of time and money?
Is all of this time and money really a good investment? Possibly. No price is too high for the single soul, and a lot more goes on in the typical church than just seeking conversions. For that $1700 and 150 hours per person, the people who attend also get friends, fellowship, encouragement, support, guidance, and spiritual education. So maybe it is all worth it.

But what if there were a more efficient way of providing all of this, while at the same time, seeing more people become followers of Jesus? In the coming weeks, I will propose a few.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Books by Jeremy Myers, Close Your Church for Good, Discipleship, Theology of the Church

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Jesus says Weโ€™re all Doomed

By Jeremy Myers
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Jesus says Weโ€™re all Doomed

In my Scripture reading group yesterday, we discussed Matthew 5:17-20 which concludes with Jesus saying that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and the Pharisees, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven. As always with this group, I tried to say as little as possible.

After reading the four verses through, we went back and started reading and discussing the verses one at a time. The first three verses generated lots of discussion about the Jewish law and the results of keeping or breaking it. But the final verse threw the group into an animated discussion.

Eventually, one of the guys said, โ€œIf I understand Jesus right, weโ€™re all doomed.โ€ There was further debate about this, but eventually, the group consensus was that Jesus was not painting a rosy picture. If Jesus was right, and if we understand what he is saying, everybody is doomed.

One person asked how I understand these words of Jesus. After affirming their conclusion, I told them that others had also struggled with the truth that nobody can keep the entire law, and so either we are all doomed, or God must have made another way. I then took them over to Romans 3 where Paul talks about this. It was exciting to see the group grasp the idea that they were faced with two options: either try to keep the whole law (which was impossible) or accept justification by faith in Jesus.

We then went back to Matthew 5 and I introduced the idea that most likely, Jesus wasnโ€™t talking about eternal life anyway. The โ€œkingdom of heavenโ€ is not the same thing as getting eternal life, being justified, or going to heaven when you die. Instead, it probably refers to the rule or reign of heaven on earth, here and now, in the life, and in the new heavens and new earth when they come. So the kingdom of heaven is not some pie-in-the-sky, go-to-heaven-when-you-die dream of an afterlife. The kingdom of heaven can be a living reality now for people who live according to the way that Jesus outlines in his sermon. The early church seemed to have understood it this way, as in Acts 1-4, where we see them live according to many of these kingdom principles. This idea really got the group excited, and we spent the next half hour or so dreaming and discussing what this might look like in our own lives and communities.

The discussion reiterated to me once again that Jesus, as difficult as it sometimes is to understand Him, still inspires the thoughts and imaginations of all people who take him seriously.

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Bible Study, Discipleship, Theology of Salvation

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Top Ten Albany Church Websites

By Jeremy Myers
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Top Ten Albany Church Websites

I recently reviewed 25 Albany Church websites, and wrote an article about it at Examiner.com. One of the more surprising things I discovered (or maybe it’s not so surprising)ย is that while many of the churches did a good job talking about their services times, children’s programs, and upcoming events, few wrote much about opportunities for taking care of the poor, feeding the hungry, helping orphans and widows, or many of the other missional elements of being the church.

Today, websites are the primary way people get first impressions about your church. Before the Internet, first impressions were given when people drove into the parking lot. Now, they get a first impression by checking out your website. If you don’t even have a website, what does that tell the potential visitor about your church? It tells them nothing, because they can’t even find you!

If you want to see how I ranked these 25 churches, head on over to the Examiner.com article, click on some of the links, and see if you agree with me. If you want me to rate your church website, just put a link in the comment section over there.

For the comment section here, does your church have a website? Why or why not? Do you think house churches should have websites? Why or why not?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, Theology of the Church

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Wisconsin Woman Held as Sex Slave in Brooklyn

By Jeremy Myers
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Wisconsin Woman Held as Sex Slave in Brooklyn

A 27-year old Wisconsin woman was rescued in Brooklyn yesterday, after being held for eight days as a sex slave. She initially responded to a Craigslist advertisement from a man who was seeking someone to cook and clean for him in exchange for free rent.

She had wanted to move to New York, but couldn’t afford the costs. When she found the advertisement on Craigslist, it sounded like a good opportunity. The man, John Hopkins, age 45, allegedly paid for her plane ticket, and when she arrived at the airport, he picked her up and took her to his apartment, where he handcuffed her to a radiator, and over the next eight days, repeatedly beat and raped her.

Apparently, she was allowed to leave the apartment one time, when she was able to call her mother, before returning to the apartment. There is no explanation yet for why she returned to the apartment, or why she never called 911.

The saddest part of this story for me is the comments that people are making about it. Here is one website that reported this story: New York CBS Local News. If you go there, scroll through some of the comments. People are saying she deserved it for being so dumb to respond to such a Craigslist ad, that she must have liked it because after being let go she returned to the apartment, or that she must be ugly to have responded to such an ad, etc., etc., etc.

As I have been learning more and more about sex slavery, it has increasingly appalled me that far too often, the women are the ones who get most of the blame, rather than the ones who capture and rape them. People say, “If she hadn’t run away from home this wouldn’t have happened” or “If she hadn’t dressed like that and been in that neighborhood” or “He was probably her boyfriend, but now that they broke up, she is accusing him of rape.”

I say, “Stop making excuses for the Johns!” I don’t care what she says, where she was, what she was wearing, or if he really was her boyfriend. Nobody has the right to tie up a girl, beat her, and then rape her. Nobody.

Sex slavery really is happening in our country, and someone needs to stand up for these girls. If our entire society is defending the men who beat and rape them, we need some voices to stand up for the girls, who are the true victims.

To learn more about Human Trafficking and sex slavery, check out some of these posts:

Human Trafficking Posts

  1. Sex Slaves
  2. Would You Fight Slavery?
  3. Rescue Russian Sex Slaves
  4. Rescue Russian Girls from Sex Slavery
  5. Stop Her Nightmare
  6. Another Girl Rescued Today
  7. Girls for Sale
  8. Goal Reached!
  9. I Want to be a Prostitute
  10. $52,000 raised!
  11. 31 Million Sex Slaves
  12. Renting Lacy
  13. More Than Rice
  14. Human Trafficking Ring Busted
  15. The Other Big Game
  16. Sex Slavery, Planned Parenthood, and Your Tax Dollars
  17. How to Minister to Prostitutes
  18. Wisconsin Woman Held as Sex Slave in Brooklyn
  19. Coked-Up Whore
  20. Human Trafficking has Many Faces
  21. Into an India Brothel
  22. You Need a Girl?
  23. Human Trafficking Media
  24. The Son of God is Selling Children
  25. My Girls Raised $300 to help stop Human Trafficking
  26. Rape for Profit
  27. Human Trafficking Statistics
  28. Help Rescue Girls from Forced Prostitution

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship

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Tired of Life

By Jeremy Myers
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Tired of Life

So many people are tired of life, but they are more afraid of the end of life, so they just do whatever they can to get by.ย I know that we Christians think we have the answer to this, though I am not sure we always do a good job expressing it (or living it ourselves).

Here is a song a I heard recently on the radio which captures the feelings that most people around us have. The song is “Waiting for the End” by Linkin Park. (I don’t quite understand the video…anybody want to take a shot explaining it to me?)

As you listen to the song, you can follow the lyrics below. Notice especially the parts I have put in bold.

Lyrics:

This is not the end
This is not the beginning,
Just a voice like a riot
Rocking every revision
But you listen to the tone
And the violent rhythm
Though the words sound steady
Something empty’s within ’em

We say Yeah!
With fists flying up in the air
Like we’re holding onto something
That’s invisible there,
‘Cause we’re living at the mercy of
The pain and the fear
Until we dead it, Forget it,
Let it all disappear.

Waiting for the end to come
Wishing I had strength to stand
This is not what I had planned
It’s out of my control….

Flying at the speed of light
Thoughts were spinning in my head
So many things were left unsaid
It’s hard to let you go…

(Oh!) I know what it takes to move on,
I know how it feels to lie,
All I wanna do
Is trade this life for something new

Holding on to what I haven’t got

Sitting in an empty room
Trying to forget the past
This was never meant to last,
I wish it wasn’t so…

(Oh!) I know what it takes to move on,

I know how it feels to lie,
All I wanna do
Is trade this life for something new
Holding on to what I haven’t got

What was left when that fire was gone?
I thought it felt right but that right was wrong
All caught up in the eye of the storm
And trying to figure out what it’s like moving on
And I don’t even know what kind of things I’ve said
My mouth kept moving and my mind went dead
So, picking up the pieces, now where to begin?
The hardest part of ending is starting again!!

All I wanna do
Is trade this life for something new
Holding on to what I haven’t got…

This is not the end
This is not the beginning,
Just a voice like a riot
Rocking every revision
But you listen to the tone
And the violent rhythm
Though the words sound steady
Something’s empty within ’em
(Holding on to what I haven’t got)

We say Yeah!
With fists flying up in the air
Like we’re holding onto something
That’s invisible there,
‘Cause we’re living at the mercy of
The pain and the fear
Until we dead it, Forget it,
Let it all disappear
(Holding on to what I haven’t got!)

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, Theology of Salvation

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