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Did the Death of Jesus Appease an Angry God?

By Jeremy Myers
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Did the Death of Jesus Appease an Angry God?

In many Christian circles, when people think about why Jesus died on the cross, the following is the basic logic that many believe:

God is infinitely holy and righteous. As such, any sin against God is an infinite offense. Therefore, an infinite sacrifice is required to cover an infinite offense. Because humans are sinners, we deserve eternal punishment for our eternal offense. But God wanted to show mercy to us, and so He sent Jesus to die in our place. Since Jesus is God, the death of Jesus is an infinite sacrifice, which is therefore sufficient to cover the infinite offense of sin.

Though different authors, pastors, and teachers will explain the death of Jesus in different ways, this is the basic outline many will use. I used to teach and write about the death of Jesus in this same way, and in fact, many of the posts and sermons which you can find on this blog will contain this exact sort of theological explanation about the death of Jesus.

death of Jesus on the cross

But let us look a little deeper at what this sort of explanation says about God, sin, righteousness, and the death of Jesus.

The logic of the argument above basically teaches that God gets so worked up over sin, He wants to burn forever and ever those who commit any sin. And since James 2:10 says that even one sin makes us guilty, it doesn’t even matter if we only commit “small” sins. Sin is sin, and even “small” sins deserve eternal hell fire. So if you get mad at your neighbor when his dog digs through your trash, or if you are not completely honest with your boss about why you were ten minutes late for work, God’s justice demands that you get punished the same as if you were serial rapist and mass murderer.

Though this seems unjust, people explain that it only seems unjust because we are sinful human beings and think that some sins are not as bad as others. We are told that since God is infinitely holy and righteous, all sins, no matter how small, are an infinite offense to His holiness. So even getting angry at our neighbor’s dog or lying about why we were 10 minutes late for work is an infinite affront to the righteousness of God, and therefore, deserving of infinite punishment.

But … things don’t seem so cut and dry when we rephrase the question a bit …

Look what happens when we turn the question around:

So it is wrong for me to get angry at my neighbor when his dog digs through my trash, but it is perfectly righteous for God to be eternally angry at me for getting angry at my neighbor? And while I vent my anger by muttering under my breath while I pick up the garbage in my lawn, God gets over His anger … never … while I burn for all eternity in hell?

When the question is presented this way, this sort of god just doesn’t seem very godly. Or at least … this sort of god doesn’t look at all like Jesus.

The typical response, of course, is that this why God sent Jesus. God didn’t actually want humanity to burn forever for muttering under our breath at our neighbor, but His justice demanded that He behave like this. God was sort of captive to His own righteous justice.

But since He loves us so much, He sent His Son Jesus to suffer and die in our place, so that all that “righteous” rage can get poured out on Jesus instead of on us.

Again, this is exactly what I used to believe and teach.

But in recent years, I have begun to have doubts that this is exactly what happened (Get my series of posts on the death and resurrection of Jesus to learn more.)

Problems with the Traditional Explanation of the Death of Jesus

Does it make sense to think that Jesus came to rescue us from God? Does it make sense to think that God sent Jesus to rescue us from Himself? Or at least, from some aspect of Himself?

IF so, God now appears rather schizophrenic. Does God want to kill us for all eternity or love us for all eternity? The theological explanation above makes it sound as if He wants both.

Furthermore, what good does it do for God to pour out His wrath upon the innocent victim, Jesus?

Let us say that after I get angry at my neighbor for letting his dog spread garbage all over my lawn, I go down the street and set a different neighbor’s house on fire. Does my act of arson do anything to relieve my anger at the first neighbor or his dog? No! Setting an innocent third party’s house on fire does not alleviate my wrath toward the guilty party at all. This would still be true if the innocent neighbor noticed my anger at my neighbor’s dog, and said, “Don’t be angry at him; instead, come burn my house down.”

I would look at him like he is crazy. How would burning down his house help me at all? Yet this is what we think happened with God’s wrath in the killing of Jesus. Somehow, though God was angry at us, His anger was appeased by letting us kill His Son? I just don’t see how that would help the situation.

But there are other problems beyond this.

God’s love and grace for us is supposedly unconditional. But if He couldn’t actually show us love and grace unless Jesus first came to die on the cross in our place, then isn’t that a condition on His love and grace? It seems that if Jesus had not come to die, then according to this traditional understanding of the death of Jesus, God could not have shown His “unconditional” love and grace for us.

jesus died in the crossFurthermore, people say that God had to pour out His wrath against sin upon somebody (either us or Jesus) in order to satisfy his justice. Yet then we say that God did this out of His mercy.

But this is logically impossible.

By definition, mercy and justice are mutually exclusive. If a man robs a bank and then goes to prison for 20 years, this might be considered justice. But what if, after the crook spends 20 years in prison, the judge meets him at the prison gates and says, “Aren’t I merciful to let you out of prison today?” The recently-freed man would say, “You’re not merciful. I just spent 20 years in jail. Mercy would have been setting me free 20 years ago.” You see? If justice is satisfied, there is no need for mercy. And if one chooses to show mercy, then by definition, they cannot also demand justice. Yet if God poured out His wrath upon Jesus to satisfy His justice, then God is a just God, but He is not merciful. On the other hand, if God decides to show mercy to humankind, then, by definition, He cannot demand justice, even justice upon Jesus.

I could go on and on about this, but here’s the point: There are numerous flaws with the idea that the death of Jesus paid the penalty for our sins or satisfied the wrath of God.

Logically and theologically, it just doesn’t work.

But there is a bigger problem still …

Jesus: The Pagan Sacrifice to God

A short while back I wrote a post about a few things Christians can learn from Pagans. A guy on Facebook blew up about this, leaving comment after comment after comment about how ridiculous it was to suggest such a thing. He argued that Paganism has infiltrated Christianity in numerous ways, and we must root out and destroy all such pagan influences, traditions, and customs.

I know where he is coming from, but I just think that (1) his position is logically, theologically, and realistically impossible, and (2) the most pagan things about Christianity are found at the core beliefs and behaviors of many Christians — especially those who are on the war-path against pagan influences.

In my experience, for example, those who are most concerned with getting rid of all pagan influences in Christianity, are also those who tend to be the most judgmental and critical toward those Christians who still incorporate some of those pagan traditions and customs. But which is more pagan: putting tinsel on a Christmas tree or judging and condemning the people who do?

What does all this have to do with the death of Jesus?

At the core of much of Christian theology is the pagan idea that God requires blood sacrifice to forgive sins. The vast majority of Christians believe that God hates sin so much that He is filled with wrath toward sin.

He hates sin so much, we are told, that He cannot even be in sin’s presence.

But, we are told, God’s wrath toward sin can be appeased with blood. God needs someone to pay for the eternal offense of sin against Him and His holiness. Thankfully, as the theory goes, just when God was demanding that all of us wretched sinners open our veins for God to appease His wrath toward us, Jesus stepped up and said, “I’ll take the bullet. I’ll die for them all.”

So Jesus came to earth, died as a sacrifice for our sins, poured out His blood upon God’s heavenly altar, and in so doing, appeased the wrath of God.

When God looks at us now, He doesn’t see sin; He sees Jesus. Therefore, instead of wanting to incinerate us, God can now love us.

Again, this is the basic sort of theology we hear in most churches about the death of Jesus and why He had to come and suffer and die.

But do you know where this entire theology comes from? Not from Scripture, but from Paganism!

Almost every religion in the world has the idea that the gods are mad at us for our sin, and we must do things to appease their wrath. We must sacrifice our goats, and make vows to visit holy places, and commit to treating people with more love (or commit to killing certain โ€œenemiesโ€ of the gods).

When our sin is really serious, the gods want blood, whether it is our own blood, or the blood from someone in our family. As a last resort, the gods may accept the blood of a valuable animal.

And yes, I know that the most popular way of reading the Old Testament sees support for this idea in the Mosaic Law. When most people read the laws that are recorded in Leviticus and Deuteronomy, they see an angry god who wants blood.

But this sacrificial way of reading the Bible is influenced heavily by paganism, and is not at all what Scripture teaches.

the death of Jesus was not for godWhen the Pentateuch is understood in its entirety, it appears that the message of the Pentateuch is that God was never angry at people and never wanted sacrifices and offerings, but wanted instead a people for Himself who lived by faith in God and with justice and mercy before a watching world. See Sailhamerโ€™s magnum opus for more on this.

Furthermore, when the Israelite prophets come on the scene, nearly all of them decry and condemn the sacrificial system as not at all reflecting what was in God’s heart. Jeremiah says that God never commanded his people to offer sacrifices and burnt offerings (Jeremiah 7:22-23). Amos says that God hated their religious festivals and burnt offerings (Amos 5:21-24). Micah points out that God doesn’t need thousands of rams and rivers of oil, and definitely not a family’s firstborn son. Instead, God wants justice, kindness, and humility (Micah 6:6-8). God is not delighted with sacrifices and offerings, says the Psalmist, but with a broken and contrite spirit (Psalm 51:16-17).

So it is no surprise, when Jesus comes on the scene, that He tells people through His words and His actions that God is not angry with His people, that He does not want more sacrifices and offerings, that He loves, accepts, and freely forgives all people, no matter what.

While Jesus did proclaim freedom from sin, He did not do so on the basis of the sacrificial system (or even His own sacrifice), but simply on the basis of God’s limitless love, mercy, grace, and forgiveness.

God forgives, simply because He is a loving and forgiving God. End of story. No sacrifices, offerings, blood, or death are required.

the death of Jesus was not for god

So Why Then Did Jesus Die?

When Jesus went to the cross, He did not die for God.

There are numerous reasons Jesus died. One was to put death to death. Another was to defeat sin and the devil (cf. Heb 2:14-18; Rom 6:4-13; 1 Cor 15:22, 45). But one reason I want to focus on here is that Jesus wanted to expose the lie of the scapegoat: the religious lie that an innocent victim must die for sin.

To put it bluntly, Jesus died to expose religion as a big, fat, satanic lie.

In His death, Jesus put to death the religious requirement of death. In His death, Jesus exposed the emptiness of the sacrificial system for what it was: a form of satanic enslavement by which humans think they are appeasing God for that which He had already forgiven them for.

Religion says: God is angry with you, but will forgive you if you do great things for Him and offer valuable things to Him. By going to the cross under the condemnation of religion, and then being raised again to new life, Jesus exposed the powerful and satanic lie of religion.

Through His death and resurrection, Jesus announced loud and clear that God is not angry at sin, and that just as sin, death, and the devil have no hold on God, they have no hold on us either.

God is not angry at sin. If He’s angry at anything, He is angry at enslavement. God wants us to live free.

And while sin does enslave, the greatest slaver of all is religion.

As such, God wants to free us from religion more than He wants to free us from sin. This is what Jesus proclaimed through His life, death, and resurrection.

The Resurrection of Religion

Sadly, within a few short years of Jesus’ ascension, Christians returned once again the sacrificial mentality of religion. They took the satanic desire to appease God through sacrifice and applied it to Jesus Christ, saying that Jesus was the perfect sacrifice which appeased God once and for all. And ever since this shift was made under Augustine and Anselm, Christianity has been little more than another world religion which seeks to appease God through good behavior and personal sacrifice.

So if people truly want to rid themselves of all things pagan, they need to start not with their holidays and traditions, but with their theology.

Most specifically, we need to rid ourselves of this idea that God is angry at us for our sin and needs to be appeased through blood and sacrifice. This has never been true of God and is not true today.

The sacrificial reading of Scripture is a pagan reading of Scripture, which does not represent the heart of God, but represents a pagan view of God in which God is angry and must be appeased through sacrifice and human merit.

In contrast to this, the God revealed in Jesus Christ is not angry, but loves freely and forgives freely. No ifs, ands, or buts. The death of Jesus did not secure for us the forgiveness of God. God already forgave us freely by His grace.

Now, some of you might be thinking about Hebrews 9:22. But this post is already WAY too long, and an examination ofย Hebrews 9:22ย deservers a post of its own.

The cross of Jesus is CENTRAL to everything!

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God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: atonement, christus victor, crucifixion, cruciform, crucivision, death of Jesus, substitutionary atonement, Theology of God, Theology of Jesus, Theology of Sin

Are Christians infatuated with the Blood of Jesus?

By Jeremy Myers
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Are Christians infatuated with the Blood of Jesus?

fountain of bloodHave you ever listened to some of the songs Christians sing around Easter? We seem to be infatuated with the blood of Jesus.

Take this song as an example:

There is a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuelโ€™s veins;
And sinners plunged beneath that flood lose all their guilty stains.

Or this one:

Have you been to Jesus for the cleansing power?
Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?
Are you fully trusting in His grace this hour?
Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?

Refrain:
Are you washed in the blood,
In the soul cleansing blood of the Lamb?
Are your garments spotless? Are they white as snow?
Are you washed in the blood of the Lamb?

Then there is this song:

What can wash away my sin?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.
What can make me whole again?
Nothing but the blood of Jesus.

Refrain:
O precious is the flow that makes me white as snow;
No other fount I know; nothing but the blood of Jesus.

blood of JesusThese songs have images of a bloody river and a fountain filled with blood drawn from Emmanuel’s veins. Yikes! Some Christian songs sound more like a gruesome and gory scene from a Freddy Krueger movie than from something having to do with Jesus Christ.

And what’s this about washing in the blood of the lamb? That sounds an awful lot like some ancient Pagan sacrificial rituals where worshippers pour the blood of bulls, goats, and lambs over their heads.

Is this really what God wants from us? To take baths in the blood of Jesus? To swim in rivers of blood and dance around in bloody fountains?

What is the deal with the blood of Jesus?

I fully admit that I used to focus a lot on the blood of Jesus as well. In fact, I once preached a whole sermon about the painful trial and bloody ordeal that Jesus experienced on the cross.

But in recent years, I have begun to wonder if all this emphasis on the blood of Jesus, including His suffering and pain on the cross, is what Jesus really wants.

Does Jesus want us to focus on the blood He spilled and the pain He endured on the cross?

I used to think so, but in recent years, I am not so sure.

Reservations About the Blood of Jesus

One of the first things that made me wonder about our infatuation with they blood of Jesus is the realization that the Gospels don’t say much about the blood of Jesus. Similarly, there is hardly any mention about His suffering and pain. For the most part, the Gospel accounts of the crucifixion of Jesus are fairly benign.

blood of Jesus ChristThey report the details of what happened and what was said, but they report almost nothing about the gruesome nature of crucifixion or the pain that Jesus must have endured.

Then more recently, I read the following section from Darin Hufford’s book The Misunderstood God:

We have scientifically based teachings that walk us through the pain and suffering Jesus must have gone through during the Crucifixion. We make movies that dramatize the flogging and beating He underwent on our behalf. At Easter we put together pageants and invite outsiders to come and watch Jesus get the tar beat out of Him for their sins.

We have come to believe that it is God’s heart to hold this moment over the heads of His children in an effort to get them to obey the rules. If we are graphically reminded of the pain and suffering He underwent on our behalf, perhaps we will do our best to repay Him by living a right life.

The God I grew up with was like the mother who constantly reminded her kids of the pain she went through during childbirth in an effort to guilt them into doing what she wants. … Sadly, the gospel message has been affected by this way of thinking. “God loves you; come to Him,” has been turned into, “Jesus got a major beating that was meant for you, so come to Him.”

… Imagine if a man broke into my home and was planning on killing my wife and children, but I convinced him to take my life instead of theirs. If he let them escape and then proceeded to take me into a back room and film himself torturing me for hours until finally taking my life, do you think I would ever want my family to see that videotape? Absolutely not! I would want them to remember my life and my love for them. There is nothing inside me that would ever want them to view the pain I underwent to save their lives. That would break their hearts.

This is how God feels when we reenact the stations of the cross in an effort to riddle people with guilt and condemnation. It doesn’t motivate; it exasperates. This is not what love desires (pp. 63, 67).

He makes a good point, doesn’t he?

One could argue, I suppose, that the Gospel authors barely mentioned the blood and gore because the original readers of the Gospel accounts were quite familiar with the agonizing nature of crucifixion, and since most of us are not, the details need to be presented. To some degree, I hold to this argument myself, which is why I continue to keep online my study about the pain of crucifixion.

blood of Jesus ChristYet at the same time, if we want to truly understand what the Gospel authors were saying, we need to do our best to let them provide the details they think are important, and try to set aside the rest as nothing more than interesting historical side notes.

And when it comes to understanding what the Gospel authors are saying about the crucifixion of Jesus, they have chosen to focus very little of their attention on the suffering and blood of Jesus.

So if we want to understand the Gospels, we should do the same.

The blood of Jesus is not that big of a deal in the Gospels, nor is His pain and suffering.

Jesus went to the cross out of love, to rescue us from sin, death, and devil, but since the Gospels (or the rest of the New Testament for that matter) donโ€™t place much emphasis on the blood of Jesus or the pain He went through on the cross, maybe we shouldnโ€™t eitherโ€ฆ

The cross of Jesus is CENTRAL to everything!

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God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: blood, crucifixion, cruciform, crucivision, death of Jesus, Easter, resurrection, Theology of Jesus

How Central is the Cross of Jesus to your Life and Theology?

By Jeremy Myers
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How Central is the Cross of Jesus to your Life and Theology?

Do you understand everything that occurred in the crucifixion of Jesus, and how central it is to your life and theology?

Whether you think so or not, let me introduce you to the cross of Jesus and how truly significant it really is.

For me, the death and resurrection of Jesus is the foundation to how I read and study Scripture. The cross is at the center of my theology. What Jesus did on the cross provides the pinnacle example of how Christians are to live our lives. Without the cross, there is no Gospel. And as Paul says, if Christ is not raised, our faith is in vain (1 Cor 15:17).

crucifixion of Jesus

I have written a lot on this blog about the death and resurrection of Jesus, and some people have asked that I make these posts more accessible to readers. So to help you see the same thing, I have decided to make several of my central blog posts about the death and resurrection of Jesus available to people by email.

If you want to receive my posts on the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus in your email inbox for you to read at your leisure, I have now created a way for you to do just that. To get started, add your name and email address in the form at the bottom of this post.

redeeming JesusThe crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus forms the foundation for everything I write on this blog. Everything.

What Jesus accomplished on the cross and through His resurrection is central to everything else. The death and resurrection of Jesus are not only central to Scripture and the Gospel, but are also central to learning (maybe for the first time) what God is like, and how we are supposed to live our lives as followers of Jesus.

By reading these emails, you are forming a firm foundation for understanding Scripture, theology, church, and life. You are gaining what I like to call “crucivision.” You will learn to see everything through the lens of Jesus Christ on the cross.

Fill out the form below to get started. I cannot wait for you to start fully understanding the significance of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus.

There are about 26 emails in this series, and you will get one every Friday, which means that by getting these emails, you can spend the next six months focusing your mind on “Jesus Christ and Him Crucified.” This will be revolutionary for you. See you soon!

The cross of Jesus is CENTRAL to everything!

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What I Appreciate About Pagans

By Jeremy Myers
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What I Appreciate About Pagans

This post is part of the March Synchroblog, in which each participant writes what they appreciate about another religion. I chose to write what I appreciate about Pagans.

Who are the Pagans?

Christians often refer to any non-religious person as a โ€œpaganโ€ or a โ€œheathen.โ€

Odin
This is a drawing of Odin, the Pagan deity who hung on a tree and sacrificed his eye to gain wisdom so that he might rescue the world from evil giants.

But did you know that there really is a โ€œPaganโ€ religion? And no, they donโ€™t worship the devil, cut themselves with knives, or sacrifice virgins in the woods. They do often worship out in nature, and tend to follow the ancient beliefs and practices of Nordic mythology. Donโ€™t know what that is either? Think โ€œVikings.โ€ They have various gods and goddesses, among which are Odin, Thor, and Freya. They use runes to help them make decisions and understand the times. Many of their stories can be found in The Poetic Edda.

If you have heard of Paganism in the news, it might be in connection with racism. It is true that some white supremacists call themselves โ€œPagans,โ€ but most members of the Pagan religion denounce the beliefs and behaviors of this racist fringe, and have nothing to do with them. Just like certain radical, hate-filled, and violent people claim to be โ€œChristian,โ€ but have nothing to do with the teaching of Christ, so also, some racists claim to be Pagan but are not representative of the entire group.

pagan christian calendarNow that I live in the Pacific Northwest, I have come to know many people who consider themselves โ€œPagan.โ€ They are not atheist, godless people, but are quite devout, religious people. As I have had various conversations with them, I have come to respect many things about them and their religion, and believe that there is much that Christians can learn from Pagans. (If the truth be told, Christians have already borrowed a huge chunk of Pagan beliefs and practices. Most deny that this is so, but denying the truth doesnโ€™t make the truth disappear. But this is a topic for another post.)

Here are three things Christians can learn from Pagans.

1. The Rede (or Rule) of Honor

Pagans have a great sense of honor. They understand the importance of honor, how to gain honor, and how to pass it on to their children. They have rules, or guidelines, about how to treat others with dignity and respect, and how to preserve freedom so that all can live a joyful, productive, and vigorous life.

I believe that there is very little honor left in many forms of Christianity. To a large degree, Christianity has become a materialistic, consumeristic religion, which values money, wealth, possessions, power, and position above honor.

world tree

2. Many people connect with God in Nature

I love nature. I love being in nature. I have always felt closer to God when I am in nature. I can pray better, think better, and listen better when I hear the wind in the trees, the bubbling of the brook, and the call of the squirrels to one another in the branches.

I so wish that Christians would feel the freedom to get out of their stained-glass sanctuaries with professional choirs and padded pews, and get into the wild of nature where God builds His own stained-sunset sanctuary every night, orchestrates his own music, and pads his fallen logs with moss and the ground with pine needles.

Why is a man-made building an โ€œapprovedโ€ meeting place for Christians, but the God-made house of nature not? Why is the music of man to God considered worship, but not the music of a bird welcoming the morning or the sound of snow falling in the woods?

paganism I think many in Christianity would greatly benefit from a move into the woods. Not so that we can destroy the peace of nature by singing our songs and listening to sermons there (God forbid!), but so that we can listen to the songs already being sung, and see the sermons already being preached. Yes, see. I never go into nature without seeing sermons everywhere I look.

3. No required or mandatory services.

While many Pagans have certain prayers they say or practices they observe on a regular basis, there is no hierarchy of priests and pastors who tell everybody else โ€œThis is the right way. Do it this way, or else.โ€ There is great flexibility and freedom for each person or group to believe and practice how they feel best.

This sounds scary to most Christians, because if we just let everyone do what they want and believe what they want, wonโ€™t people believe and practice all sorts of crazy, heretical, outlandish things?

Yes, they will. And how does that differ from the way things already are? The way things are (and have always been), Christians believe and practice all sorts of crazy, heretical, outlandish things, but people feel like itโ€™s โ€œokayโ€ because they have priests, clergy, and seminary-trained pastors who teach them to believe and do these things.

Nevertheless, one group argues with and condemns another group. They point fingers at each other, call each other nasty names, and condemn each other to hell. (Which is one of the beliefs we borrowed from paganism, by the way. They call it Hel. I find it SO ironic that the same Christians who condemn Christmas and Easter as being โ€œpaganโ€ religions, condemn to hell anybody who observes these holidays, when most Christian beliefs about โ€œhellโ€ are also borrowed from paganism!)

When one Pagan encounters another Pagan who believes and practices Paganism differently, they might argue a bit about these things, but in the end, they both just shrug their shoulders and decide to โ€œlive and let live.โ€ I love this, and am trying to follow Jesus this way in my own life as well. Just as I believe Jesus is leading me to live a certain way, I trust that He is able to lead and guide others also, and I have to believe that He may lead them in a completely different direction than He is leading me.

Do you have any โ€œPaganโ€ friends? Have you ever encountered people who are part of the โ€œPaganโ€ religion? Let me know through Facebook or Twitter by sharing this post below.

Here is a list of the other participants in this monthโ€™s synchroblog:

  • Mark Votava โ€“ How Christianity Can Learn from Buddhism
  • Justine Steckbauer โ€“ Christianity and Other Religions: Many roads or exclusive path?
  • Glenn Hager โ€“ The Thing About Labels
  • Clara Ogwuazor-Mbamalu โ€“ What I Appreciate about Islam
  • Bram Bonius โ€“ย What can Christians learn from neo-pagans and โ€˜magickalโ€™ traditions?
  • Mictori โ€“ Buddhism Reshaped my Easter
  • Pastor FedEx โ€“ 3 Things Christians Learn from Other Religions
  • Leah Sophia โ€“ Land, Sun, Community, Crops
  • Kathy Escobar โ€“ Why I Love Interfaith Conversations

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: Christianity, church, pagan, religion, synchroblog

Redeeming God Redeeming Me

By Jeremy Myers
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Redeeming God Redeeming Me

redeeming GodWelcome to the new website: RedeemingGod.com

“Redeeming God” is still under construction, and will be for quite some time …

I was going to write a post about all the changes you can expect to see and what plans I have for the future, but then I realized that I simply don’t know what is going to happen to me or this blog next week, let alone next year.

However, here are a few things to note for right now (though these also may change):

Redeeming God? What’s that about?

Remember when Drew Marshall made fun of my blog name “Till He Comes“? I laughed it off because he said what I had been thinking for quite a while.

I never switched the name of my blog because I never had a better title. But a while back I realized that redemption is a huge theme in my life, and redemption is what God is calling me to call people to.

You may notice that “redeeming God” is a play on words. The word “Redeeming” can be both an adjective and a present participle. It can describe God (He is a Redeemer) or it can describe the action of seeking to redeem God. Which way do I intend it? I intend both. God is redeeming us, but he also needs to be redeemed. I hope to invite people into both arenas through this blog.

Read my “About” page for more.

redeeming God on the cross

Here are a few other things about RedeemingGod.com

Posting Frequency

On the Till He Comes blog, I tried to post 5-6 times per week. On this blog, I may occasionally post that frequently, but I might only post 5-6 times per year. This time around, I will publish posts, not because I have to, but because I have something to say. I will publish posts only when I have fire in my bones (Jer 20:9).

Old Content Cultivation and Curation

One of my short-term goals is to edit/cultivate/curate a lot of the old content on this blog. I want to correct various things on some of my old posts and sermon pages. I want to make some series of posts more accessible to readers. Some of my content might even get converted into a podcast.

Since I have well over 2000 posts and pages on this site, this process could take quite some time…

If you want to follow along with some of the changes that occur, you won’t actually see much of it here on the blog. Most of it will get posted on my Facebook page and on Twitter. So if you want to observe some of these “behind the scenes” changes, make sure you join me on Facebook and Twitter.

Wait! Did you Mention A Podcast?

Yes, I might start a podcast.

One problem I had with my old blog was that it consumed me. I don’t want that to happen again. A podcast is a huge undertaking, so if I start one, it might be something I do instead of publishing blog posts.

Maybe.

Hey, where are the comments?

You may notice that I turned off the comment section. Read the black box at the bottom of the page for a brief explanation.

And again, I might turn comments back on in the future. But I might not.

Are you still sending out free eBooks?

Maybe.

Skeleton Church by Jeremy MyersFor right now, people can still get Skeleton Church for free by subscribing to my email newsletter. This might change in the future, but it might not. I don’t know if I will publish more books in the future or not. I suspect I will, but I don’t know when, I don’t know what, and I don’t know how. If I do publish more books, and I am able to send them out for free to people who get my blog updates, I will do so.

I am also working on a way for subscribers to get many of my older books for free through email. But again, this might happen and it might not. (Are you seeing a theme here?)

What happened to the forum?

Nobody really used it, so it’s gone.

If enough people complain, maybe I will bring it back. But maybe not.

Did Adam have a belly button?

Of course he did, silly!

Well, maybe not… ๐Ÿ˜‰

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Blogging, redemption, writing

I am Dying … (So I Can Live Again)

By Jeremy Myers
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I am Dying … (So I Can Live Again)

One of the themes of my life is that death precedes resurrection.

I firmly believe that many people hold on to personal goals and pet projects long after they should have let them die a natural death. If we would let these things die, this would enable God to raise up something new in our life from the dust and ashes of the past.

I am dying

I wrote about this in The Death and Resurrection of the Church. Churches often keep programs running for many years after they have ceased contributing anything to the life of Jesus in the church. If a church would remove programs from life-support, they would see God raise up new leaders with new ideas for new ways to reach new people.

But talking about letting things die is one thing. Actually letting things die is quite another.

I have recently begun to feel God calling me to let a lot of things in my life die.

What things?

dying to my blogSpecifically, most of the things related to my โ€œonline presence.โ€

This blog.

My publishing company.

My books.

My writing.

My web design work.

My Twitter account.

My Facebook account.

I feel that God is calling me to allow everything that makes me โ€œmeโ€ to die.

Why? Because my online presence has consumed the real-life me.

When I first started my website over fifteen years ago, I wrote just for the fun of writing.

But in the last year or two, writing has become a burden, a chore. It has become something I must do so that I can maintain everything I have built up to this point. Rather than being excited about some new insight from Scripture or idea about theology which I get to pass on to others, my writing has become more about pageviews, backlinks, ad revenue, email subscriber stats, book sales, and comment counts. And as I have come to focus on these, the thrill and joy of study and writing has disappeared.

So I feel God wants me to just let it all die.

This is terrifying for me.

I have spent countless thousands of hours building my website and getting it to the place it is now. Can I just let it all go?

I generate money every month from advertisements and books sales which I have come to depend upon for monthly bills. What will I do without that money?

I have made some good online friends through online blogging and writing. Will they now disappear?

I do feel, however, that if I let everything die, God will raise something up from the ashes. I feel that God has something more for me than the tiny little blogging and book publishing empire I have built for myself (Which is not an empire at all, but more like a cool-aid stand on the corner…)

But at the same time, I wish that before I let everything die, God would tell me what He is going to resurrect. That would make the dying so much easier.

Yet I know that God does not work that wayโ€ฆ Every time I have seen death lead to resurrection in my life, I have never, not once, known what the season of resurrection was going to look like during the time I was going through the season of death.

So I am going to let things die, and then see what God raises up in His own time.

Here is what this looks like for my blog and books:

I am not actually “killing” anything. I’m not going to delete this blog or cancel my Facebook account. I am just going to step back from it all. I am taking a break from online activity.

For the most part, I will not be very active on Twitter, Facebook, or on this blog. For how long? I do not know. It may be a month. It may be a year. It may be forever. I just donโ€™t know.

Nothing that is currently online will be taken down. I am leaving up all my blogs and websites. I just will not be adding content to them regularly (if at all).

I do, of course, have some commitments to tie up. I have agreed to publish some books through Redeeming Press. This will get done. Those authors who are already published will continue to receive royalty payments.

I am blogging once a week in preparation for the โ€œAll About Eveโ€ conference. That will continue as well.

But thatโ€™s about it.

I think one reason God is calling me to die to all this is because very little of it is me. Over the past two years, I have come to see that God does not want us to be like Him, nor does God want us to be like Jesus. God calls us to be fully us.

We most glorify God and we most reveal Jesus only when we live up to who God made us to be and where Jesus is leading us to go.

As long as we try to be like God and point people to Jesus, we are hiding from and even denying the person God has made us to be.

As I look back over my research, study, and writing from the past several years, I see that I have been doing everything I can to not be me, but to be someone else instead. This is not all bad, because we learn by imitation, but God has recently been calling me to be me.

new lifeSince I am not sure I know what that means, the me I have become must die so that the me God desires can rise up refreshed and renewed.

So until God raises up something new in my life, or gives me direction on what He wants me to do, or maybe just gives me permission to pick back up where I left off because I needed a Sabbath rest, I will not regularly publish new blog posts, write new books, respond to comments, or interact with people much on the various social sites. If you send me email, I cannot promise I will respond to that either. I just feel God calling me to die.

And when resurrection comes โ€ฆ as it always does โ€ฆ it will be in Godโ€™s timing, in Godโ€™s way, and for Godโ€™s purposes.

See you on the other side!

God is Redeeming Church Bible & Theology Topics: death, Discipleship, dying, new life, resurrection, synchroblog

The Day I Met Jesus

By Jeremy Myers
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The Day I Met Jesus

The Day I Met JesusFrank Viola and Mary DeMuth have written a fascinating and insightful book about five women from the Gospels. The books is titled The Day I Met Jesus. If you enjoy seeing Jesus from a new perspective, gaining insights into Scripture, or have an interest in how Jesus interacted with women during His ministry, I highly recommend this book.

Here is an interview with Frank Viola & Mary DeMuthย aboutย The Day I Met Jesus.

Why did you write this book?

Frank: Back in 2007, I got an idea to create a new genre of Christian literature. I call that genre “biblical narrative.”

The new genre would contain autobiographical fiction closely based on the Scriptural narratives and faithful to first-century history. It would also contain a nonfiction section that practically applies the narratives to our lives. Finally, it would include a discussion guide so that readers could better digest and apply the content.

God’s Favorite Place on Earth (2013) was my first book in this genre. In it, Lazarus tells the story of when Jesus came to His hometown Bethany and all the amazing things that took place there.

The Day I Met Jesus (2015) is the second book in this genre. I wanted it to tell the story of five women whom Jesus encountered, allowing each woman tell their own story. I also wanted to draw out practical lessons and critical insights from each narrative.

Because I’m not a woman, I couldn’t do justice to the stories on my own, so I asked the top female Christian fiction writer of our time — Mary DeMuth — to coauthor it with me.

Mary: I wrote it because I love stories, and I felt that some of these encounters with Jesus didn’t get the air time they deserved. By doing careful research and weaving more of a story arc into the five women’s encounter, I hope to show people that the “characters” of the New Testament are actual, breathing people with stress and dysfunction and hopes just like us. Frank pioneered the idea of this book, so all credit goes to him for imagining it. I’m grateful he asked me to be a part.

Tell us the story of how you two came to coauthor it.

Mary: Frank wrote God’s Greatest Place on Earth and had long wanted to do something similar with five women of the New Testament. He approached me about writing the fiction side of The Day I Met Jesus after he found out I wrote fiction as well as nonfiction.

Frank: When I began to think about a female coauthor for the project, I wanted it to be someone who (1) writes fiction (2) is a remarkable writer, and (3) believes in the classic tenets of the Christian faith (Jesus is divine and human, He rose again from the dead, Jesus is Lord and Savior of the world, etc.)

As I investigated authors who fit the bill, I quickly thought of folks like Francine Rivers and Karen Kingsbury. But then I discovered that Mary DeMuth wrote fiction. I had known that she was a non-fiction writer, but had no idea that she could “switch hit.”

I also discovered that she was an outstanding writer of fiction as she was of nonfiction. (I regard Mary to be the Mickey Mantle of Christian literature — she has enormous power from both sides!) So Mary ended up being the only name on my “short list.”

You feature five women from the Gospels. Why pick women in particular as your subjects?

Frank: Some of the most gripping, instructive, inspiring stories in the Gospels involve women. The longest recorded conversation that Jesus ever had was with a woman. And some of the most amazing things He said and did related to women. So I thought that a book in which some of these women told their own stories about Jesus would not only bring the Gospels to life in our minds, but it would also bring Jesus alive in our hearts.

Mary: Women had significant, personal encounters with Jesus, a fact that we sometimes miss, particularly since so many stories revolve around the 12 disciples (who were men). I love that we’re elevating these stories, helping people reimagine just how radical it was that Jesus so beautifully interacted with these women.

Which one is your favorite and why?

Mary: For me, it’s hard to say. I love them all in different ways. This week, I’ll say it’s Mary of Bethany. She didn’t have a blatant “need” for Jesus. She was just downright faithful and often misunderstood. I think a lot of people can relate to that.

Frank: Mary of Bethany is my all-time favorite disciple of Jesus. This came home to me when I wrote God’s Favorite Place on Earth. (Mary was the sister of Lazarus, so she gets ample airtime in that book.)

I love Mary because she knew Jesus better than most, anticipating His reactions and even His impending death. She also paid the price for loving Him, for she was falsely accused by both her sister and the other disciples (on two different occasions), mostly out of jealousy. In both situations, Mary embraced the spirit of the Lamb, refusing to defend herself. But Jesus Himself rose to her defense on both occasions. He also gave her an enduring honor that He gave no one else.

Why would someone want to read the book?

Frank: If someone wants a good story to get tied up into . . . or if they want to see the Bible come to life in a compelling way . . . or if they want to experience Jesus Christ anew and afresh . . . or if they want to identify with people who were far worse off than they are, and see what Jesus did for them . . . or if they want to be given hope and encouragement in their situation . . . or if they are lacking love for the Lord and want that love to be rekindled . . . or if they want new motivation and fresh inspiration to follow Jesus more closely . . . or if they want to increase their faith and expectation in the Lord, they’ll want to read The Day I Met Jesus.

Mary: Someone would want to read it because it’s truly unique. It’s biblical narrative, but in short story form, but it doesn’t end there. After you’ve been absorbed into a page-turning story, Frank exegetes the wisdom from each encounter and helps you apply it to your life.The Day I Met Jesus

Tell us about the course that supplements the book.
Frank: The Day I Met Jesus Master Course is designed for those who wish to delve deeper into the themes set forth in the book. It includes a workbook and 20 audio messages delivered by Mary and I. In addition, it includes 8 bonus eBooks from Mary and I. It also includes a closed forum where people can access us both directly for Q&A and dialogue. People can check it out at http://www.thedayimetjesus.com/course

God is Redeeming Books Bible & Theology Topics: Books I'm Reading, Christian books, Frank Viola, women

Thanks for helping Rescue Girls from Sex Slavery

By Jeremy Myers
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Thanks for helping Rescue Girls from Sex Slavery

If you had lived back during the days of slavery, would you have helped slaves gain freedom?

If you answered “Yes!” then keep reading…

First, I want to thank those of you who donated to help me rescue girls from sex slavery.

I said I would cut off one inch of hair for every $100 dollars raised. I raised almost $600, but went ahead and cut off over 10 inches of hair anyway. I didn’t get enough to shave my head though!

Here are the Before and After shots:

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Hair of Jeremy Myers

That second shot was with my webcam, which obviously as terrible color….

Anyway, if you would have helped rescue slaves from slavery, you still can. There is more slavery today than at any other time of history, and most of these slaves are young girls. How much more dire could it get?

If you are somehow still not aware of the crazy epidemic of slavery in our world (and here in the United States!) RIGHT NOW, go see some of the stats on this page about Forced Prostitution.

And just think about this: Current estimates say that about 12 million Africans were shipped across the Atlantic for slavery from the 16th to the 19th centuries.

But according to Human Trafficking Statistics, there are CURRENTLY 12.3 million slaves RIGHT NOW. Yes, this year.

Human Trafficking

And many of them are children who are forced into prostitution. The average age is 12-14 years old. Most are girls. California has 3 of the 13 highest child sex trafficking areas. Some of them are raped 30-40 times EACH DAY.

Human Trafficking and child slavery is more common today than it was during the 300 years of slavery of our past.

There are more slavery victims this year than the total number of slaves during the entire 300 years of slavery in the past.

If you want to help, our favorite organization is the International Justice Mission.

To learn more about Human Trafficking and sex slavery, check out some of these posts:

Human Trafficking Posts

  1. Sex Slaves
  2. Would You Fight Slavery?
  3. Rescue Russian Sex Slaves
  4. Rescue Russian Girls from Sex Slavery
  5. Stop Her Nightmare
  6. Another Girl Rescued Today
  7. Girls for Sale
  8. Goal Reached!
  9. I Want to be a Prostitute
  10. $52,000 raised!
  11. 31 Million Sex Slaves
  12. Renting Lacy
  13. More Than Rice
  14. Human Trafficking Ring Busted
  15. The Other Big Game
  16. Sex Slavery, Planned Parenthood, and Your Tax Dollars
  17. How to Minister to Prostitutes
  18. Wisconsin Woman Held as Sex Slave in Brooklyn
  19. Coked-Up Whore
  20. Human Trafficking has Many Faces
  21. Into an India Brothel
  22. You Need a Girl?
  23. Human Trafficking Media
  24. The Son of God is Selling Children
  25. My Girls Raised $300 to help stop Human Trafficking
  26. Rape for Profit
  27. Human Trafficking Statistics
  28. Help Rescue Girls from Forced Prostitution

God is Redeeming Theology Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, human trafficking, prostitution, sex trafficking, slavery

How to Raise Children When Not “Attending” Church

By Jeremy Myers
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How to Raise Children When Not “Attending” Church

When parents seek to follow Jesus by being the church in their communities (rather than by simply attending church), one of the questions that often comes up is “What about our children? How will they learn about the Bible? How will they discover Jesus? How will they learn to worship God?”

First of all, here is what it DOES NOT look like. Ever. At least, not in any family I have ever seen:

parenting outside of the church

So how do we raise children if we don’t “attend church”?

I don’t have all the answers to these questions, but note, first of all, that the prevalence of such questions reveals how broken “church” has become. I mean, according to Scripture, it is the parent’s responsibility to raise up their children and teach them about God, but our modern way of doing church relinquishes these things to 45 minutes on Sunday morning and Wednesday night, in a building with a (generally) controlled environment, and to a person we don’t really know.

Isn’t that crazy?

How did we go from “Train up a child in the way he should go” (Prov 22:6) and “Teach these things to your children … ” (Deut 6:7; 11:19) to asking, “So what did you learn in Sunday school today?” on the drive home from church?

I sometimes think that the simple act of sitting in a pew on Sunday morning gives our children a terrible misconception about what it means to worship God and follow Jesus. The activity of “attending church” rather than being the church in our day-to-day lives can give the impression to our children that loving God and following Jesus is a “Sunday morning in the pew” activity, rather than a minute-by-minute awareness throughout the day.

Anyway, again, I don’t have all the answers … in fact, I don’t have ANY answers.

But here is my basic approach: We teach and train our children by loving them. Your children will not learn about God if you “go to church” but then treat them like crap the rest of the week.

Children learn to imitate what we do; not by what we say or what we tell them to do.

raise children outside the church

Remember that raising children to follow Jesus “outside the institutional church” is not at all the same thing as raising them to follow “outside the church.” If you are seeking to follow Jesus with your life, you are still raising your children within the church, and may be doing a better job of it than if you sat in a pew on Sunday morning and hoped that your children were learning something downstairs.

Over at the “All About Eve” blog which I am writing for, Eve asked these questions about parenting, and I proposed a bit of an answer. Here is an excerpt from what I said:

So while parenting might be the โ€œgoodโ€ you focus on right now, this does not mean you cannot get a job, write a book, care for the needy in your community, or do any of the other โ€œgoodโ€ things available for you to do right now. You might do any or all of them. But if you do, and if you have chosen to focus on loving your children, then these other things can be done in light of loving and training them. Take a job, for instance. You could show your children love through a part-time job by showing up for work on time, not bad-mouthing your boss or coworkers at home, and wisely using the money that you earn. This is just an example, but you probably get the point.

Go read Eve’s question here, and the rest of my response here.

Recently, I also heard a pretty good podcast about this. It was called “The Wild Ones.” You can listen to it here: The Wild Ones by Darrin Hufford.

Certainly, as we follow Jesus into the world, other people speak into the lives of our children, but raising and loving our children in the ways of God is not something we pass off to the youth pastor or the Sunday school teacher. It is a day-in and day-out way of living life before our children with Jesus by our side.

Do you have children? Are you seeking to teach them to follow Jesus outside of the “four walls” of institutional Christianity, and into a moment-by-moment relationship with God and others? If so, what ideas can you share? What challenges have you faced? What are your fears and how have you dealt with them?

God is Uncategorized Bible & Theology Topics: All About Eve, being the church, Discipleship, institutional church, parenting

Help Rescue Girls from Forced Prostitution

By Jeremy Myers
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Help Rescue Girls from Forced Prostitution

Rather than write a bunch of words about the dire problem of human trafficking and forced prostitution, I decided to just post some pictures and infographics. Sex slavery and forced child prostitution a bigger issue than most realize, and it is is huge problem right here in the United States. You most likely have human trafficking and child prostitutes right in your own town.

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Invite others to participate by using the sharing buttons below. Thanks!

To learn more about Human Trafficking and sex slavery, check out some of these posts:

Human Trafficking Posts

  1. Sex Slaves
  2. Would You Fight Slavery?
  3. Rescue Russian Sex Slaves
  4. Rescue Russian Girls from Sex Slavery
  5. Stop Her Nightmare
  6. Another Girl Rescued Today
  7. Girls for Sale
  8. Goal Reached!
  9. I Want to be a Prostitute
  10. $52,000 raised!
  11. 31 Million Sex Slaves
  12. Renting Lacy
  13. More Than Rice
  14. Human Trafficking Ring Busted
  15. The Other Big Game
  16. Sex Slavery, Planned Parenthood, and Your Tax Dollars
  17. How to Minister to Prostitutes
  18. Wisconsin Woman Held as Sex Slave in Brooklyn
  19. Coked-Up Whore
  20. Human Trafficking has Many Faces
  21. Into an India Brothel
  22. You Need a Girl?
  23. Human Trafficking Media
  24. The Son of God is Selling Children
  25. My Girls Raised $300 to help stop Human Trafficking
  26. Rape for Profit
  27. Human Trafficking Statistics
  28. Help Rescue Girls from Forced Prostitution

God is Redeeming Life Bible & Theology Topics: Discipleship, haircut, human trafficking, sex trafficking, slavery

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