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Father God Jesus Christ Glory Hallelujah

By Jeremy Myers
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Father God Jesus Christ Glory Hallelujah

Father God Jesus Christ Prayer

In a previous article we saw how people sometimes repeat God’s name over and over in their prayer. This is not a natural way of praying to God.

Another type of unnatural prayer is the one where two or three words are repeated over and over throughout the entire prayer. Sometimes these words are โ€œGlory to God! Hallelujah!โ€ Other times they are โ€œFather God,โ€ โ€œHoly Jesus,โ€ โ€œGlorify Your Name, Oh Lordโ€ or some combination or variation of these ideas.

Usually, while the person is praying out loud, they will inject these words at the beginning of every sentence, and sometimes right in the middle of a sentence.

what is prayerIn church prayer meetings, we usually donโ€™t think much of this sort of praying because it is so common. And while this sort of praying is not quite as strange as speaking in tongues, when it is carried over into a real-world conversation with another human being, it sounds completely bizarre. Imagine that instead of praying to โ€œFather Godโ€ two men, Theo and Andrew are having a conversation where Andrew repeats Theoโ€™s name every few words. Here is how this conversation might sound:

Theo: Hey Andrew! How have youโ€ฆ

Andrew: Oh Theo, I thank you for letting me come into your presence today, Theo, and Theo, I ask that you bless me today, Theo. For I am your servant, Theo, and come before you with nothing but an outstretched hand, oh Theo, hoping that you might, Theo, in your glory, Theo, and out of your grace, Theo, see fit to listen to my needs, Theo, and hear my requests, Theo, and grant them, Theo, according to your mercy, Theo.

Theo: Uhhhhโ€ฆ.

Andrew: And Theo, there are many people in this place, Theo, who have many burdens, Theo, and they come before you with many sins, Theo, which you, oh Theo, in your infinite wisdom, Theo, already know about, Theo. And we thank you, Theo, that because of your blood, Theo, shed for us, Theo, we might enter your presence, Theo, with boldness, Theo, before your throne of grace, Theoโ€ฆ

Theo: You can stop saying my name now. Iโ€™m not going to forget it.

Andrew: Oh Theo, Theo, Theo, Theo, Theo, Theo, Theo. We love your holy name, oh Theo. For in your name, Theo, there is strength, oh Theo, and power, oh Theo, and might, oh Theo, and glory! In your great name, Theo, we cast out evil spirits, Theo, and bind the enemy, Theoโ€ฆ

Have you ever heard prayers like this? Where โ€œFather Godโ€ or โ€œLord Jesusโ€ is mentioned every third or fourth word? This sort of prayer goes on for a while, and the person praying develops quite a rhythm, and pretty soon, those listening to the prayer start whispering, and even shouting the name of God also.

Itโ€™s a great way to pray if you want to drum up some enthusiastic โ€œAmens!โ€ to an eloquent and energetic prayer, but when it comes to having a conversation with God about what is important to Him and to us, Iโ€™m not sure that this is the best way to pray. When we talk to God, our goal should be to talk to God … not to get people to shout “Amen.”

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What about speaking in tongues during prayer meetings?

By Jeremy Myers
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What about speaking in tongues during prayer meetings?

Speaking in TonguesI have never spoken in tongues. And honestly, I have never wanted to. I had some pastor tell me that I didn’t want to speak in tongues because I was proud and didn’t want to look foolish in front of others. Maybe so. But I don’t think that looking foolish in front of others is doing a whole lot of good for the cause of Christ and the advancement of the kingdom. But that is a topic for some other time.

All I want to say is that if you speak in tongues, I am not trying to mock you or your prayer language in the rest of this post. I am only poking fun at the two examples below…

I am introducing my series called “Let Prayer Meetings Cease” by writing about several types of prayer that you might hear in a prayer meeting. (I write more about this in my forthcoming book, Cruciform Pastoral Leadership.) Recently we looked at the “Magic Words” prayer. Today, we look at the prayer where people let God do the talking.

The “I Don’t Know What I’m Saying, So God Will Say it For Me” Prayer

I have sometimes been in prayer meetings where people clearly lose their train of thought, or they don’t really know how to pray for the issue at hand, and so rather than pause, or stumble around for the right words, or simply pray wrongly and let God sort it out (He doesn’t mind), the person instead starts to “speak in tongues,” thus trying to impress everybody with their spirituality.

And rather than type what it sounds like, I will give you an example from YouTube. Of course, this guy is preaching a sermon, but just imagine he is praying instead. You’ll get the idea. I actually feel bad for this poor pastor. It appears that he was told that the Holy Spirit would take over and start preaching through him, but for some reason, the Holy Spirit power never really “kicks in” ย …unless 90% of a Holy Spirit Sermon consists of the words “Glory to God!ย Hallelujah!”

Oh, and I know this video is old. It looks like it’s from the 1980’s. But these kinds of sermons are still preached in countless pulpits across America today. In the religious environment in which I work, I hear sermons like this almost every week.

Speaking in Tongues Videos

The first is by Brother Barry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=askNweeETVM

And then there is this classic from Televangelist Robert Tilton:

I don’t know if you have ever been in prayer meetings where people do this sort of thing. It has always made me uncomfortable, and I often doubt that this is really what speaking in tongues was all about in Acts 2 and elsewhere in the New Testament. You can disagree, but I think it is always better to pray with words that both you and others understand.

Eventually I plan to write a book about speaking in tongues and what the Bible teaches about it (Join my discipleship group to be notified when it is published), but for now, I just encourage you to stay away from this practice in public prayer settings, especially when it is used as a means to make yourself look more spiritual and sound more holy. This is not what prayer is for.

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Don’t treat the Lord’s Prayer like a Magical Incantation

By Jeremy Myers
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Don’t treat the Lord’s Prayer like a Magical Incantation

what is prayerIf you have been to prayer meetings, you have probably heard various types of prayer. Sometimes you might hear what I call “Magic Spell prayers.”

Praying with Magic Words

There are some prayers that people memorize and then say as quickly as possible, as if it is only the words that matter. The Lordโ€™s Prayer is one example. While memorized and recited prayers can be meaningful and helpful, they sometimes degenerate into jumbled string of words where the person praying simply tries to get through as fast as possible.

Magic Words Prayer

It sounds something like this:

Ourfatherwhoartinheaven
hallowedbythynamethykingdomcome
thywillbedoneonearthasitisinheaven
giveusthisdayourdailybread
andforgiveusourtresspassesasweforgivethose
whotresspassagainstus
forthineisthekingdomandthepower
andthegloryforeverandeveramen.

Such prayers are more often found in the liturgical settings where prayers are read out of a book or memorized and recited. The goal in such praying seems to be to get the words out as fast as possible. It doesnโ€™t really matter if others understand you or not, of if you really mean the words or not. All that matters, apparently, are the words themselves.

In such cases, I sometimes imagine God saying to such people, โ€œWhoa there! Slow down! Take a breath! I like that prayer, but I canโ€™t understand a word of what youโ€™re saying!โ€

Many wordsGod understands what is being said, of course, but He doesnโ€™t care for such prayers because there is no focus on relational communication in praying this way.

Those who pray this way reveal a mindset that believes that prayers are like magic incantations, where the only thing that matters is that you pray with the magic words.

This sort of praying might be what Jesus had in mind when He criticized some people in Matthew 6:7 for babbling their prayers, thinking they will be heard for their many words. It is not the words God cares about, and especially not how fast we can get them out.

When you pray, slow down.

It is better to say five meaningful words to God, then 10,000 words without thought or meaning. God wants a relationship; not recited prayers.

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What is Theology?

By Jeremy Myers
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What is Theology?

People often hear pastors and Bible teachers talk about theology, but they want to know, “What is theology?”

Well, here is one definition of theology:

What is theology?

Did that definition of theology help any?

I didn’t think so.

If you are like me, you are probably more confused (and bored) now than you were before you read that definition of theology. If you are asking, “What is theology?” the only thing you really learned from that definition of theology above is that theology is confusing and boring. But take heart, theology doesn’t have have to be this way.

When properly taught, theology is not confusing and is never be boring. When properly studied, theology sets the heart on fire and opens up the mind to imagination and wonder. Let me show you how.

What is Theology?

Here at Till He Comes, my goal is to Bring Scripture and Theology to Life. I not only desire to write about these subjects in ways that are interesting and engaging, but also write about them in a way which shows how they affect your life right now.

So when people ask, “What is theology?” I not only seek to answer the question and provide a definition of theology that makes sense, but also to show how theology matters and how it makes a difference in your life today.

What is theology? Here is the basic definition of theology: Theology literally means “the study of God.”

But theology is so much more than that. When theology is truly studied, it ushers you into a deep relationship with God. Theology is not simply the study of God, but an interaction with God, a conversation with Him and with others about the deep mysteries of divinity. Theology is thinking God’s thoughts after Him. It is tracing the mind and heart of God, and learning to see the world through the eyes of God.

What is theology? Theology is entering into a lifelong conversation with God about Himself, ourselves, and how He wants to live life with us.

What is theology? Theology is learning to make God your best friend.

That sounds more exciting than the boring definition of theology provided in the image above, right?

Learning Theology

I suppose my answer to the question, “What is theology?” needs some examples.  If theology is ultimately an adventure with God, then theology cannot really be taught, but must be experienced. However, learning theology is the first step in experiencing theology. So below I provide some basic instruction about theology, the various categories of theology, and some of my own thoughts about theology.

You may notice by looking through the posts below that this is a work in progress. But that again is a truth about theology. When we ask, “What is theology?” we cannot expect to learn theology in an afternoon. Learning theology is a life-long process, which I believe will be continued in eternity. Just as God is infinite, so learning about God requires infinity.

In the post below, I seek to answer the question “What is theology?” by sharing with you some of what I have learned about theology over the years, and by asking some of the questions I still have.

There are two types of posts below. Some contain summaries of my seminary class notes. I know this might sound boring, but I do my best to summarize them in an interesting way.

However, after I summarize my notes, it is then that things really get lively. I take the theology I was taught, and then challenge, question, and critique it in a way I was not able to do in seminary (at least, not if I wanted to graduate).

Eventually, there will be hundreds of posts on this page, so you may want to Subscribe to the Blog so that you get new posts as they are published.

The posts are divided into the traditional categories of Systematic Theology:

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|  Introduction  |  Bibliology  |  Theology Proper  |  Anthropology  |  Hamartiology  |  Christology  |  Soteriology  |  Pneumatology  |  Ecclesiology  |  Eschatology  |  Angelology  |


What is Theology

Introduction to Theology

  • Theology Introduction Category Posts
  • Recovering from Seminary
  • Theological Prolegomena
    • Paul Never Wrote About Justification
    • Adding Love to Theology
    • God is not a Science Project
    • The Different Types of Theology
    • Divisions of Systematic Theology
    • Introduction to Theology: A Reading List
  • Is Interest in Theology Waning?
  • Theology Quotes for your Critique
  • Theology God
  • What’s More Important: Truth or Love?
  • Knowing Your Theology
  • Questions about Theology


Bibliology

Bibliology

  • Theology of the Bible Category Posts
  • Introduction: Bibliology is Dangerous
  • Divine Revelation
    • Hearing from God
    • Dueling Revelations
    • Scripture vs. Science: Who Wins?
    • Revelation is Like a Bouquet of Roses
    • Seminary Class Notes on General Revelation
    • Seminary Class Notes on Special Revelation
    • Is God Red in Tooth and Claw?
    • How you can know the Bible is Divine Revelation
    • Get Rich Quick: Start Your Own Religion
  • Inspiration of Scripture
    • Views of the Inspiration of Scripture
    • I Don’t Believe in the Inspiration of Scripture
    • One Verse Doctrines
    • The Uninspired History of Inspiration
    • Is All Scripture God-Breathed?
    • A New Take on 2 Timothy 3:16
    • Is the Doctrine of Inspiration Biblical?
    • The Bible is not a Magic Book
    • Jesus Condemns Bible Study
    • Debating Inspiration with Myself
    • Why the KJV is an Inspired Translation
    • Which Bible Translation is Best?
    • The Best Bible Translation
    • The Inspiration of Nature
    • Most Inspired Comments
  • Inerrancy of Scripture
    • I am Always Right
    • Inerrancy of Scripture (Seminary Notes)
    • How to Solve Biblical Difficulties
    • Arguments Against Inerrancy
    • The Bible Contains Errors
    • Why Inerrancy Doesn’t Matter (…too much)
    • Is the Bible a Fable?
    • What if the Bible is  Myth?
    • The Problem with the Bible
    • Why was the Bible Written? 
    • How is the Bible True?
    • The Bible Was Not Written to You
    • Stop Living Like Jesus
    • Stop Obeying the Bible
  • The Canonization of Scripture (Seminary Notes)
    • Questioning the Canon of Scripture
    • How the Early Church Undermined Inerrancy
  • Miscellaneous Posts
    • The Impossibility of Properly Understanding Scripture
  • Questions about Bibliology

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  • Theology of God Category Posts
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Anthropology

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Books that Help with the “What is Theology?” Question

If you are eager to learn more about theology and cannot wait for me to finish the posts above, here are a few theology books that I recommend which will help answer your questions about theology. If you still want to know “What is theology?” the books below will help.

  • Norman Geisler’s Systematic Theology
  • Wayne Grudem’s Systematic Theology
  • Lewis Sperry Chafer’s Systematic Theology

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    Giving up the Wild Goose Chase

    By Jeremy Myers
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    Giving up the Wild Goose Chase

    I don’t know much about the Holy Spirit.

    And I think that’s the way God wants it.

    I used to think I knew a whole lot more than I think I know now.

    Wild Goose ChaseIt’s funny how that happens. Just when you think you’ve got God all figured out, He shows up and turns it all upside down. This is especially true with the Holy Spirit.

    So I know less today then I knew ten years ago…you know, back when I had all the answers.

    Don’t get me wrong. I tried to hold on to God. I tried to keep Him boxed up and tied down. When I felt Him slipping out of my grasp, I tried to corner Him.

    But I found that the more I chased, the faster He ran. The more I tried to trap Him, the slipperyer (try saying that 10 times) He became. God’s tricky that way.

    It’s like trying to catch a fish with your bare hands. Have you ever tried it? The more you move, the further away they swim.

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